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smafla 30 August 2009 07:07 AM

Bezel Damage to DeepSea Sea-Dweller
 
Recently purchaesd a new DEEPSEA Sea-Dweller. Love the watch and have taken it diving several times. However, just noticed the bezel at the indicator is cracked. Dove this am but do not recall any bumps or scrapes. Has anyone had this problem?

sheldonsmith 30 August 2009 10:42 AM

gotta a pict?
 
Good heavens... a cracked bezel? Any chance you can post a pict? To answer your question.... yes, cracks at the bezel indicator are uncommon.

-Sheldon

Dr.B 30 August 2009 10:47 AM

Doesn't sound good.
Foto please.........

Harvey58 30 August 2009 10:51 AM

I would have it fixed before you go diving with it again!!!

greekbum 30 August 2009 10:53 AM

Go back to your AD and get it fixed.

Tools 30 August 2009 01:04 PM

If it is cracked all the way through, it is a simple matter for it to fall off as the tension fit is reduced....

smafla 3 September 2009 03:54 AM

Photo a cracked bezel
 
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Best pic I could take. Note crack at zero indicator.

Balboa 3 September 2009 06:33 AM

That is a little more than a crack. Looks like that was smacked into something.

Appears to be only the bezel insert and not the bezel. That can be easily replaced and is not too big a deal.

Mark

sushisummo 3 September 2009 07:14 AM

Ouch......

mateugbur 10 September 2009 12:05 PM

Maybe is shattered because of the new Ceramic insert Rolex is now using, though Ceramic is strong the bezel insert on the watch is very thin and fragile..

SLS 10 September 2009 11:58 PM

Hmm, I would have to think that you would remember smacking something for that to occur, I would contact the RSC and send it in. Sorry to hear that, let us know how this turns out.
Scott

wegeman76 15 September 2009 05:38 AM

how much to replace that?

SDDS 15 September 2009 05:42 AM

opps

onkyo 15 September 2009 06:09 AM

That hurts.... replacement cost anyone???

Dutchers 30 September 2009 10:17 AM

I lost my bezel in the subway in paris !!
Very strange, anyhow wonder what the replacement cost is too before I call the Rolex dealer !

sheldonsmith 30 September 2009 01:10 PM

Any chance of a picture?
 
Any chance of a picture????

I would be curious as to how much Rolex charges.. This seems to me to be under warranty, even if the warranty period expired...

-Sheldon

Dalton 2 October 2009 05:25 PM

I dive for sport and have cut myself without knowing it so I can see how you could smack your watch with either some coral, a wreck, or your equipment. It's easy for things to happen while diving. Does the Bezel have a mark or scratch near the cave in? If you do then you clearly smacked against something hard. If you dont then the insert was cracked by something sharp, and strong, something that applied more pressure than the insert could handle. The chances for that to happen are very low,but you Sir got it right in the bulls eye, with it being right on the Zero mark. Which brings up an interesting point. When you dove, did you set your Bezel or did you simply not use it? If you did not use and left it at the 12 o'clock position,then you clearly smacked it since that would be the point of impact if you were to swing your left arm out. If you used the bezel then the minute hand was either at the 12' o'clock position leaving it where it would need to be for the point of impact or I'm just thinking too much about it.

1000ftSub 8 October 2009 06:17 AM

O NO! I am really sorry that happened to your watch, if that happened to my DeepSea i would fall over crying:crying:

Brushpup 8 October 2009 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mateugbur (Post 1349572)
Maybe is shattered because of the new Ceramic insert Rolex is now using, though Ceramic is strong the bezel insert on the watch is very thin and fragile..

:thinking::thinking::thinking:

Ya think??? :dummy::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

2th Dr 8 October 2009 07:07 AM

Patrick, I'm starting to follow your posts! Yur cracking me up!:bartmoon:

Brushpup 8 October 2009 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2th DR (Post 1388401)
Patrick, I'm starting to follow your posts! Yur cracking me up!:bartmoon:

Well, I'm doing the same with yours...I guess that makes two more loons in this loony bin? :lol:

Every time I read your sig, I think...that SOB is crazy as I am! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Hell, at least we are in good company! :cheers:

hennabav 8 October 2009 07:24 AM

Hmm...I thought the new ceramics were very strong. Also, I didn't know the new deepseas still use bezel inserts. I thought it was something like the GMT II ceramics.

