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has anyone ever seen this day date reference, 18118? need advice...
I am new to this forum, but have been collecting for about 15 years. I just picked up this Day Date, and really like it, but now some of my expert friends tell me it is fake. The reference number is 18118, and the serial is 6,3xx,xxx, placing it around 1980. Except for the unusual bezel, it looks like a nice vintage Pres, and looks real to me.
Any ideas? Need advice... Thanks, sapphire65 |
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It looks okay to me, but I am not an expert on the presidents.
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Are you sure you got the #'s right?
Have you popped the strap and checked the ref. #? |
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A quick search for that #............nothing........I would take to watchmaker
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yes, I have taken the leather strap off. the reference is 18118.
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Are you sure? Lets not rush to judgement. I think this "may" a good one. Possibly rare. I saw one 6 months or so ago and thought it was straight up. I checked with some friends (one on this board) and all said "Fake". I passed on it. I have kicking myself ever since, as it really looked correct. It had a funky bezel. I will see if I still have pics on my hard drive. Can we see pics? Jeff |
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Hey Jeff, Are you saying this is a legit ref #? If it is, it must be extremly rare. I must say though the watch looks good in the pictures. |
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Took my computer a while to load....
I just saw the pics above. This looks like the one I saw a few months back. I remember looking on line for days and could not find anything but it really looked good. Anyone? Jeff |
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I think all on this thread believe this to be a nice looking watch, we are only questioning the reference number?
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Looks real, but the reference # ?
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As others noted, there is no such reference number, if that is the reference number. While it might look genuine, and have some genuine parts, that does not make the watch genuine, if there is no reference number for this particular watch shown here.
Maybe it's a one-off for the King of Jordon. Be careful on your posts here! I'm bidding.
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As I have often mentioned....Rolex knowledge is not a finite thing. Research is indeed, a meandering and ongoing and ever changing thing. You will note that in all of my writings for magazines and "The book", I rarely say "Rolex never" and "this does not exist" and rarely, unless the most blatant of fakes "this is a fake". One of the reasons I started my Rolex newsletter 'zine and later co-authored the book, was because of dealers loud and assertive pronouncements that a watch I knew to be real "was absolutely fake!" You "may" be right. But.......it looks good so far. Jeff |
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Y'all know WAY more than I do, but here are my thoughts...
If that is a valid reference, wouldn't it break down like this: 181 = Day/Date 1 = Finely-engine-turned 8 = 18k YG Are there any other examples of this "Finely-engine-turned" bezel finish and does it look like the picture? Many of the reference charts I've seen do not have the "7" = Bark listed, so it wouldn't shock me if these lists didn't include everything... The way the bezel looks like it could be somewhat consistent with other jewelry finishes of that time period (1980's per the serial #). It's like a smoothed out nugget finish. It's not bark, but I like it! lol Here's my concern: were there champagne stick dials from that period that are like this one in that it doesn't have the little white dots at the end of the sticks? All the ones I've seen do, but I admittedly have not seen that many and I am by no mean experienced in such matters....
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I checked every web site I could and checked all of my reference books...including 1980's Corrigans master catalogues and many other Rolex and watch material I own and I could not find it.
Frustrating. Jeff |
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To the OP,
could you please show us a "between the lugs" picture? |
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Idle Swede and 777- I will take this watch out of the bank today and post
pictures that will show the reference number between the lugs. I lost my internet connection last night and could not continue the discussion... Thanks for trying to help! sapphire65 |
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Thanks for all the feedback so far. I guess the jury is still out on this one, but I now have some valid clues to help in my research...
Does anyone have any more ideas? sapphire65 |
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Are you going to have it opened and peek inside?
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Here are pictures that show the reference number and the serial number.
I did have the back off, when I bought it, and the movement is a single-quick 3055. This should be consistent with the year it was made, around 1980. regards, sapphire65 |
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Great pictures sapphire.
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That is the EXACT watch I was offered about a year ago! I swore it was correct but let a good friend (and an "expert on this board whom I asked about it) talk me out of it. Both said it was fake. I still felt it was right though and I guess I should have followed my sixth sense! Jeff Can I ask where you bought it? |
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You should have asked Larry, he's the only expert I trust when it comes to DD's. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What was the asking price for it Jeff? |
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