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mitadoc · 15 June 2023, 05:47 PM

Hi there.

So, after a search, not so quick, neither so profound, I could see that the two-tone Daytonas are more expensive from teh AD ( obviously - precious metal), however on second hand market, they are even at level of retail price or sometimes even below. Any idea why?

Do you have to wait less for them?
Aesthetically not so appealing?

TIA and cheers.

Actually I like the two-tone with racing blue dial. A lot.

robinmgb · 15 June 2023, 05:55 PM

Simply a supply and demand issue
They are available quite quickly from an AD while a steel Daytona certainly isn’t!
In my opinion they are much better value when buying pre owned and also I prefer the look to a stainless steel

Garry1 · 10 September 2023, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by robinmgb

Simply a supply and demand issue
They are available quite quickly from an AD while a steel Daytona certainly isn’t!
In my opinion they are much better value when buying pre owned and also I prefer the look to a stainless steel

Yea I agree.

Henrimontgomery · 15 June 2023, 05:56 PM

Because it’s less popular. TT is polarizing. It makes the watch more busy and less harmonious. It also demands a premium against steel, and makes one year for PM.

So basically it’s a bit of a compromise instead of an elevation.

I’ve worn a 126613LB for a while but ultimately it annoyed me more than anything, and now the only TT I can wear is my vintage 17013.

danwang0520 · 15 June 2023, 06:08 PM

Usually, people go for stainless steel because they are the easiest to buy because they are cheapest...it is the entrance ticket, sort to speak....

However, if people want to buy precious gold watches, they will usually get it in full-gold version because to show prowess of their social class or wealth

two-tone is somewhat neither stainless(sporty) nor flashy(compared to full-gold version) so there is less demand for these watches

Harry-57 · 15 June 2023, 06:09 PM

My AD occasionally has TT Daytonas on display to buy. That's why. The demand is considerably less. I think it looks particularly nice in TT.

mitadoc · 15 June 2023, 07:33 PM

I just like this one, for example.

travisb · 15 June 2023, 07:37 PM

Far less demand for the TT.

fskywalker · 15 June 2023, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by travisb

Far less demand for the TT.

+1

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GMTNYC3790 · 16 June 2023, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mitadoc

I just like this one, for example.

Do you happen to know the reference of this one? Stunning

mitadoc · 17 June 2023, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GMTNYC3790

Do you happen to know the reference of this one? Stunning

116523

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Rolex1982 · 17 June 2023, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mitadoc

I just like this one, for example.

Wow, those pictures make the watch look even more beautifull!

Wilco68 · 10 September 2023, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mitadoc

I just like this one, for example.

That’s way, way more stunning than a say a Panda. I’ve no preference on SS vs TT generally. Full yellow gold is the worst look for me. Definitely old & tacky looking.

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Jackie Daytona · 14 April 2024, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mitadoc

I just like this one, for example.

Always thought that was one of the coolest Daytonas they made. I think the Daytona looks great in TT.

BroncoOne · 15 April 2024, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackie Daytona

Always thought that was one of the coolest Daytonas they made. I think the Daytona looks great in TT.

I hadn’t seen that Daytona combo before. I agree, TT works well there. Beautiful piece.

Wingman244 · 7 July 2024, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mitadoc

I just like this one, for example.

Well.... Due to this thread and these pictures above I just traded in my 116500 Black dail ceramic "boring" (Godzilla) and now have a 116503 with a blue arabic racing dial incoming. Should get it the end of the week.... I really need to stay off this forum, not good for the bank account...

skipstar · 15 June 2023, 07:39 PM

I agree with the above comments, TT is in less demand. I would not buy any TT model.

Mercmanr · 15 June 2023, 07:46 PM

Personally, I love the TT, I've got my name down for a black face new shape as my daily, the thing is you ain't never getting a stainless even with a good spend

Benzsiam · 15 June 2023, 08:12 PM

I always preferred TT over SS, all of my first 3 Rolexes are TT (TT YM, TT Datejust & TT Chnr).

My preference: PM > TT > SS

carwashchris · 15 June 2023, 09:10 PM

The demand for the SS models are higher than the two tones.

Example, the 16520 is selling for 26k + or - while the 16523 is selling for 17k + or -. In the vintage markets.