Cowboyland 8 October 2009 07:28 AM

Bezel
 
I don't know how deep you were diving but the most logical answer would seem the crystal over the lume dot may have imploded. I assume they test the water resistant ratings on the lume crystal, otherwise what would be the point of putting it on a 12,000 + depth rated watch. If that is what happened I am supprised at the actual damage. Good luck.

fujisan 10 October 2009 10:16 PM

Thats a decent crack. It has been smashed against a rock or something. I wouldn't be putting it near any water until getting it fixed.

franksremote 31 January 2010 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smafla (Post 1341748)
Best pic I could take. Note crack at zero indicator.

I did something similar to my TT Blue Sub when diving in Belize a number of years ago. After a dive, I noticed a "chip" on the insert at around the "5" mark. Thinking it just added character to the watch I left it alone and didn't think twice about it until my dive vacation was over (another 10 dives or so over 3-4 days) and while sitting on the plane, noticed that the chip/hole had grown so that the insert had a complete hole/gap from the 5-15 marks or so, like it (seawater) had eaten away more of the insert on the subsequent dive's.

Not knowing better I thought it was the complete bezel that needed replacement and expected to pay a pretty penny to replace it. Luckily, the watchmaker I brought it to said it was only the insert and replaced it for $45 or so (this was 10 or so years ago). I was so relieved that I didn't need to spend hundreds to replace the 18k bezel that it didn't even dawn on me the $45 was a little high, but MUCH cheaper than a complete bezel replacement.

Yours looks to be similar and I would think it isn't gonna cost as much as you think to get it back to 100%. Cool thing is, I got to keep the damaged insert and am fondly reminded of that dive trip every time I come across the envelope with the damaged insert in it. I never did remember what I did in the first place to cause the original chip...

Hope this helps alleviate the giant dollar signs dancing in your head. ;)

Nicko 31 January 2010 05:00 AM

This is why I don't think ceramic is such a good idea for a tool watch.

clew84 31 January 2010 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicko (Post 1612674)
This is why I don't think ceramic is such a good idea for a tool watch.

I would agree with this statement. If this watch, which I own, was really supposed to be used for rugged diving then the bezel insert would be metal and the bezel wouldn't turn so easily. I notice going through my low contact, normal day that the bezel gets turned a position or two.

Yes, you can go deep but I don't think you can go hard.

Uh, that came out wrong.

So did that. :banghead::bartmoon:

smallcandle 31 January 2010 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by clew84 (Post 1612713)
Yes, you can go deep but I don't think you can go hard.

Uh, that came out wrong.

:chuckle:

rickyslam 31 January 2010 05:50 AM

You think Rolex sometimes forget that people actually use these watches as a tool??

dmc 31 January 2010 06:18 AM

While we are discussing this, I would like to ask if a guy could replace the Ceramic Bezel with a steel one? Say from the earlier Sea Dweller.

I'm afraid that ceramic insert is going to be a bit pricey from an Ad.

I'm sure Steve Mulholland should have some info on this.

MitchSteel 31 January 2010 07:25 AM

Makes me wonder if these ceramic bezels could withstand sudden shock cooling.Like being cooled to subzero temps, then emersed into warm water.Not gonna try, but reasoning tells me that they wouldnt do so good.

Sub'erman 31 January 2010 07:58 AM

terrible pics!!!
Everyone's nightmare!!!
A replacement is very expensive!!! easy 5 - 6 hundred $ ( maybe more)

skillzlikewhoa 14 March 2011 03:58 AM

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Hi I am new to the Rolex forum I just bought my friends Rolex Deepsea and it has a similar problem. There is a crack on the left corner of white circle on the top of the bezel. It is not a big crack and i am more concerned for cosmetic reasons then any dive complications. Does any one know a estimate on a repair price and the time I will have to leave it to be fixed. Also can they just change that circle it is encased in metal or will i have to get a new bezel insert or something like that. I don't have a relationship with any particular AD but the guy i bought it from got it at tournou. I heard there very reputable but over priced. Any help on this matter would appreciated sorry for all the questions.

