Which Complicated Patek reigns supreme?

[Chief Chininki]

I currently have a 5270R, and thinking of moving a stainless steel nautilus, either 5712 or 5726. Would you trade a stainless Nautilus for a 5740, or would you trade for a 5204 or a 5970.

The 5204 is a bad ass and may have better proportions dial size than the 5270, however the case is thick… the 5970 is the best proportioned dial and case. Can either of these live with a 5270? Or am I better off getting the king of the nautilus?

[ts3]

If you got a 5970P the 5270R will become surplus. The same is true for both 5726 and 5712 if you got a 5740 IMO (and I like 5712/1A). Hard to beat 5970P and 5740/1G for a two watch collection.

If split second I'd rather get a 5004 or 5370 than a 5204 as I don't like the mini chin and the inverted moon phase.

[bp1000]

Trouble is how far up the chain do you want to go.

5208 or higher.

For the watches you see here posted,
It’s got to be the 5204 or maybe 5270.
Or the inline PC

5204 is just nuts. I love it. 5004 is loved but the proportions are a little odd.

5970 is always referred to as the best and having tried on a 5970r recently, like 2 weeks ago, having just dropped my 5270 in for service and also trying on a 3970 at the same time, I got to consider all three.

5970 is the sweet spot I admit that but I can say confidently you are not missing out owning any of them.

Each has their charm, 5270 has very interesting flared lugs and a modern vision. 5970, balance, 3970 classic charm.

I may own a 5970 at some point, price dependent but I will definitely own and I’m actively looking for a 3970. It’s got so much classic charm about it.

[Russell996]

If you are considering used then the 5370P is a huge bargain currently. Entry into Patek's high grand comps department starts with this piece, finishing is next level.

[77T]

The 5370P is sublime, and as a Daytona lover its movement is alluring, but for the price (despite being a depreciating asset), I'd prefer a more practical grand complication.

It's one thing to time steaks with a chrono (referring to another current thread on how people use Daytona) but for a quarter-million, I'd prefer a perpetual calendar myself.


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[GB-man]

If you’re keeping the 5270 I would go 5740. Quite the pairing. Otherwise I do indeed prefer the 5970. 5370 is simply gorgeous if you favor a split.

[Chief Chininki]

Originally Posted by ts3

If you got a 5970P the 5270R will become surplus. The same is true for both 5726 and 5712 if you got a 5740 IMO (and I like 5712/1A). Hard to beat 5970P and 5740/1G for a two watch collection.

If split second I'd rather get a 5004 or 5370 than a 5204 as I don't like the mini chin and the inverted moon phase.

As sh!t, I never noticed the chin until now, lol!… thanks for pointing that out… that may put it off my radar!

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Chief Chininki

I currently have a 5270R, and thinking of moving a stainless steel nautilus, either 5712 or 5726. Would you trade a stainless Nautilus for a 5740, or would you trade for a 5204 or a 5970.

The 5204 is a bad ass and may have better proportions dial size than the 5270, however the case is thick… the 5970 is the best proportioned dial and case. Can either of these live with a 5270? Or am I better off getting the king of the nautilus?

I have tremendous appreciation for the 240 movement PC
Combined with the ultra thin nautilus is hard to beat.
5204 is special, would be hard to let that go.

Not sure 5270 is a keeper for me with the modern off center subdials.

5970 is a beauty to look at but not sure it would see a lot of wrist time.

In the end, wrist time is the best indicator for me if a watch gets traded or not. My own collection has experienced the effects of this over and over.

[vitalsigns]

If I didn't mind the big price difference between the 5270 and 5970, then given your mix of considerations, I'd make my end goal:

5970
5712

I think both are legends and represent the best of what Patek does.

[subtona]

Ps reread .. short answer that 5726 would be gone in a flash toward the 5740!

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by 77T

The 5370P is sublime, and as a Daytona lover its movement is alluring, but for the price (despite being a depreciating asset), I'd prefer a more practical grand complication.

It's one thing to time steaks with a chrono (referring to another current thread on how people use Daytona) but for a quarter-million, I'd prefer a perpetual calendar myself.


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I guess if you don’t know the year or month the perpetual is much more practical.

[LJubel328]

Originally Posted by Russell996

If you are considering used then the 5370P is a huge bargain currently. Entry into Patek's high grand comps department starts with this piece, finishing is next level.

I second this


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[Ichiran]

The 5316 reigns supreme.

[Daytonaman799]

5740…been trying to trade my 5712 and 5726 for a 5740 but I wanted to do it even up and had no luck. I would def upgrade the nautilus to a PC and I had a 5970 but it saw almost no wrist time. Depends on your taste and lifestyle but I think in the more casual world the 5740 has the potential to be a daily and 5270/5970 for those one off times.

[benzng]

Originally Posted by ts3

If you got a 5970P the 5270R will become surplus. The same is true for both 5726 and 5712 if you got a 5740 IMO (and I like 5712/1A). Hard to beat 5970P and 5740/1G for a two watch collection.

If split second I'd rather get a 5004 or 5370 than a 5204 as I don't like the mini chin and the inverted moon phase.

this is my sentiments as well