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22 July 2024, 03:30 AM | #1 |
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How much value would a GMT Master 16750 lose with service dial, hands, and bezel?
I'm considering getting a GMT Master 16750 with a service dial, hands, and bezel insert. Most collectors would avoid such a watch but I'm planning to use it as a daily wear watch and not a safe queen or investment piece. I love the vintage appeal of an acrylic crystal but also want want the quick set date and higher beat rate I can get in a 16750. That's what makes me favor the 16750 over the 16700 (sapphire crystal) and the 1675 (super expensive, lower beat rate, etc.). It's kind of a perfect middle ground for me.
I know a 1675 would take a price beating with a service dial, hands, and bezel insert. I've read on this site as much as a 50% reduction. But I'm not sure about the transitional 16750. I wouldn't expect that model to be hurt so badly with service parts. Any thoughts would be appreciated. |
22 July 2024, 03:43 AM | #2 |
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It depends on the year of production. For instance, if it was a matte dial range, then obviously the difference would be greater (to be period correct) other than another. |
22 July 2024, 03:45 AM | #3 | |
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If there's too much a price beating I'll probably skip the 16750 and just get a 16710 instead. |
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Based on the condition whereas a low 1980's would sell for $13-17k, it could be worth $8-10K (in today's market). Take into consideration - again - condition, parts (bracelet), service history, etc. Too many variables. |
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Thanks. As long as the buying price is in the proper range for a GMT with service parts I don't mind going for it. I just want to make sure I'm not grossly overpaying. I also understand it would make it more difficult to sell as many collectors would not consider a watch like this at all, but so be it.
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If you want to share your purchase details (pictures, price or whatever), I am sure the forum will provide comments. |
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Now, if you're looking for a 16750 with service parts because of budget considerations, that's a different discussion. I'd assume you'd save at least $4k-$5K if that's the case. |
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In uk roughly for a loose orig. matte c £12k, later correct gloss c £9k and earlier matte with service gloss dial about £7k - so about c 40% loss for a pre 8.5 million matte era case with a gloss service dial and hands.
If with box and punched papers and associated trinketry add about 20% on a 16750 or a 760, about 15% on a 16710/700 and about 40% on a 1675 - 6542 full correct set adds about 50% or more if orig foil paper tags early red cosc seal, books etc , ….
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This has been helpful. Thanks.
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And what is my point? Personally, I prefer the gloss dial to the matte dial. I also prefer watches that look new compared to watches that are faded or age damaged. But I also prefer acrylic crystals to sapphire. So a 16750 with a service dial, hands, and bezel insert is right up my alley. I can pretty easily research the current price of an original 16750, but 16750's with a service dial, hands, and bezel insert are far less common and that's why I started the thread to begin with. The collective experience and knowledge of this board exceeds limited price research I can do for 16750 watches with a service dial, hands, and bezel insert. But thanks in part to the difficulty in valuing a 16750 with service dial, hands, and bezel insert, I've decided forgo the acrylic crystal and instead look for a 16710. |
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Another option would be to buy a 16750 in poor condition, and send it to the RSC.
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The problem with poor condition vintage watches is that the lugs and crown guards are often way overpolished. Once the metal is rounded off/gone there's not much a RSC can do to fix it.
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$12k - $12.5with original equipment $10k or so with service bits
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And while I'm not necessarily recommending it, cases can be refinished very nicely these days. But if you want to buy the watch you found, just buy it. You don't need to justify your choice to us.
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The price hit doesn't matter so much as the buyer pool hit.
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