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Old 4 October 2024, 04:44 AM   #811
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Good idea, but not sure about the execution.
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Old 4 October 2024, 05:53 AM   #812
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Good idea, but not sure about the execution.
I'm a fan. Eager to see it in person! (Not buying one... $23k is too much... But still want to see it )
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Old 4 October 2024, 05:57 AM   #813
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I'm a fan. Eager to see it in person! (Not buying one... $23k is too much... But still want to see it )
I guess I don't get the retrograde execution. If it's a seconds retrograde, might as well make it 60 seconds.
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Old 4 October 2024, 06:22 AM   #814
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Interesting twist, kinda mesmerizing i bet.
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Old 4 October 2024, 11:11 AM   #815
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I guess I don't get the retrograde execution. If it's a seconds retrograde, might as well make it 60 seconds.
Twice the fun in the same amount of time seems alright to me haha.
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Old 4 October 2024, 09:42 PM   #816
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Interesting twist, kinda mesmerizing i bet.
Agreed, like the tourbillon in that sense.

Not loving it in pictures but I bet that may change when I can try one on.
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Old 5 October 2024, 01:00 AM   #817
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I like it a lot and just excitedly looked to see if it was in the 40mm case but alas it's the 43mm one. Still going to try to see in person but typically not the size for me.
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Old 5 October 2024, 02:38 AM   #818
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Agreed, like the tourbillon in that sense.

Not loving it in pictures but I bet that may change when I can try one on.
Am sure we can all agree the movement looks exquisite. Video of it in action. Looks like fun to me


Plus i like the 'smile'. H. Moser should produce a version where the seconds 'smile / lips' are part of a Fun Face (clown eyes, etc) on the mid-upper dial. The seconds hand could be a tongue... and spinning clown nose as the 30-second jump bit.

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Old 5 October 2024, 02:39 AM   #819
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As another aside, Mosers need more bracelets on their models.
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Old 5 October 2024, 10:24 AM   #820
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As another aside, Mosers need more bracelets on their models.
For the price they charge, those bracelets are a bit embarrassing. At least they are comfortable.
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Old 5 October 2024, 11:45 PM   #821
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I love Moser, but the retrograde seconds breaks up the dial too much for me.
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Old 6 October 2024, 02:18 AM   #822
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For the price they charge, those bracelets are a bit embarrassing. At least they are comfortable.

Embarrassing in what way? The bracelet offered on the Pioneer is made by a company that makes them for other companies as well, and they’re built like a tank. The bracelet on the Streamliner is one of the best bracelets on the market. I could see people not liking it aesthetically and perhaps not liking that it does not have micro adjust, but it is extremely well made, supple, comfortable, and well-finished.


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Old 6 October 2024, 04:33 AM   #823
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...they’re built like a tank. The bracelet on the Streamliner is one of the best bracelets on the market. I could see people not liking it aesthetically and perhaps not liking that it does not have micro adjust, but it is extremely well made, supple, comfortable, and well-finished.
Tried one on once... and very much looking forward for the Purple Haze to be my daily. Once it arrives I'll gladly compare it to various others. Have read it is better than the PP Naut. There is quite a bit to the H. Moser Streamliner bracelet, am sure you've seen it in person... so yeah it could be a style choice.

First time i saw the rg Vanta dial Tourbillon my jaw dropped. Imho you really need to see the 3D proportions and light-play with your own eyes. And try it on of course.

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Old 7 October 2024, 02:52 AM   #824
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Embarrassing in what way? The bracelet offered on the Pioneer is made by a company that makes them for other companies as well, and they’re built like a tank. The bracelet on the Streamliner is one of the best bracelets on the market. I could see people not liking it aesthetically and perhaps not liking that it does not have micro adjust, but it is extremely well made, supple, comfortable, and well-finished.


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Indeed but it is quite literally just a piece of rubber.
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Old 7 October 2024, 10:42 AM   #825
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Indeed but it is quite literally just a piece of rubber.

Ah so you are referring to their rubber strap with pin buckle, not the metal bracelets that they offer. I will concede that their rubber straps are, as you say, “quite literally just a piece of rubber”, however it is an extremely supple piece of rubber and I really like the robust pin buckle that is offered on it. Many prefer deployant clasps, however I usually prefer a pin buckle as it lies much flatter and is much less bulky.


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Old 8 October 2024, 04:37 AM   #826
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Ah so you are referring to their rubber strap with pin buckle, not the metal bracelets that they offer. I will concede that their rubber straps are, as you say, “quite literally just a piece of rubber”, however it is an extremely supple piece of rubber and I really like the robust pin buckle that is offered on it. Many prefer deployant clasps, however I usually prefer a pin buckle as it lies much flatter and is much less bulky.


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Oh, so by "bracelet" he meant rubber strap?

I thought Moser bracelets on the Pioneer are made by Brogioli, who makes the same style to IWC, GO, and Lange, among others.
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Those dials look really good. Very strange that on the Pioneer Centre Seconds 40mm they went with the now old HMC 200 instead of the updated movement. Why would they do that? Perhaps the plans for these were already established before the release of the updated movement? Even if that were the case, it seems they should have updated the plans to include the updated movement.


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Those dials look really good. Very strange that on the Pioneer Centre Seconds 40mm they went with the now old HMC 200 instead of the updated movement. Why would they do that? Perhaps the plans for these were already established before the release of the updated movement? Even if that were the case, it seems they should have updated the plans to include the updated movement.


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I thought the same. They didn’t backwards price to 14,300 lol. It looks like the enamel dials of some of the endeavors but they mustn’t be given their pricing. I’d like to see the color tone IRL to really pass judgement. The rubber is a military green it appears which may be cool.
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I thought the same. They didn’t backwards price to 14,300 lol. It looks like the enamel dials of some of the endeavors but they mustn’t be given their pricing. I’d like to see the color tone IRL to really pass judgement. The rubber is a military green it appears which may be cool.

I didn’t even catch the military green rubber straps. Good eye. To me these look great. I’ll take the minute repeater piece unique please!


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agree, the old HMC 200 sems out of place..... which is interesting when you figure how new it really is.
Must be a great new HMC 201 movement to cause such a fuss. My blue Heritage has the 200 and it looks more appropriate on that timepiece imho.
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Can Moser please please stop releasing the one new limited edition/dial color after the other and focus on finishing and value retention instead. I have already sold my streamliner chrono and the way it’s going my endeavour perpetual is on it’s way out too.
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