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Tools 21 January 2008 03:52 AM

The Rolex GMT-Master II (ceramic model)
 
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GMT-Master II Reference Numbers: 116710 (SS), 116713(TT), 116718(Gold)

Date of production: 2005 to present

Case Size: 40mm

Movement: 3186
(excerpt from Henk Hoving)
The cal.3186 has exactly the same features as seen on the previous cal.3185, so there is no quickset date feature added as some guessed. The main difference between these calibers is the more precise setting of the 12 positions for the 12-hourhand when switching to another timezone.

The 12 hourhand clicks into the 12 positions without any play, and very precise and smooth, as the fixed positions where the hand clicks into, were moved from the center of the movement into the driving train of the hands, this eliminates the play that the older caliber has.

This resulted into a slightly higher caliber, from 6.4mm to 6.8mm, which resulted into a slightly higher case for the new GMT Master II when compared to the older GMT Master II.

Also, in this new GMT Master is the new, own hairspring fitted, the "Parachrom Bleu". This new Rolex-patented hairspring is very easy to recognise as the spring has a very dark blue shiny color. It consists of an alloy made of Niob (most part), Hafnium and a very small ammount other metals not described. This blue color is created because the Niob oxidizes in contact with air and formes a protective layer this way.

In comparison to the regular hairsprings, this new one consists of only non-Ferro materials, and is as such completely unsensitive to magnetic fields. Another major advantage is that this new spring is much less sensitive to temperature-variations, the frequency does not vary due to differences in temperature, which results into one of the most accurate mechanical watches you can buy today...


Power Reserve:
Expected to be 48-50 hrs.

Photographs:
Attachment 106385

(Photos courtesy of Mike)
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f.../DSC00338x.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...1/bracelet.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...81/crystal.jpg

Links:

Rolex Site - GMT-Master II

Some Data on the all gold models which is identical to the SS models in function and fit.:

http://www.watchlinks.net/GMTmaster01.jpg
http://www.watchlinks.net/GMTmaster02.jpg
http://www.watchlinks.net/GMTmaster05.jpg
http://www.watchlinks.net/GMTmaster06.jpg
Attachment 119453

Latrodectus 3 January 2009 03:08 PM

Thank you Larry, I just love that watch:thumbsup:

nauticalmariner 4 January 2009 09:20 AM

Quick question, on the shot where the clasp of the bracelet is open, my GMT says EO6 instead of EO2 and no numbers under it like yours..any need to worry?
ES

CBG 4 January 2009 10:14 AM

Mine says PJ1, and no number underneath either.

hjhansolo 4 January 2009 11:28 PM

Mine says E010

nbs 5 January 2009 01:35 PM

Mine says E09

Big Tobacco 13 January 2009 05:12 AM

I have EO5 with 15/423 underneath it. I'd think it has naught to do with the watch, but the bracelet, as I believe these bracelets can be fitted on more than 1 model of the newer Rolex line.

hflee55 14 January 2009 01:37 PM

Excellent write up as always.

stusrt 3 April 2009 07:12 AM

i asked this elsewhere - but has there been any improvements to the GMT-IIC since it was released?
I was wondering for the 116713 if there is any difference in buying a Z, M, or waiting for a V from the AD?

thanks!

handdoc 5 April 2009 09:47 PM

those letters on the bracelet indicate when the bracelet was made...there is a chart on line if you google that info

jadento 8 April 2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Tobacco (Post 940521)
I have EO5 with 15/423 underneath it. I'd think it has naught to do with the watch, but the bracelet, as I believe these bracelets can be fitted on more than 1 model of the newer Rolex line.

Since were talking about the new Bracelet which, I LOVE! Does, anyone know if it will fit my 16710?
John

Alex49 5 May 2009 06:50 PM

Hi there

Can somone indicate how to adjust the length of the bracelet? I can't see this on the photograph. Can the lengt only be adjusted (besides the new 5mm special easy-link) by inserting or removing a whole link of the bracelet? This would be a rather rough method as this would result in big jumps of 10mm and which is too much at a time. Through this the bracelet would be either too long or too short. With the 16710 you could nicely adjust the braceletat at its clasp. The distances of the wholes were even different so that you could either remove a link or as an alternative make the bracelet by 2 wholes shorter (or longer). And the 2 methods resulted in a slight difference as 2 wholes were not the equivalent of 10mm but 9mm then 8mm and finally 6,5mm depending which combination of links vs. wholes you took. This made a very fine adjustment possible.

