To flip or not to flip?

[sarjoo]

Ladies and Gents,

I wanted to get your thoughts on something I have been pondering over for a while now, well ever since the SS SkyDwellers were announced.

So I really like the blue dial steel SkyD, so much so that I am contemplating flipping my beloved SS 116520 Daytona white dial for it. Now the predicament is, I can't have both so if I were ever lucky enough to get the call from my AD for a SkyD then I'd have to flip the Daytona for it.

So what I wanted your thoughts on is if I should entertain such an idea, or just hold fast and keep the Daytona given thats its now effectively out of production, and is at the end of the day a watch with history and iconic also.

Some background; I am in the UK, where stainless steel watches seem to be mythical and impossible to come by lol; to me the Daytona is a special watch, one I enjoy owning and am glad to have managed to source, but also one which I rarely wear as I have a daily beater Steel GMT-IIc for that. So the Daytona doesn't really see light that often so to speak, and so I am not really getting "value" from it.

If I am honest, when I do rarely wear it I am also quite paranoid about damaging it with swirls/dings and so forth. As a result the Daytona is mint, probably having been worn about 10 times at most over the year and half or so that I have owned it from new. Despite all that, if the Daytona did go, it would be a sad day though I must say, it'd be a shame to see it leave!

A SkyD, I think would give me more return in terms of wrist time, without the same kind of paranoia of damaging it. I just don't think I'd be as worried about when wearing a SkyD as I am with the Daytona at present. (Something I enjoy about my GMT, I wear it without any concern whatsoever, and therefore enjoy it more if that makes sense!)

So why do I like the SS SkyD so much? Well it has all the right qualities, its a large watch with more presence, which to me is great. Its got some great intricacies and complications to it, like the dual time zone, intelligent calendar, month tracking etc etc. Its got great visuals, with its fluted bezel and cyclops, PCLs etc. Pretty much has everything I like in a Rolex it seems!

So what to do...?
Flip the Daytona in anticipation for a future SkyD (that might never come!)?
Flip the Daytona AFTER the SkyD call comes?
Do nothing - Keep the Daytona and forget the SkyD?

As a slight aside, would I be realistic in expecting that if I did choose to flip the Daytona that it would cover most of the value of a Steel SkyD at RRP? Trying to gauge how much more money I'd have to rustle up to bridge the gap to a new SkyD, if any. UK folks especially, any thoughts on this?

[tyler1980]

flip it now. As you stated, you don't really wear it anyway so waiting to flip isn't going to give you any more time with the watch.

However, I don't get that you would be less paranoid of scratching your SD than you are with the daytona. Your probably going to be the same. Why do you think it would be less? I would try to get over that as both watches are nice and it would be a shame to not enjoy them for fear of scratches.

[BadBoyR]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

flip it now. As you stated, you don't really wear it anyway so waiting to flip isn't going to give you any more time with the watch.

However, I don't get that you would be less paranoid of scratching your SD than you are with the daytona. Your probably going to be the same. Why do you think it would be less? I would try to get over that as both watches are nice and it would be a shame to not enjoy them for fear of scratches.

What Tyler said.

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[sarjoo]

Hi Tyler, thanks for the response. The reason I don't think I'd be as worried with the SkyD is that even though it also has a full metal face, like the Daytona has, the bezel is fluted and so doesn't have the same smooth clean uninteruppted steel bezel on which scratches will show up so easily.

As for the PCLs, on a SkyD, I know they're prone to the same, but I am not so worries about the clasp/bracelet as the dial/face itself....which is why I don't have issues with my GMT I guess, with it being a ceramic bezel.

I guess the daytona is a higher maintenance watch than the GMT/SkyD perhaps, requiring a lot more care when worn, perhaps a tad too much to allow me to enjoy it fully and relax if that makes sense :)

I certainly could look at flipping the daytona now, but the risk there is the SkyD call never coming I guess, hmmm.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by sarjoo

Hi Tyler, thanks for the response. The reason I don't think I'd be as worried with the SkyD is that even though it also has a full metal face, like the Daytona has, the bezel is fluted and so doesn't have the same smooth clean uninteruppted steel bezel on which scratches will show up so easily.

Don't forget the SD bezel is white gold so it will be softer and more prone to damage. I do see the point in the fluted bezel not showing scratches as much as a SS Daytona bezel though as they can hide them better.

personally i prefer the SS skydewller of the two watches so i would do it.

[WAK4]

If you truly love it, wear the Daytona. If you just can't do it out of fear of damage, off it goes... No point in having it then.