And with the recent 2 SS Paul Newman's selling at Sotheby's last week. I think the SS hype has spiked.

Just my thoughts. Chris

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BAUHAUS-NYC · 15 June 2023, 10:05 PM

This is covered in Econ. 100/101… Supply vs. Demand

brandrea · 15 June 2023, 10:09 PM

SS traded above MSRP for PM at one point … nuts as that may be.

2thdock · 15 June 2023, 11:20 PM

Is a "Bluesy" Sub easier to get at AD, then a SS? They seem quite popular. OP, that TT blue face is great looking. My brother-in-law got a TT white face Daytona at a local AD about 3 years ago with no spend history. it's just OK to me ( too fancy maybe). I like that blue face though.

garg · 16 June 2023, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 2thdock

Is a "Bluesy" Sub easier to get at AD, then a SS? They seem quite popular. OP, that TT blue face is great looking. My brother-in-law got a TT white face Daytona at a local AD about 3 years ago with no spend history. it's just OK to me ( too fancy maybe). I like that blue face though.

To find out simply how much easier each model it is to get, compare the grey prices with ad prices. The more the markup, the harder to get. In this case, tt sub is easier to get than ss

For me personally, I prefer tt over ss because of the variety of the dials they offer. However once I managed to go full pm, I never considered a tt again

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WatchTimes · 16 June 2023, 12:32 AM

Because two tone reminds me of the 80s and people who wanted a PM watch but couldn't swing it.

I just hate TT
All SS or all PM only for me.

SDGT3 · 16 June 2023, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mitadoc

Hi there.

So, after a search, not so quick, neither so profound, I could see that the two-tone Daytonas are more expensive from teh AD ( obviously - precious metal), however on second hand market, they are even at level of retail price or sometimes even below. Any idea why?

Do you have to wait less for them?
Aesthetically not so appealing?

TIA and cheers.

Actually I like the two-tone with racing blue dial. A lot.

As you can see from the responses to your thread, it's a matter of personal preference. IMO, the hype around SS Daytona's is irrational when compared to their prices on the secondary market. In addition, I'd never be caught dead with full YG watch as it's too flashy. Again, YMMV.

mitadoc · 16 June 2023, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SDGT3

As you can see from the responses to your thread, it's a matter of personal preference. IMO, the hype around SS Daytona's is irrational when compared to their prices on the secondary market. In addition, I'd never be caught dead with full YG watch as it's too flashy. Again, YMMV.

Yes, it is really.
Anyway, it is crazy to pay for such overpriced SS watches. So, hopefully one day I will be able to get a TT Daytona then. I hope more people think like you and it will actually go even below market price

Mystro · 16 June 2023, 01:00 AM

TT models in every model are like this. It’s been that way for over a decade. TT Rolex models were significantly more popular in the 1980’s-1990’s.

places · 16 June 2023, 01:04 AM

It's merely a matter of supply and demand acquiring them from an authorized dealer is relatively quick, unlike a steel Daytona.

swexlin · 16 June 2023, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by places

It's merely a matter of supply and demand acquiring them from an authorized dealer is relatively quick, unlike a steel Daytona.

Depends. I'm wearing my TT SD43 right now. Took me two years from my AD, and this with a decent spend.

15 June 2023, 05:47 PM	#1
mitadoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: East Sussex, UK Watch: 126300 Posts: 73	Why two-tone Daytonas seem to be cheaper? Hi there. So, after a search, not so quick, neither so profound, I could see that the two-tone Daytonas are more expensive from teh AD ( obviously - precious metal), however on second hand market, they are even at level of retail price or sometimes even below. Any idea why? Do you have to wait less for them? Aesthetically not so appealing? TIA and cheers. Actually I like the two-tone with racing blue dial. A lot.