Back to the question: Can somone show a picture that shows that part of the bracelet resp. its closure?

Cheers Alex

NDT III 7 May 2009 01:14 PM

I don't have a photo but looking at the bracelet, all links appear to be the same size (10mm?) making it adjustable in 5mm increments using the aptly named and much appreciated "easy-link".

Mathemagician 7 May 2009 02:22 PM

The clasp does have three holes (dimples, really) for finer adjustment, in addition to the fantastically convenient easylink.

MikeJaye 8 May 2009 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mathemagician (Post 1153044)
The clasp does have three holes (dimples, really) for finer adjustment, in addition to the fantastically convenient easylink.

How easy is this to adjust if you don't have a spring bar tool?

Mike

Tools 8 May 2009 06:14 AM

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It's pretty easy with an eyglass screwdriver or something similar.

The springbar is compressed using the slot cut in the back of the spring-bar tube

This shot shows the three adjusting holes in the clasp
Attachment 67231

This shot shows the clasp flipped over to expose the slots for compressing the spring-bar
Attachment 67232

MikeJaye 8 May 2009 06:39 AM

Cheers...managed to sort it out with a sharp knife!!

browngo1 8 May 2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeJaye (Post 1154139)
Cheers...managed to sort it out with a sharp knife!!


:eek::concerned

Alex49 10 May 2009 05:25 AM

Thank you Tools

In the mean time I must admit that I decided to buy me the 116710. I must say that it is outstanding. The way how you can adjust the bracelet is much better than before with the 16710. The fact that you can reduce the bracelet at the 6 side to 4 remaining links is absolutely great too as you can now adjust the lenght in a way that the calsp is fully in the middle of your wrist, which was not the cas ebefore . . . And due to the fact that the backside of the watch is flatter with the 116710 th watch is much better on your arm than before.

I am most pleased.

Cheers Alex

He Man 14 May 2009 06:02 PM

excellent watch but I bit thicker than what I am used to.

Charley_Lima 21 May 2009 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exxondus (Post 1165312)
is it stated anywhere that the GMTiiC has the triplock as per the Subs?

I haven been able to find any info on that. It was also not mentioned in Rolex's 2009 catalogue that the crown has triplock :(

In the catalogue, they only mentioned the triplock for subs and the SDDS

According to the Rolex Web Site - the 116710 has Triplock and is water resistant to 100m.

sexner 30 June 2009 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yannis7777 (Post 930452)
I think water-resistance is 100 metres not 200 Steve.

Correct.:agree:

DRAWTOOL 11 July 2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedlock2000 (Post 925189)
... I think it should share the Subs water resistance, due to sharing the triplock crown and a similar case...

Yeah, Why does it not? :thinking:

Tools 11 July 2009 01:11 PM

The Trip-lock crown is not the only reason that the Sub can go to extreme depths... It also has a thicker case-back that will not compress and press against the movement under the extreme pressure at depth.

The other watches with a Triplock Crown:

Daytona
Sub
GMT IIc
Sea Dweller
Deep Sea
Yachtmaster
Yachtmaster II

bokmeipai 3 August 2009 01:13 AM

good info on a nice watch IMO the best of Rolex line.
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cousie 20 August 2009 12:37 AM

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...1/IMG_2199.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...1/IMG_2197.jpg

my first Rolex, this one started it all :)

BrianT 23 September 2009 01:43 AM

Good info

Joe750 29 January 2010 02:46 PM

Dumb question, but info I haven't been able to find - is the calendar on a GMT IIc perpatual (meaning it knows days with 30, 31, or 28 days? Always wondered. Rolex website doesn't say...

Tools 29 January 2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe750 (Post 1608952)
Dumb question, but info I haven't been able to find - is the calendar on a GMT IIc perpatual (meaning it knows days with 30, 31, or 28 days? Always wondered. Rolex website doesn't say...

No... Perpetual, for Rolex, means that the watch will run perpetually because it is self winding..

It has nothing to do with the calendar which must be changed during any month that does not have 31 days..

Joe750 1 February 2010 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools (Post 1609019)
No... Perpetual, for Rolex, means that the watch will run perpetually because it is self winding..

It has nothing to do with the calendar which must be changed during any month that does not have 31 days..

Wow, I didn't know that, thanks. I guess I always figured that a perpetual calendar would be standard on a Rolex, but I now I know.


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