[sarjoo]

Originally Posted by WAK4

If you truly love it, wear the Daytona. If you just can't do it out of fear of damage, off it goes... No point in having it then.

I think I should clarify, I am not opposed to wearing it purely to prevent scratching it up...but its a large factor that means it only comes out on special occasions to help keep it pristine for longer. I am not really a believe in having a watch you can't wear, a "safe-queen" so to speak, so certainly have and will continue wear it from time to time, but it just isn't as often as I would like I suppose, or as often as it should be, or as often as i think it would be on a SkyD.

I can see the SkyD becoming a regular "weekend watch" for instance, whereas at best the Daytona is a "special occasion" watch at the moment. While the GMT performs the workhorse duties for the entire mid-week period.

[beshannon]

Both will get scratched while worn.

Wear what you like however, this is not the reason you are not wearing your Daytona.

[Cru Jones]

You've had the Daytona for 18 months and worn it 10 times?

Why bother keeping it?

Flip for the Sky-D....But, I'm not sure you'll wear it much more? You seem stressed about wearing watches.

[sarjoo]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

You've had the Daytona for 18 months and worn it 10 times?

Why bother keeping it?

Flip for the Sky-D....But, I'm not sure you'll wear it much more? You seem stressed about wearing watches.

lol...I can see how my post might make it seem that way, i actually am not that worried and I get that these things are there to be worn and that wear and tear is inevitable....when I first got the daytona it was because it was a watch that appealed to me a lot, I loved the look in photos (and in person think its gorgeous), and it was a watch that seemed impossible to get. Eventually I got a call to my surprise, and jumped on it, and as I say I was and am so happy to own such a nice watch. The question arises as to wether I should flip it for one which I am confident I'd wear a LOT more, i genuinely don't think I'll be as paranoid with a SkyD.

I should probably just throw caution to the wind and make it a permanent weekend watch, problem solved ;-)

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by sarjoo

lol...I can see how my post might make it seem that way, i actually am not that worried and I get that these things are there to be worn and that wear and tear is inevitable....when I first got the daytona it was because it was a watch that appealed to me a lot, I loved the look in photos (and in person think its gorgeous), and it was a watch that seemed impossible to get. Eventually I got a call to my surprise, and jumped on it, and as I say I was and am so happy to own such a nice watch. The question arises as to wether I should flip it for one which I am confident I'd wear a LOT more, i genuinely don't think I'll be as paranoid with a SkyD.

I should probably just throw caution to the wind and make it a permanent weekend watch, problem solved ;-)

There are a lot of "nice" watches out there...so, for what it's worth, I personally tend to focus on the watches I'd actually like to wear.

[sarjoo]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

There are a lot of "nice" watches out there...so, for what it's worth, I personally tend to focus on the watches I'd actually like to wear.

I hear ya. I think what I might do is wear the daytona as a weekend'er for a while and see if my perception changes. If it does, nothing to do. If it doesn't, then I'll consider the flip option. If and when that flip hurdle comes...I'll decide if its better to flip before or after the SkyD call comes I guess.

[1William]

I would keep the Daytona for now and wear it more. Let the Sky-Dweller arrive and give it some time for all the hype to go away. If you still want it you should be close on a straight trade once the Sky-Dweller is sitting in the case. I think a lot of folks will like the Sky-Dweller but when it comes to paying, not so many.

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by 1William

I would keep the Daytona for now and wear it more. Let the Sky-Dweller arrive and give it some time for all the hype to go away. If you still want it you should be close on a straight trade once the Sky-Dweller is sitting in the case. I think a lot of folks will like the Sky-Dweller but when it comes to paying, not so many.

My thoughts exactly.

[sarjoo]

Originally Posted by 1William

I would keep the Daytona for now and wear it more. Let the Sky-Dweller arrive and give it some time for all the hype to go away. If you still want it you should be close on a straight trade once the Sky-Dweller is sitting in the case. I think a lot of folks will like the Sky-Dweller but when it comes to paying, not so many.

Doesn't this depend upon the SkyD becoming easier to get though, is that likely? I know supply isn't expected to be as tight as a DaytonaC but still will it become that much easier?

Also for a 'close to trade' swap the 116520 would need to go up a fair bit in value yet I'd have though, hard to say though.

I'd probably only want to flip it if there was a marginal cost difference I think, don't want to have spend a lot extra on top, which as you say may be possible with a bit of time, in the meantime the plan could be to enjoy the daytona more!

