Code 11.59 15210ST/26393ST worth it?

[messikens]

Hey folks,

Trying to determine my asks for next year and looking for some insight.

I've been advised that it may be helpful to potentially add a Code to my collection (between my wife and I we currently have 4 AP).

I've looked at the codes a few times in person and while I like the details, I am not sure I can totally buy into the value prop. It's not a dress watch really (too thick), it's not a sports watch (water resistance). No quick change straps and seemingly not great choices.

The three-hander is a bit bland IMO. Plus if I wanted to have a round steel sports watch, I already own an FXD and a vintage Rolex 16710.

Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind owning a green code Chrono but at $~35k for a 26393 I may as well be getting a new grey 126500 Daytona WITH a bracelet as the arguably most iconic watch for all occasions....


Your thoughts?


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[schwartz914]

All depends what you are after. Adding the code gets you a grail piece or something you want from AP?

[messikens]

Originally Posted by schwartz914

All depends what you are after. Adding the code gets you a grail piece or something you want from AP?

I'm looking to add a 16202 to my collection so it'll probably get me closer / there. Still quite a ways away from a CE I think...

However, just not sure I can make the mental hurdle jump in getting something that's like a bit of a weird in-betweener...

[fsprow]

Originally Posted by messikens

I'm looking to add a 16202 to my collection so it'll probably get me closer / there. Still quite a ways away from a CE I think...

However, just not sure I can make the mental hurdle jump in getting something that's like a bit of a weird in-betweener...

Just bought a mint 2023 16202 from a reseller for $65,000. So you might want to consider buying preowned rather than purchasing something you may not be in love with.

[Audevache]

I have the steel chrono in blue and love it. Wouldn’t trade it for a Daytona ever (just look at the movement…).

I personally find the 3 hander a bit boring as well, though the guillochage dial makes it significantly more interesting than the previous laquered dials.

That said I’d never buy a watch I don’t really love so probably you shouldn’t either.

[APhound]

Don’t buy it thinking you need to. That’s BS. You’re already a good customer.
Only buy it if you love it. The code was my 6th ap after 3 royal oaks and 2 offshores- didn’t help me get anything.
I love the watch
!


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[PP&AP]

I really like the beige 3 hander - ceramic case is interesting and the smoke adds something extra to the dial. It’s very comfortable, gets more wear than my Daytona. IMG_2968.jpeg

[ButtButt]

Originally Posted by PP&AP

I really like the beige 3 hander - ceramic case is interesting and the smoke adds something extra to the dial. It’s very comfortable, gets more wear than my Daytona. Attachment 1409855

This watch is seriously growing on me.

[TopherMins]

I have two and if I had to go down to one, I would keep the three hander. It’s very unique and different from everything else out there. I will always have one in my collection.


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[PAP13]

I love mine… but buy only if you really want it.
It’s a perfect everyday watch. Not a sport model.


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[~JJ]

Personally love the new SS codes. I have divers for swimming and I’m pretty good with a strap changing tool so your cons don’t really apply to me. Case, dial, and crystal design on these codes are bringing a fresh change to AP when you have a bunch of keyboard warriors saying the brand has become a one trick pony without actually paying attention to complications, crazy world these days.

[samarth1]

I picked up my Code Steel and Ceramic Chronograph 10 days ago and I'm absolutely in love with it. I highly recommend it, the new dials is beautiful and the steel and ceramic specifically to me wears so comfortably. This is a high end, haute horology chronograph and it shows. This is my 3rd AP, FWIW.

[Michael1968]

Definitely very good looking watch

[Audevache]

Here’s a pic from my Bleu Nuit chrono. But honestly pics never capture the essence of this watch.

[messikens]

Darn it - this is definitely not working out the way I had expected it to LOL...

You guys are enablers par excellence... That said keep 'em coming, starting to love the pictures

[Reign]

Just buy the jumbo grey - prices have come down a lot. Why buy another watch in the hopes of getting what you want when you can just buy what you want grey.

Prices have materially come down so folks need to think about this option as it’s financially viable again.

If the “journey” is important to you and you like the code, then by all means, get a code and continue your journey towards a jumbo

Ps here are some enabling pics if that’s helpful










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[messikens]

Originally Posted by Reign

Just buy the jumbo grey - prices have come down a lot. Why buy another watch in the hopes of getting what you want when you can just buy what you want grey.

Prices have materially come down so folks need to think about this option as it’s financially viable again.

If the “journey” is important to you and you like the code, then by all means, get a code and continue your journey towards a jumbo

Ps here are some enabling pics if that’s helpful










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Thank you - you're definitely enabling. Congrats on the Starwheel, it really is something else!


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[TheHolyLuck]

Same here. My next watch for sure

[anonymousnathan]

Would the 26393ST in blue be available to first time buyers? Not sure how long the waiting list would be for the 15210ST or 26393ST.

