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23 September 2022, 11:20 PM | #1 |
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Fuschia Dial 1675 At Auction
https://www.auctionninja.com/artifac...te--12597.html
This looks like an original bezel and bracelet but replacement calendar wheel, correct? It says "papers" but I cant see the other side. |
23 September 2022, 11:32 PM | #2 |
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It's a worthless repainted/fake dial for a start.
Appalling behaviour by this auction house, passing this off as original watch and not stating that fact - can't see any notification it's a repainted dial/fake dial.
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And what do you think of this one:
PLEASE NOTE New Information has made us aware that maintenance has been done on this piece, with that said we don't know where or when. |
23 September 2022, 11:54 PM | #4 |
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Yes : they've had the painters in
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Whether it was in 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000? Who cares ;-)
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Maintenance ... crap listing.
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24 September 2022, 12:35 AM | #8 |
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I've talked with the owner of the auction site and she is no expert at all with watches - especially Rolex. She has recently been contacted by a couple of individuals who have told her the dial is refinished.
This GMT does have a refinished dial, an aftermarket crystal and a service bezel. I also believe the bezel insert is aftermarket. Bid accordingly.
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24 September 2022, 01:30 AM | #9 |
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Hopefully we don't see an INCOMING with this dog of a watch.
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24 September 2022, 03:19 AM | #10 |
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A new hobbyist buying from mom and pop or small, local estate auctions, that sounds like a recipe for failure. I sure wouldn't buy a painting at a mom and pop estate auction unless it was verified 100%.
I don't get your point about scaring people off trying to start a collection. I've been around this hobby for over three decades now and don't know anyone that started off their collection buying at estate sales, which most of us know, they know very little about what they are selling. I talked with one of the owners of this company and she was very sincere when speaking with her. If you want more details about them, give me a call Aaron and I'll fill you in. You might want to get to know them, you are close to the auction site.
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24 September 2022, 03:25 AM | #11 |
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Interesting - if I ran an on line auction house I'd think my reputation is absolutely everything JP.
To the point that any big ticket items (Rolex, Linn, Harrington, HD Shovelhead etc) I'd run past experts first as part of my sizeable 18% commission. Having said that Phillips, Bonham's, Southebys do that and still get it wrong (occasionally/often)* delete as applicable, on your view of auctions ! Even our old friends at EBay now offer a guarantee such was the disdain over the years for not caring !
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24 September 2022, 03:43 AM | #12 | |
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This isn't a big name auction house Paul. Yes, the big name auction houses make wrong calls and misrepresentations all the time and they supposedly have experts on the payroll. This very small auction house does have their phone number in the listing and do answer the phone. No need to be so harsh on this auction house. It is a small estate auction house run by two friends trying to make a little money to defray college expenses and other matters. She was very sincere when I spoke with her and has modified the listing at this time.
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Great - see it now -Item Description amended . Hope current $10,000 bidders can bale out now, having seen it.
Noted new Description below: Please note the following, the original owner of this item is deceased. New Information as come to our attention from a reputable source just today 9/23/22. He states the following: - The Rolex GMT appears to have an aftermarket crystal - The Bezel appears to be a later service replacement - The Dial appears to be a reprinting. The papers that are shown is what was given to us by the estate. This watch as been serviced by a Rolex Service Center in NY during June of 1990. Rolex Oyster Perpetual GMT Master Superlative Chronometer 1960's It is automatic movement based on the caliber 1570 Vintage Rolex GMT-Master 1675 Stainless Steel Pepsi Purchased at Rolex watch 665 Fifth Ave New York -Papers shown are included 1 1/2"D Stainless Steel original Rolex band - 4.5" unisex Running at the time of inspection, however it was not checked for accuracy. *WE ARE CLEARLY NOT ROLEX EXPERTS* We are grateful to the good people reaching out to us inquiring and educated us. Thank - you
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https://www.auctionninja.com/the-tim...510h-2415.html
Ill leave this one here...5 days left in the auction. |
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Shame shame...
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10 October 2022, 07:03 PM | #18 |
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Thanks for advising again Doctorluxe.
I do a similar gig at least an hour a day on C24 (they asked me, and I do it f.o.c., and as Swaini3 knows on an expensive fake/snide GMT insert that he reported to me, we got it removed within 3 hrs). Ref below : comment edited.
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It's 2 different sellers if that makes any difference:
1. Artifacts2go Auction Manager Lisa or Jane 2. The Time Traveler's Emporium LLC Auction Manager Rita Gibson |
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Sorry, but my take is a little different, corrected the listing as soon as brought to their attention. Mistakes happen.
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Fake insert
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