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Gaijin 24 May 2015 07:15 PM
You can say that they are not rare and of course they are not vintage yet but when generally speaking Rolex prices continue to rise and NIB regular 16610s are selling here on this forum for $ 8,000 and GMT II Pepsis not NIB for $10,000 well you can call it hype but the bottom line the value is what the market will allow.

Whether we agree that they are rare or not the fact is there are people willing to pay a premium for them and someday if they want to sell them somebody else will pay them even more than they paid to get one.

bondtoys 24 May 2015 07:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by padi56 (Post 5768975)
.Giving the choice between a LV,or a Red Sub/ SD
If I understand you correctly, the Red Sub is pretty desirable to you.

Wheren't the Red Subs also produced over several years, so in larger numbers?

And the Red Sub is different to standard 1680 in which detail? 0,0001ml of red ink on the dial?

Keeping this in mind,in comparison the 16610LV is massively different to a standard 16610:
Green bezel insert, larger lume plots and a wider minute hand.

So imo the 16610LV has all what is needed to become a very desirable watch in the future - just like the red Subs/SD are now :cheers:

Gaijin 26 May 2015 09:48 AM
A NIB NOS 16610 non LV for sale here for $8,350. A NIB NOS Seadweller for $8,650. Are they rare? No. Are they discontinued. Yes. Will the prices continue to rise. For sure.

George Spring 27 May 2015 03:43 AM
i find this post very interesting and please do excuse my ignorance as im totaly clouless about rolex in general. i got all my limited knowledge here on trf and im being suck in everytime i read. anyway, in terms of rarity of LV which year is the one to get? the 2003?

Gaijin 27 May 2015 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by George Spring (Post 5867097)
i find this post very interesting and please do excuse my ignorance as im totaly clouless about rolex in general. i got all my limited knowledge here on trf and im being suck in everytime i read. anyway, in terms of rarity of LV which year is the one to get? the 2003?
Don't know if it is any more rare, just more desirable as it was the true 50th Anniversary Submariner. The Y or early Fs.

George Spring 27 May 2015 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaijin (Post 5868024)
Don't know if it is any more rare, just more desirable as it was the true 50th Anniversary Submariner. The Y or early Fs.
thank you gaijin! i was in nagoya otsu kanon last month with wife and i was very excited because of how strong the dollar to a yen this year, however the price aint much difference when it comes to buying luxury goods. i thought i can get the early F serial 16610lv to a better deal, not really.

Gaijin 27 May 2015 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by George Spring (Post 5868155)
thank you gaijin! i was in nagoya otsu kanon last month with wife and i was very excited because of how strong the dollar to a yen this year, however the price aint much difference when it comes to buying luxury goods. i thought i can get the early F serial 16610lv to a better deal, not really.
You are welcome George.

Yep. 123.5 Yen to the Dollar today.

shou.biao.kuang 18 July 2015 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaijin (Post 5861975)
You can say that they are not rare and of course they are not vintage yet but when generally speaking Rolex prices continue to rise and NIB regular 16610s are selling here on this forum for $ 8,000 and GMT II Pepsis not NIB for $10,000 well you can call it hype but the bottom line the value is what the market will allow.

Whether we agree that they are rare or not the fact is there are people willing to pay a premium for them and someday if they want to sell them somebody else will pay them even more than they paid to get one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaijin (Post 5865546)
A NIB NOS 16610 non LV for sale here for $8,350. A NIB NOS Seadweller for $8,650. Are they rare? No. Are they discontinued. Yes. Will the prices continue to rise. For sure.
I agree with Gaijin here his observation :smokin:

He separated nicely between rarity, desirability and market demand and hence the price..

shou.biao.kuang 18 July 2015 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bondtoys (Post 5861966)
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

This time the modification was modest - by my standards :clap:

I only took a 116710LN dial, got rid of the green GMT MASTER II wording and made it in white and put it into a 16710.

No case modification, no added naughtiness :chuckle::chuckle:
Subtle form of naughtiness??!! :rofl:

Just curious, why a 116710LN dial on a 16710? The over-printing of the green GMT Master II word? :lol:

bondtoys 18 July 2015 10:33 PM
Only one reason:

Maxidial!!
Larger lume plots than the standard 16710 dial! :thumbsup:

Smartpup2001 4 August 2015 01:39 PM
16610LV Flat4 question ??
 
Hi guys,

After saw these 2 pics posted on the website by the owner who claimed this is original sub 50th Y9 Serie flat4 bezel. But I wonder it isn't Mark I dial as it should. Is this possible for Rolex to put this dial on Y9 Serie?

Anyone please enlighten me.

Appreciated for your answers.

http://i.imgur.com/qMcb4gh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MI54plo.jpg

rollee1 4 August 2015 02:23 PM
This looks like a true Mark I dial to me. Its possible on Y serial, perhaps the transition months; Rolex don't confirm exact year of production.

shou.biao.kuang 4 August 2015 02:29 PM
Neat! 😊

shou.biao.kuang 4 August 2015 09:02 PM
16610LV Flat4 question ??
 