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by sarjoo

Doesn't this depend upon the SkyD becoming easier to get though, is that likely? I know supply isn't expected to be as tight as a DaytonaC but still will it become that much easier?

supply is going to be very tight initially especially for the blue dial. Your in london so its worse than other parts of the UK which is also very bad at the moment for availability across the board.

If supply is tight for the air king in the UK that tells you all you need to know. Sky dweller will be considerable tighter.

[Chiboy]

You should get whatever watch you think will look best in a safe!

No, seriously: If you can't enjoy the Daytona for whatever reason, I'd flip it. Since you have another nice watch to wear, and are barely wearing the Daytona now, I'd try to sell it now and get a good price. You may feel more pressure to take a quick deal if the SD comes in before you've sold the Daytona.

Buy whatever appeals to you that you think you would be comfortable wearing.

[sarjoo]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

You should get whatever watch you think will look best in a safe!

No, seriously: If you can't enjoy the Daytona for whatever reason, I'd flip it. Since you have another nice watch to wear, and are barely wearing the Daytona now, I'd try to sell it now and get a good price. You may feel more pressure to take a quick deal if the SD comes in before you've sold the Daytona.

Buy whatever appeals to you that you think you would be comfortable wearing.

I have kinda been warming to the suggestion to try and bide my time, see how SkyD availability pans out in the coming months/year(s) and take it from there. Its not like theres any real urgency to flip, which also means I get to just try using the daytona more, and see how that fares.

[AK797]

I think you don't wear the Daytona much because you want to get full value for it when you sell. I do the same once I know a watch is outgoing. If so you might as well sell now. I would personally enjoy the watch selectively and then sell after I buy the SkyD, and after knowing for sure that it is the keeper, plus it could be many months in the UK.

[Chewbacca]

Flip!

[MCO1]

I would keep and start wearing the Daytona. In reality the Sky Dweller will most likely be relegated to the same fate as the Daytona because you have a daily wearer.

I am biased though as I am not a fan of the Sky-Dweller and love Daytona. I always warm slowly to new models without a lot of history and tradition.

[youthagainsttt]

Yep, flip it

A gold watch I can understand if you kept it for special occasions but you shouldn't baby a steel piece - it should be worn at least in rotation. And a sky dweller has a great complication/movement

[JP Chestnut]

The bezel on your Daytona can be easily and cheaply replaced. The SkyD is a big watch. I like my Daytona and I can't imagine wearing such a large and dressy watch as the SkyD.

[JR16]

I would wear the hell out of the Daytona


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[ocwatching]

have you test worn a gold SkyD? its a beast..almost like the DSSD on smaller wrist (mine is 6.5")..its a lot of metal and bracelet..
wear the Daytona..its popular for a reason..its easy on the wrist

[sarjoo]

Originally Posted by ocwatching

have you test worn a gold SkyD? its a beast..almost like the DSSD on smaller wrist (mine is 6.5")..its a lot of metal and bracelet..
wear the Daytona..its popular for a reason..its easy on the wrist

Yes i went to an event in regent street london and tried on the blue SkyD,and it was fine on my wrist, which is why I kinda want a bigger watch now. The daytona is a fairly dainty, low profile/flat piece, even compared to my GMT it seems anyway.

Gotta say though in the right light, the daytona does pop big time. Does feel nice when it does make it to my wrist for those rarer occasions. You end up staring at it more as a result....and that blue lume i LOVEEEEEE.

[brandrea]

Only you can know for sure. Sometimes you have to flip because there is no better way to find out what's right for you.

I'd think about wearing your watches more often though, they're built to wear

[sarjoo]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Only you can know for sure. Sometimes you have to flip because there is no better way to find out what's right for you.

I'd think about wearing your watches more often though, they're built to wear

A bunch of you guys are kinda swaying me towards just wearing the daytona more often, and rotating the two pieces a lot more often. Sounds like a plan! ;-)

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by sarjoo

A bunch of you guys are kinda swaying me towards just wearing the daytona more often, and rotating the two pieces a lot more often. Sounds like a plan! ;-)

You're welcome

[sarjoo]

Originally Posted by brandrea

You're welcome

Who knows, if I hold station as now, and in the future if things go well I could possibly be lucky enough to add the SkyD to the GMT/Daytona combo....that would be a trio I could certainly live with :)

My gut feeling seems to be to not let the Daytona go given how hard it was to come by at RRP, without paying a crazy premium of course, unless you''re prepared to pay the earth am sure these pieces can be had the same day lol