[Audevache]

Originally Posted by anonymousnathan

Would the 26393ST in blue be available to first time buyers? Not sure how long the waiting list would be for the 15210ST or 26393ST.

Both are doable for first time buyers. I'd expect some months of wait but nothing too long.

[PattayaHammerTime]

picked up mine last year, gets a lot of wrist time... pretty much my daily

[Patekfinder]

Being told to spend $35,000 on a watch you don’t want, just to have the opportunity to buy another watch that is $35,000, is insane. I refused to do it with AP when they played that game with me two years ago. The SA from AP Bal Harbor called me and offered a code. The one he wanted me to buy was something like $42,000. Told me it would also “help.” I literally burst out in laughter, as this was particularly right after the massive marketing flop of this joke watch. I asked him if he would spend $42,000 from his own personal funds on of all things anCODE “11:59”. He also laughed and tried to dance around the topic. I said no no no Harold you be honest with me. He said of course not. Told him I’d buy one when he bought one and we could have matching codes, until then, no code. We had a good laugh over this watch. Can’t believe people ACTUALLY buy it.

There’s a sucker born every minute, that the phrase?

The fact that a watch is forced on you is a real turn off. It’s like a woman who is totally into you- makes me think she’s low value and I don’t want her. I want the ones who are a challenge.


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[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by Patekfinder

Being told to spend $35,000 on a watch you don’t want, just to have the opportunity to buy another watch that is $35,000, is insane. I refused to do it with AP when they played that game with me two years ago. The SA from AP Bal Harbor called me and offered a code. The one he wanted me to buy was something like $42,000. Told me it would also “help.” I literally burst out in laughter, as this was particularly right after the massive marketing flop of this joke watch. I asked him if he would spend $42,000 from his own personal funds on of all things anCODE “11:59”. He also laughed and tried to dance around the topic. I said no no no Harold you be honest with me. He said of course not. Told him I’d buy one when he bought one and we could have matching codes, until then, no code. We had a good laugh over this watch. Can’t believe people ACTUALLY buy it.

There’s a sucker born every minute, that the phrase?

The fact that a watch is forced on you is a real turn off. It’s like a woman who is totally into you- makes me think she’s low value and I don’t want her. I want the ones who are a challenge.


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Totally understand your point, but how does that differ from any Patek or Rolex AD?

[Gent675]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Totally understand your point, but how does that differ from any Patek or Rolex AD?

Difference is with those you are dealing with ADs. That is their business model and I can’t fault them for leveraging their hot brands to move stock on bricks.

It is worse with AP as you are now dealing with the brand directly and they are playing these AD games. They are essentially saying their code collection is trash when they push it on clients.

[ChipWong]

Code fanboys cant handle the truth

[Audevache]

Originally Posted by ChipWong

Code fanboys cant handle the truth

And what truth would that be?

[Octagon Guy]

Originally Posted by ChipWong

Code fanboys cant handle the truth

Probably the group of so called "Code Fanboys" as you labelled them as such, are real fans of the CODE lineup? Probably not everyone who's into AP is a fan of the RO. Me, for one, is drawn to AP recently cos of the CODE, not the initial batch of release though. Starts to catch my attention from the 2nd Gen, the smoked dial. But was never as big a fan of the RO though.

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by Gent675

Difference is with those you are dealing with ADs. That is their business model and I can’t fault them for leveraging their hot brands to move stock on bricks.

It is worse with AP as you are now dealing with the brand directly and they are playing these AD games. They are essentially saying their code collection is trash when they push it on clients.

I see your point, but the end experience for the buyer is still the same? The biggest difference I think is that even if they pushed a Code or ROO as your first piece, an RO is very realistic as the second. That being said, an RO as your first is very realistic as well. With PP, getting a Nautilus or Aquanaut as your first piece is almost unheard of. I'm sure it's happened as nothing is impossible, but HIGHLY unlikely. Highly unlikely even as your 2nd or 3rd. It's the same experience if you have to buy things you don't want whether it's from and AD or boutique. One could reasonably argue that you have to spend much more $ at a PP AD to get a Nautilus than an RO at a boutique. Just my opinion.

[Patekfinder]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Totally understand your point, but how does that differ from any Patek or Rolex AD?

Patek and Rolex both have a deep catalogue of attractive watches to sell you that are relatively easy to obtain to demonstrate your “worthiness” to the relationship before gaining access to the most sought after pieces. AP doesn’t have jack to offer someone except the Code. Thats the difference.


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[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Patekfinder

Patek and Rolex both have a deep catalogue of attractive watches to sell you that are relatively easy to obtain to demonstrate your “worthiness” to the relationship before gaining access to the most sought after pieces.

You mean diamond bezeled 31mm two-tone datejusts?