Ranking the hardest to get Rolexes: Did I get it right?

[Djoker48]

Non-precious metal only

1. Titanium Yachtmaster 42
2. Daytona White
3. Daytona Black
4. Pepsi
5. Skydweller Green
6. Skydweller Blue
7. Sprite
8. OP Celebration Dial
9. Batman / Girl
10. Bruce Wayne
11. Green Submariner
12. Submariner No Date
13. Submariner Date
14. White / Black Skydweller
15. Explorer 2
16. Explorer 1
17. Air King

[TBC123]

OP Celebration dial would be well up the list but good try!

[bibbi]

OP Celebration as #5 and OP Pink as #9.


bibbi

[dmash]

Originally Posted by TBC123

OP Celebration dial would be well up the list but good try!

Originally Posted by bibbi

OP Celebration as #5 and OP Pink as #9.


bibbi

Tiffany is just as hard…

Also OP41 or 31 is WAYYYYY easier to get than 36.

Lastly the YachtMaster will probably be under retail in 2 years, so if simply just wait if you wanted one of those lol.

[Djoker48]

Originally Posted by dmash

Tiffany is just as hard…

Also OP41 or 31 is WAYYYYY easier to get than 36.

Lastly the YachtMaster will probably be under retail in 2 years, so if simply just wait if you wanted one of those lol.

That’s what I thought at first. But after the steep fall, it’s been stable for a few months. Also Rolex is not an idiot. They know to constrain supply for their “halo” pieces for them to continue maintaining their status as “halo” pieces, namely: the white and black Daytona, the Pepsi and the the RLX YM Ti 42

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Djoker48

That’s what I thought at first. But after the steep fall, it’s been stable for a few months. Also Rolex is not an idiot. They know to constrain supply for their “halo” pieces for them to continue maintaining their status as “halo” pieces, namely: the white and black Daytona, the Pepsi and the the RLX YM Ti 42

It doesn’t change the fact that after the ‘newness’ wears off, most people honestly won’t care about the YM. Majority of people like steel over titanium on sports watches, despite the durability factor, as it feels like there’s nothing there. In addition to the YM bezel looking plasticky for most.

I’d venture at well over 90% of people like the aesthetics of a Sub/GMT over a YM.

[SLWoodster]

I feel the Skydweller green is harder than Pepsi.

[msum]

Is the Challenge still available?

[Space1970]

I also thought a Green SD would be harder to get than a Pepsi
But with a Pepsi trading 80% over retail and a Green SD around 50% maybe it’s not

[padi56]

Not a but interested in what's harder to get as if you believe what you hear on this forum all Rolex watches are hard to get. But if you have this so called AD relation-ship stuff and spent a zillion at AD then perhaps AD might sell you a watch. But on the grey market most all of these so called hard to get watches are available ay crazy prices.So do these special relationship VIP customers buy then sell to the grey for profit.

[hojlund]

don't think the submariner date is easier to get than submariner no date.

[Goose 104]

Originally Posted by hojlund

don't think the submariner date is easier to get than submariner no date.

I would say the no date is harder because they make so few of them comparatively.

[SLWoodster]

Based on my convos with a few different ADs, most people ask for the date. So sub date is “harder to get”. Also spoke to a dealer who put the sub date and the BLNR together in terms of difficulty.

I don’t think absolute rarity is a concern in this. It’s about anecdotal and relative demand to supply ratio. Affordability also drives a lot of demand as well.

Originally Posted by Goose 104

I would say the no date is harder because they make so few of them comparatively.

[Hulkhunter]

I’d say the green sub is harder to get than the new GMT or even the BLNR.

Also, some of the OPs are a lot harder to get than quite a lot of the watches on that list.
OP36 Turquoise,
Celebration, Green

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

I’d say the green sub is harder to get than the new GMT or even the BLNR.

Strongly disagree and grey market does too. I can buy a green sub for $14k easy today. GMT 17-22k. Not even close actually.

[Hulkhunter]

Originally Posted by dmash

Strongly disagree and grey market does too. I can buy a green sub for $14k easy today. GMT 17-22k. Not even close actually.

I have had/have a lot of the watches on that list from ADs so I’m basing it on experience and what iv heard from a couple of ADs I use.

The grey market pricing doesn’t always correlate. It’s only a couple of thousand over retail for a blue sky dweller now.
The premium for a Ti YM is also less than a black steel daytona and about the same as a Pepsi.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

I have had/have a lot of the watches on that list from ADs so I’m basing it on experience and what iv heard from a couple of ADs I use.

The grey market pricing doesn’t always correlate. It’s only a couple of thousand over retail for a blue sky dweller now.
The premium for a Ti YM is also less than a black steel daytona and about the same as a Pepsi.

