PCC vs. ACC redundancy?

[Armis]

To set the stage, I’ve recently come to appreciate that the perpetual calendar chronograph is a combination of complications that represents Patek and its mastery. As such, a PCC represents a grail or milestone in a Patek collection. Given this point, if one i.e. me has an annual calendar chronograph, then do you consider it to be redundant to get a PCC (or vice versa)?

To be more specific, I have the 5905a on bracelet, which I like very much for the ACC complication and beautiful green dial. But I recently tried the 5270p w/ green dial and fell in love, including the green dial. However, the question of redundancy came to mind, even though I appreciate the differences.
Do any of you have both an ACC and PCC? Even if not, what do you think about the question of redundancy?
Thank you.

[APhound]

I think they’re different enough for sure.
You’ll be really happy with the 5270! It’s very special


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Armis]

Originally Posted by APhound

I think they’re different enough for sure.
You’ll be really happy with the 5270! It’s very special


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank you. I’ve been reading through your and others’ older posts about the 5270 and find them very encouraging.

[Pw92676]

I think they can coexist well in general and specially to you given your combination Will have both bracelet and strap. The 5905 can be more a daily wearer and 5270 more of a special piece

[77T]

I only have a 5119.

But on your question though - I would say an answer might be to buy the 5270 now.

Take the next few months to decide if the redundancy makes any difference.

Then, if so, sell the 5905.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[codecow]

They are a bit redundant in terms of the complication. A major consideration is the manual wind PCC versus automatic, that’s a really big difference and if you care about the calendar complication at all it could be annoying if you need to bump it forwards constantly if you’re wearing the watch in a large rotation.

[jon_jon]

You can have both an ACC and a PCC in a collection. It really depends on your collection size and what you like.

The 5905 is a bit thicker than the 5270 due to the automatic chrono movement. So although I have owned the 5270 for quite a while, I have not really been attracted to the 5960/5905. However if you enjoy wearing the 5905, you can still keep it in your collection after you purchase the 5270.

[Partekular]

I decided to buy a 5172G and its matching lug brother the 5320G to have both mechanisms but in two watches. I prefer a manual winding chronograph and I really like the seeing simplicity of the uncluttered cream dial of the 5320G.

The advantage is two different functioning mechanisms, styles and colours with the disadvantage of two watches to service.

[subtona]

Both fantastic watches and visually very different.

Will you wear them both regularly?

Will you find setting them tedious after time?

Is it important to you for the calendar functions to be set accurately if you are throwing the watch on for a night?

The 5270 has a manual movement so a winder is not an option.


I have learned that as much as I appreciate the beauty of a manual wind movement, I favor the practicality of automatic winding. the micro rotor 240 movement in my 5940 strikes a nice balance.


The 5270 is classic Patek and stands above.

[Jb1264]

I would go for the 5270 and move on the 5905a

As others have posted the 5270 really is next level, which currently is beyond my means

However when my dependents are less reliant on me, if moving on some other pieces would make it happen, I would do it and not look back

[Armis]

Originally Posted by Pw92676

I think they can coexist well in general and specially to you given your combination Will have both bracelet and strap. The 5905 can be more a daily wearer and 5270 more of a special piece

That’s how I was considering wearing each one. The other thing I was considering was moving the 5905a along, but I do honestly like it a lot.

[Armis]

Originally Posted by 77T

I only have a 5119.

But on your question though - I would say an answer might be to buy the 5270 now.

Take the next few months to decide if the redundancy makes any difference.

Then, if so, sell the 5905.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Bingo! This makes great sense instead of trying to decide up front. Thanks.

Originally Posted by codecow

They are a bit redundant in terms of the complication. A major consideration is the manual wind PCC versus automatic, that’s a really big difference and if you care about the calendar complication at all it could be annoying if you need to bump it forwards constantly if you’re wearing the watch in a large rotation.

Great points. I didn’t account for the big movement difference. The advantage goes to 5270. But you’re also right about the frustration of setting

[Armis]

Originally Posted by Jb1264

I would go for the 5270 and move on the 5905a

As others have posted the 5270 really is next level, which currently is beyond my means

However when my dependents are less reliant on me, if moving on some other pieces would make it happen, I would do it and not look back

I agree, Jb. I just thought of that option yesterday, and now a number of you have advised that. And actually, this is all part of a consolidation effort where I’m trading in a bunch of other pieces.

Originally Posted by subtona

Both fantastic watches and visually very different.

Will you wear them both regularly?

Will you find setting them tedious after time?

Is it important to you for the calendar functions to be set accurately if you are throwing the watch on for a night?

The 5270 has a manual movement so a winder is not an option.
I have learned that as much as I appreciate the beauty of a manual wind movement, I favor the practicality of automatic winding. the micro rotor 240 movement in my 5940 strikes a nice balance. i have
The 5270 is classic Patek and stands above.

All the right questions and considerations. It is important that setting is correct, but this takes consistent wearing or manual setting *sigh*. So I would have to step it up. Thank you.

[codecow]

Originally Posted by Armis

Bingo! This makes great sense instead of trying to decide up front. Thanks.




Great points. I didn’t account for the big movement difference. The advantage goes to 5270. But you’re also right about the frustration of setting

It’s an easy solve for me, I’d never set the calendar unless I was going to be wearing it for an extended period of time where I’d keep it wound.

My new Speedmaster I missed winding it by 2h this week but that’s an easy recovery, just want to avoid the stylus.

[bp1000]

I have both and if you were buying just one watch to wear everyday then yes, the AC is redundant.

But I think all of us here buy because we collect, are possibly obsessive and want to own a bunch of nice and interesting watches. So we can respect the case differences, dial design, aperture layouts and movements powering them and enjoy a different watch each day.