Hi,
Yes, Y serials 16610LV with MKII dials have been spotted on a few pieces. I've personally held one before with the MK II dial.

Though it's in the desirable Y serial range, the MKII is seen as somewhat "less" desirable compared to the MKI dial.

Just my 2-cents view ;-)

Smartpup2001 4 August 2015 10:40 PM
16610LV Flat4 Y Serie ...question
 
Hi guys,

I saw some pics of 16610LV Y Serie posted by the owner who claimed this is all original from Rolex factory. But I wonder it isn't Mark I dial as it should. Is this possible for Rolex put non Mark I dial on Y9 Serie?

Anyone please enlighten me.

Appreciated for your answers.

Smartpup2001 4 August 2015 11:06 PM
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strafer_kid 4 August 2015 11:21 PM
I passed on the opportunity to pick up a 16610lv Sub on a number of occasions through the years, as the insert just did not do it for me. Increasingly though I am being drawn more towards one......some very nice ones showing on this thread!

shou.biao.kuang 28 December 2015 02:48 AM
It is possible to have a MK II dial on a Y-serial..
 
though this will greatly reduce the desirability of the Y-serial. I have personally seen one and on record 4 of them in all.

Hope this helps. :smokin:

Sam

DJL-73 29 December 2015 03:09 AM
Interesting thread, I've owned my LV for 4 years now and until I read this I was unaware of all the different variations. After reading this and a little googling it would appear I have a MK VI dial (I think)

yannis 17 March 2016 04:10 AM
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Hey all! Nice thread! :cheers: Is this a MK VI dial guys?

stylinleems 17 March 2016 11:49 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...316_213220.jpg


I forget what the differences in the dials are. I read it once however, cannot find the post but my LV V-series above.

fleabag 13 December 2017 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang (Post 5672963)
I would agree with SubKing on this. The lime green Flat 4 are the rarest of all the 16610LV's inserts, followed by the "normal (dark) green" Flat 4 insert. Find either one of these, make sure you hold on tight to it! :thumbsup:


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...48176b2892.jpgHeres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



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fleabag 13 December 2017 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fleabag (Post 8104831)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...48176b2892.jpgHeres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7da03f1873.jpgHeres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



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PhilK 18 June 2019 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang (Post 5564272)
Hey folks,

A short update on this thread.

Since I last posted the MK VI dial as purportedly the last dial variant known of the 16610LV aka Submariner 50th anniversary model, I have received several photos and comments sent to my email on this dial variant. Recently, a forumer (let’s call him AJ since he specifically asked me not to mention his name) was kind enough to snap a few pictures of his precious find to lend a hand in identifying the MK VI dial found only on the “AN” series and as replacement dial thus far.

What is interesting about this piece is the ultra rare MK VI dial that is found on his “AN” series 16610LV, which IMHO as mentioned in the OP, is probably rarer than the MK I dial! What makes this piece even more interesting is the warranty card was dated December 2014, a good 3 – 4 years after production was discontinued!

Do note that the warranty card spots the new style Rolex warranty card where Rolex started issuing around one plus years ago. And this set came with it! Another rarity!!

According to AJ, he bought this piece from an AD in Singapore in December 2014 but the AD told him that they got this BNIB piece since late 2013 (!) and has been sitting in their store before he purchased it.

There you have it all…. In term of rarity, it’s a

1. “AN” series 16610LV,
2. Brand New In Box set,
3. MK VI dial variant
4. and lastly the new style Rolex warranty card !

Pictures will be uploaded in the next post. Stay tuned… :thumbsup:
Have just found this post..... I purchased my LV brand new in the UK in Dec 2010. It still has its seals intact and has a MK VI dial on a random serial number.

PhilK 18 June 2019 03:49 PM
MK VI Dial on 16610LV
 
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Originally Posted by PhilK (Post 9734637)
Have just found this post..... I purchased my LV brand new in the UK in Dec 2010. It still has its seals intact and has a MK VI dial on a random serial number.
I thought I had uploaded a photo but it failed. Photo now below.

switi 25 August 2019 10:38 PM
what dial is this on my LV https://i.imgur.com/xXNoYkG.jpg

Amex4711 25 August 2019 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by switi (Post 9927047)
what dial is this on my LV https://i.imgur.com/xXNoYkG.jpg
Are you really sure, that this is an original dial ? :thinking:
The "300m" looks strange.:thumbsdow

switi 26 August 2019 11:14 PM
yes it is an original. had my watch serviced at RSC. complete rolex markings at the back of the dial. maxi dial green lume.

garyk 27 August 2019 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by switi (Post 9929538)
yes it is an original. had my watch serviced at RSC. complete rolex markings at the back of the dial. maxi dial green lume.
The 300 m is definitely a little out there. Might be a one off?

switi 29 August 2019 12:12 AM
saw the same dial of a kermit being sold at ebay https://www.ebay.ph/itm/Rolex-Submar...gAAOSwR8pbv1oJ and this is definitely another variant
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/K5gAA...oJ/s-l1600.jpg


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