Tony-GB 14 March 2011 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dmc (Post 1612846)
While we are discussing this, I would like to ask if a guy could replace the Ceramic Bezel with a steel one? Say from the earlier Sea Dweller.

I'm afraid that ceramic insert is going to be a bit pricey from an Ad.

I'm sure Steve Mulholland should have some info on this.

The Deep Sea is a bigger watch than the old Seadweller, so I don't think the bezel inserts are interchangeable.

:cheers:

Tony-GB 14 March 2011 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by skillzlikewhoa (Post 2368068)
Hi I am new to the Rolex forum I just bought my friends Rolex Deepsea and it has a similar problem. There is a crack on the left corner of white circle on the top of the bezel. It is not a big crack and i am more concerned for cosmetic reasons then any dive complications. Does any one know a estimate on a repair price and the time I will have to leave it to be fixed. Also can they just change that circle it is encased in metal or will i have to get a new bezel insert or something like that. I don't have a relationship with any particular AD but the guy i bought it from got it at tournou. I heard there very reputable but over priced. Any help on this matter would appreciated sorry for all the questions.

Looks like the crystal is chipped as well. I betif you took that watch to RSC they would recommend changing that as well as the bezel.

skillzlikewhoa 14 March 2011 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony-GB (Post 2368151)
Looks like the crystal is chipped as well. I betif you took that watch to RSC they would recommend changing that as well as the bezel.

Not to sound like a noob buy what is RSC? I had the crystal checked it's a scratch not a chip but I would still like it fixed. Does any one know how much it would be to change out the crystal with installation.

DCgator 14 March 2011 05:24 AM

Sorry to hear about this. Yes, as some have suggested, take it back to the AD soonest. Pls let us know what the AD did or did not do to help resolve this issue. Isn't ther bezel insert made of ceramic that is supposed to a strong material used for that purpose?

Anyhoot, best of luck to ya!

Rogue884 14 March 2011 12:23 PM

Diving is a contact sport . . . :chuckle: . . . seriously, when you are gearing up, and when you are gearing down. Your slinging steel, nickel plated brass, and aluminum all over the place, and its easy to knock your wrist into something and not notice it, especially if your wearing your watch over a dry-suit or wetsuit. If your on a cattle boat with other divers, then you get a full on assault from the guy next to you, add if the boat is a rocking, ten fold.

That being said it is very easy to get your gear banged up and not notice it because your focused on so many things. Getting your gear together, getting in your gear, checking your budd's gear, sweating your but off, listening to the captain and divemaster, getting up, getting to the platform, getting your fins while the boat is a rockin, and then finally taking the giant stride. Thats just getting off the boat :chuckle: If you are the occassional vacation diver, its even more stressfull, because not your doing on a regular basis.

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Don't sweat the small stuff, get it fixed and move on, I know it sucks, BOHICA

petespendthrift 14 March 2011 08:48 PM

The problem with a big and thick watch (other than reduced comfort) is that they get bashed around and hooked up on equipment straps a lot more than a smaller one. This gives them a hard life. The raised luminous capsule in the ceramic inserts causes a weakness because it protrudes enough to get knocked and then transmits the entire force of the knock to a small area (that is already weakened by having a hole in it).

The other design flaws, like the bezel that turns too easily and also the very high cost and finally the obsolete nature of this type of diving equipment make it hard to accept that Rolex intend this new model to be an actual working diving watch.

BH13GMT 14 March 2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by skillzlikewhoa (Post 2368179)
Not to sound like a noob buy what is RSC? I had the crystal checked it's a scratch not a chip but I would still like it fixed. Does any one know how much it would be to change out the crystal with installation.

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