15 June 2023, 05:55 PM	#2
robinmgb "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Kent, England Watch: Hublot BB Unico Posts: 1,089	Simply a supply and demand issue They are available quite quickly from an AD while a steel Daytona certainly isn’t! In my opinion they are much better value when buying pre owned and also I prefer the look to a stainless steel __________________ ROLEX Submariner 116613LB ( Flat gloss dial ) ROLEX Precision 12376 (1964) Full Set OMEGA 131.019 (1967) Full Set

15 June 2023, 07:39 PM	#17
skipstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Kevin Location: Northeast Watch: My first, Sub Date Posts: 1,936	I agree with the above comments, TT is in less demand. I would not buy any TT model. __________________ 116610LN \| 126610LV \| 126710 BLRO \| 116500LN \| 124300 Green, Wife’s \| 126334 Blue w/Diamonds, Wife’s \| 126710 BLNR Wife’s Tudor M79360N-0002 \| M79230B-006 Wife’s

15 June 2023, 08:12 PM	#19
Benzsiam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS Posts: 6,000	I always preferred TT over SS, all of my first 3 Rolexes are TT (TT YM, TT Datejust & TT Chnr). My preference: PM > TT > SS __________________ Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D. AP: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) PP: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Carree 2961, YG Carree, Tank W5000156 Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996"

15 June 2023, 11:20 PM	#23
2thdock 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Real Name: Mark Location: NJ Watch: SD43 Posts: 350	Is a "Bluesy" Sub easier to get at AD, then a SS? They seem quite popular. OP, that TT blue face is great looking. My brother-in-law got a TT white face Daytona at a local AD about 3 years ago with no spend history. it's just OK to me ( too fancy maybe). I like that blue face though. __________________ Sea Dweller 43, Omega 300M blue, Omega Speedmaster Pro Hesalite , Cartier Tank XL with bracelet, Gold Zodiac Moon complication(dads) , assorted G-Shock, Apple Ultra Wife- 36 Datejust mint smooth bezel, oyster

15 June 2023, 05:56 PM	#4
Henrimontgomery "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Switzerland Watch: yourself Posts: 1,275	Because it’s less popular. TT is polarizing. It makes the watch more busy and less harmonious. It also demands a premium against steel, and makes one year for PM. So basically it’s a bit of a compromise instead of an elevation. I’ve worn a 126613LB for a while but ultimately it annoyed me more than anything, and now the only TT I can wear is my vintage 17013.

15 June 2023, 06:08 PM	#5
danwang0520 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Daniel Location: Taipei, Taiwan Watch: my signature Posts: 2,684	Usually, people go for stainless steel because they are the easiest to buy because they are cheapest...it is the entrance ticket, sort to speak.... However, if people want to buy precious gold watches, they will usually get it in full-gold version because to show prowess of their social class or wealth two-tone is somewhat neither stainless(sporty) nor flashy(compared to full-gold version) so there is less demand for these watches

15 June 2023, 06:09 PM	#6
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,574	My AD occasionally has TT Daytonas on display to buy. That's why. The demand is considerably less. I think it looks particularly nice in TT.

15 June 2023, 07:33 PM	#7
mitadoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: East Sussex, UK Watch: 126300 Posts: 73	I just like this one, for example.

15 June 2023, 07:37 PM	#8
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,314	Far less demand for the TT.

15 June 2023, 07:46 PM	#18
Mercmanr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 78	Personally, I love the TT, I've got my name down for a black face new shape as my daily, the thing is you ain't never getting a stainless even with a good spend

15 June 2023, 09:10 PM	#20
carwashchris 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Ohio Watch: Vintage DD'S Posts: 871	The demand for the SS models are higher than the two tones. Example, the 16520 is selling for 26k + or - while the 16523 is selling for 17k + or -. In the vintage markets. And with the recent 2 SS Paul Newman's selling at Sotheby's last week. I think the SS hype has spiked. Just my thoughts. Chris Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk

15 June 2023, 10:05 PM	#21
BAUHAUS-NYC Banned Join Date: Jun 2023 Real Name: Jesper Forss Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Watch: Many Posts: 42	This is covered in Econ. 100/101… Supply vs. Demand

15 June 2023, 10:09 PM	#22
brandrea 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 77,410	SS traded above MSRP for PM at one point … nuts as that may be.

16 June 2023, 12:32 AM	#25
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	Because two tone reminds me of the 80s and people who wanted a PM watch but couldn't swing it. I just hate TT All SS or all PM only for me. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

16 June 2023, 01:00 AM	#28
Mystro 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,398	TT models in every model are like this. It’s been that way for over a decade. TT Rolex models were significantly more popular in the 1980’s-1990’s. __________________

16 June 2023, 01:04 AM	#29
places "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 79	It's merely a matter of supply and demand acquiring them from an authorized dealer is relatively quick, unlike a steel Daytona.

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