I don’t know anybody other than you who would claim a Starbucks sub is harder to get than a Pepsi GMT. Literally the only person in the world maybe just saying

I can walk into ADs as a first time client and they’ll tell me a couple years for a Starbucks, if that. I can ask for a Pepsi at an AD I’m *established* at and they’ll still tell me 4-5 years (or more). It’s honestly not even close.

Edit- I actually just looked at my emails. I asked for a Pepsi GMT 3 years 1 month ago from my AD. Still yet to get a call.

[Hulkhunter]

Originally Posted by dmash

I don’t know anybody other than you who would claim a Starbucks sub is harder to get than a Pepsi GMT. Literally the only person in the world maybe just saying

I can walk into ADs as a first time client and they’ll tell me a couple years for a Starbucks, if that. I can ask for a Pepsi at an AD I’m *established* at and they’ll still tell me 4-5 years (or more). It’s honestly not even close.

The premium for the blue skydweller is about the same as a black sub date despite the fact if you tried to get one from your AD the sky is a much tougher watch to come by.

I could get a YM Ti, on the grey for £20k right now. I would be looking at £24k for a black Steel 12 Daytona. We have said on this list the Ym is harder to get.

[Hulkhunter]

Originally Posted by dmash

I don’t know anybody other than you who would claim a Starbucks sub is harder to get than a Pepsi GMT. Literally the only person in the world maybe just saying

I can walk into ADs as a first time client and they’ll tell me a couple years for a Starbucks, if that. I can ask for a Pepsi at an AD I’m *established* at and they’ll still tell me 4-5 years (or more). It’s honestly not even close.

Edit- I actually just looked at my emails. I asked for a Pepsi GMT 3 years 1 month ago from my AD. Still yet to get a call.

I never said the Starbucks was harder to get than the Pepsi, I said the NEW gmt. Ie the black and grey one. Those are a lot more widely available.

You seem to have gotten a bit worked up over a simple statement and misinterpreted what I actually said. As you say, we are all going to have different experiences. There are some general guidelines but there are also many variables.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by dmash

Strongly disagree and grey market does too. I can buy a green sub for $14k easy today. GMT 17-22k. Not even close actually.

Was much easier for me to get my sub LV vs the BLNR, so I do agree.

[Hulkhunter]

Originally Posted by JRell

Was much easier for me to get my sub LV vs the BLNR, so I do agree.

We all have different experiences so probably pointless arguing about it.

Took me 2 years to get a LV sub. Before that got the Pepsi in 6 months and the BLNR without asking.

Timing has a lot to do with it.

[SudiYunus]

Originally Posted by dmash

strongly disagree and grey market does too. I can buy a green sub for $14k easy today. Gmt 17-22k. Not even close actually.

+1

[Trice9]

Where would YM 40 slate fit rank? Thanks.

[Djoker48]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

I’d say the green sub is harder to get than the new GMT or even the BLNR.

Also, some of the OPs are a lot harder to get than quite a lot of the watches on that list.
OP36 Turquoise,
Celebration, Green

Heavily disagree but these things will likely vary from AD to AD subjectively

[Gearjockey]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

I’d say the green sub is harder to get than the new GMT or even the BLNR.

Also, some of the OPs are a lot harder to get than quite a lot of the watches on that list.
OP36 Turquoise,
Celebration, Green

Not trying to pile on but I don’t believe green sub is harder to get than BLNR.

I don’t think it’s even harder to get than new GRNR.

But hey man, that’s just like, my opinion!

[garyk]

Green dial YG Daytona was near impossible to get unless you were incredibly lucky or one of those special AD relationship VIPs that Padi mentioned.

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by garyk

Green dial YG Daytona was near impossible to get unless you were incredibly lucky or one of those special AD relationship VIPs that Padi mentioned.

I was offered one and turned it down. Had recently bought a DD40 and could not do another PM.

[drrd]

Originally Posted by Djoker48

Non-precious metal only

1. Titanium Yachtmaster 42
2. Daytona White
3. Daytona Black
4. Pepsi
5. Skydweller Green
6. Skydweller Blue
7. Sprite
8. OP Celebration Dial
9. Batman / Girl
10. Bruce Wayne
11. Green Submariner
12. Submariner No Date
13. Submariner Date
14. White / Black Skydweller
15. Explorer 2
16. Explorer 1
17. Air King

You mean for you?

[fly4food84]

Pepsi is harder to get than Daytona Black/White “right now.” Almost no one is getting them in 2024.

There may be some shift in the 126 Daytonas I’m seeing a lot more AD incomings for white than black and in the new reference it appears like Black may be the new preferred variant. Just my .02.

[Kinnakeet]

I see several SS Daytonas most times I go to the mall or Disney. My husband was wearing one once in a meeting and there was 2 others wearing one. Saw a guy last week wearing one in David SW. Many subs. Green subs. See the new GMT’s often. Saw a blue sky dweller recently. But I have only seen 3 other exp 2’s in the wild other than a friend that has one. My AD said he rarely gets them in. I my experience steel Daytonas are not at all rare.