Arabic Dials for legit check comparison

[DaMan1990]

Good morning friends, how about we enrich this thread with all the Arabic logos we know? It could be helpful for anyone looking to buy a watch with an Arabic dial, for comparison.

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Datejust 16030 - RED KHANJAR OMAN

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Datejust 16014 - Saudi Arabia King Fahd

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Uae air force

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Abu dhabi defence force

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Gmt master uae eagle

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Oman Logo

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Bahrain Logo

[DaMan1990]

Since the establishment of the United Arab Emirates in 1971, the rulers made requests to prestigious watchmakers such as Longines, Omega, Tudor, Patek, and Rolex to create customized watches to honor foreign guests or to pay tribute to high-ranking officials of the Arab military forces.

Rolex, in particular, has produced many models featuring dials depicting the emblems of the Armed Forces and the eagle logo of the UAE.

[DaMan1990]

Today, I want to talk to you about the logo that Rolex personalized in honor of the Crown Prince of the United Arab Emirates, His Highness Mohammed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, which I had the privilege to photograph.

The customization with the signature of Prince Mohammed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan can mainly be found on classic Rolex models like the Datejust and Day-Date from the first half of the 1970s.

In the Day-Date models, the customization also extended to dials known as Stella dials, of which I had the opportunity to see variants in red and sky blue. Regardless of the dial color, the signature and logo are always in green, a sacred color in Islam because it represents paradise.

Rolex Daydate ref. 1803

















In all these dials, the signature has been placed in lieu of the classic chronometer certification texts, and they are generally mounted on cases made of gold or steel-gold.

I would like to thank Stefano Mazzariol (mazzariolstefanoblog) for his insights.

[DaMan1990]

Submariner 1680 Omen







I would like to thank Stefano Mazzariol (mazzariolstefanoblog) for his insights.

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Rolex GMT 1675 Rashid Al Maktoum






















I would like to thank Stefano Mazzariol (mazzariolstefanoblog) for his insights.

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Sea-Dweller 1665 Oman












I would like to thank Stefano Mazzariol (mazzariolstefanoblog) for his insights.

[DaMan1990]

GMT Master ref.1675/8 Logo Oman











I would like to thank Stefano Mazzariol (mazzariolstefanoblog) for his insights.

[DaMan1990]

Day-Date 1807






I would like to thank Stefano Mazzariol (mazzariolstefanoblog) for his insights.

[1William]

Very interesting dials.

[offrdmania]

There is plenty of documentation on these dials already. Most that you have posted are from these libraries but with anything else that is printed on an existing dial, provenance and paperwork still rules. Many of these dials are faked as well as Tiffany marked dials and they too require paperwork and provenance to authenticate.
Without the paperwork or provenance, IMO it is just an aftermarket painted dial.

[PPFANBOY]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

There is plenty of documentation on these dials already. Most that you have posted are from these libraries but with anything else that is printed on an existing dial, provenance and paperwork still rules. Many of these dials are faked as well as Tiffany marked dials and they too require paperwork and provenance to authenticate.
Without the paperwork or provenance, IMO it is just an aftermarket painted dial.

The problem is a lot of the military dials in particular do not come with paperwork. Therefore provenance really is all you can rely on for some models..

[tekno]

Lots of sketchy stuff on eBay & chrono lately, I would want more than photos to compare to. There are some subject matter specialists out there who have had/have every middle eastern variant.

[Incroyable12]

I've noticed two different formats for the Rolex Khanjar dials.

One is where the dagger is placed in lieu of the Superlative Chronometer text and the other version is where the Khanjar is placed on the middle left side with the Chronometer text intact. You often see the latter style on Day-Dates.

Any reasoning behind this?

Also were these logos stamped by Rolex at the factory or stamped by a distributor?

In some ways I wouldn't be surprised if many of these now being sold as authentic were aftermarket creations by Italian watch dealers.

[powerfunk]

Originally Posted by Incroyable12

I've noticed two different formats for the Rolex Khanjar dials.

One is where the dagger is placed in lieu of the Superlative Chronometer text and the other version is where the Khanjar is placed on the middle left side with the Chronometer text intact. You often see the latter style on Day-Dates.

Any reasoning behind this?

Also were these logos stamped by Rolex at the factory or stamped by a distributor?

In some ways I wouldn't be surprised if many of these now being sold as authentic were aftermarket creations by Italian watch dealers.

Asprey Jewelers had the Khanjar cliche and stamped the dials themselves. Rolex endorsed it though, and supplied dials without chronometer text for that purpose. It seems that if they had to stamp a regular dial they'd just do it on the left.

And yes you're right to be cautious when buying these, absolutely.