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Old 29 January 2010, 04:09 AM   #1
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Should I get my GMT-IIC overhauled?

I have had my GMT-IIC for almost 2 years now, it has NEVER ran on time, always fast. Since I live in NYC I have taken it into Rolex 2-3 times before and they have tested it and always said there are no issues. They never kept it for testing for more than a few days.

This time around they've kept the watch for a week and 2 days and I just got a call saying that it was fine and they did not see any issues with the watch running fast. However, they did recommended that the watch be overhauled, which is basically taking the watch apart and putting it back together (correct me if I'm wrong). They would then test the watch again after this, so it's looking like another 3 weeks.

My quesiton is should I have it overhauled? Are there any drawbacks to having it overhauled? What are the benefits? I know my watch and it has never ran on time, but when Rolex tells me there's nothing wrong with it and I begin questioning myself. Would love to get everyone's opinion.
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Old 29 January 2010, 04:12 AM   #2
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I have had my GMT-IIC for almost 2 years now, it has NEVER ran on time, always fast. Since I live in NYC I have taken it into Rolex 2-3 times before and they have tested it and always said there are no issues. They never kept it for testing for more than a few days.

This time around they've kept the watch for a week and 2 days and I just got a call saying that it was fine and they did not see any issues with the watch running fast. However, they did recommended that the watch be overhauled, which is basically taking the watch apart and putting it back together (correct me if I'm wrong). They would then test the watch again after this, so it's looking like another 3 weeks.

My quesiton is should I have it overhauled? Are there any drawbacks to having it overhauled? What are the benefits? I know my watch and it has never ran on time, but when Rolex tells me there's nothing wrong with it and I begin questioning myself. Would love to get everyone's opinion.

Dude, I feel your pain, and YES, get it overhauled. My less-then-two-year-old Daytona also NEVER ran on time, and was in the AD several times for adjustments. Finally, the best Rolex watchmaker in the West said he would look at it, but I had to leave it for a couple weeks, no problem. He told me that there was definitely something wrong, the mechanism was out of balance or something, but he said it had to go back to Rolex for an early overhaul. So, now, it's gone 6 to 8 weeks

I was in the same situation and nothing seemed to help, until a very knowledgable watchmaker finally agreed it was messed up and needed to be sent in, actually, I'm grateful. Once more is the AD you purchased it from should pay for it!!! Mine is!!!!
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Old 29 January 2010, 04:27 AM   #3
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Can't really say since I don't know what "it has NEVER ran on time, always fast" means... A few seconds a day is normal............

If they have tested it several times and don't see any issues, then you need to describe your particular issue in more detail..


If you are dissatisfied and they will overhaul it at no cost... I would go ahead...an overhaul can not do any harm whatsoever....
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Old 29 January 2010, 04:33 AM   #4
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Can't really say since I don't know what "it has NEVER ran on time, always fast" means... A few seconds a day is normal............

If they have tested it several times and don't see any issues, then you need to describe your particular issue in more detail..


If you are dissatisfied and they will overhaul it at no cost... I would go ahead...an overhaul can not do any harm whatsoever....

Well let's say I set my watch against another digital clock at 12:00:00 exactly. In a week or two, I will begin to notice that my watch is off by anywhere from 1-2 minutes easily. So basically that's my problem. If it ran within COSC specs after 1 or 2 weeks it would be off by only -4/+6 right? Anyways, my watch is still under the Rolex 2 year warranty and it would be overhauled for free.
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Old 29 January 2010, 04:37 AM   #5
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Well let's say I set my watch against another digital clock at 12:00:00 exactly. In a week or two, I will begin to notice that my watch is off by anywhere from 1-2 minutes easily. So basically that's my problem. If it ran within COSC specs after 1 or 2 weeks it would be off by only -4/+6 right? Anyways, my watch is still under the Rolex 2 year warranty and it would be overhauled for free.
COSC is -4/+6 seconds a day... isn't it? So in a couple weeks, your watch could be as fast as a minute and 24 seconds and still be within COSC.... Larry? Am I missing somethig?
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Old 29 January 2010, 06:20 AM   #6
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COSC is -4/+6 seconds a day... isn't it? So in a couple weeks, your watch could be as fast as a minute and 24 seconds and still be within COSC.... Larry? Am I missing somethig?
Correct. Anything between 56 seconds slow (-4 x 14) to 1 min 24 seconds fast (+6 x 14) after two weeks is within COSC.

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Old 29 January 2010, 11:11 PM   #7
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Well let's say I set my watch against another digital clock at 12:00:00 exactly. In a week or two, I will begin to notice that my watch is off by anywhere from 1-2 minutes easily. So basically that's my problem. If it ran within COSC specs after 1 or 2 weeks it would be off by only -4/+6 right? Anyways, my watch is still under the Rolex 2 year warranty and it would be overhauled for free.
Scott'!!! Maybe you should read the thread.....

And maybe you should read the first line of my post. Where I said I respectfully disagree!!!!!!!

If this OP's watch is off 1 minute in a week. 60/7= -8.57 seconds a day. Thats an error of -4.28 minutes a month, I wouldn't own any alleged time keeper that kept that kind of time. Further I believe that the OP has enough sense to check his watch by a proven device.

Furthermore Rolex is recommending a full service, they are looking at parameters seen on a timing device that we aren't privy to. I wouldn't think Rolex woould recommend service on a watch that doesn't need it.

Once again I respectfully disagree.....


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Old 29 January 2010, 11:33 PM   #8
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Scott'!!! Maybe you should read the thread.....

And maybe you should read the first line of my post. Where I said I respectfully disagree!!!!!!!

If this OP's watch is off 1 minute in a week. 60/7= -8.57 seconds a day. Thats an error of -4.28 minutes a month, I wouldn't own any alleged time keeper that kept that kind of time. Further I believe that the OP has enough sense to check his watch by a proven device.

Furthermore Rolex is recommending a full service, they are looking at parameters seen on a timing device that we aren't privy to. I wouldn't think Rolex woould recommend service on a watch that doesn't need it.

Once again I respectfully disagree.....


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Well let's say I set my watch against another digital clock at 12:00:00 exactly. In a week or two, I will begin to notice that my watch is off by anywhere from 1-2 minutes easily. So basically that's my problem. If it ran within COSC specs after 1 or 2 weeks it would be off by only -4/+6 right? Anyways, my watch is still under the Rolex 2 year warranty and it would be overhauled for free.
Well the OP own statement above does not demonstrate any way for the testing any watch correctly The only way to test a mechanical watch correctly is give watch a full manual wind say 40 full crown turns clockwise.Then set time with a reliable time sourse wear as normal. Check daily over 7 days with same setting time sourse then average out the loss or gain over those 7 days for a accurate result.
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Old 29 January 2010, 04:30 AM   #9
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Sure, if it's under warranty.
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Old 29 January 2010, 04:32 AM   #10
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Old 29 January 2010, 04:38 AM   #11
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How fast is it running? If it's within within COSC, then you need to adjust your expectations for mechanical timepieces.

Edit: I didn't see your second post. Maybe the watch is magnetized, but two minutes in two weeks is too much, IMO. Maybe the watch just needs to be regulated.
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Old 29 January 2010, 04:45 AM   #12
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if rsc will do the work under warranty for free do it now...before you have to pay!!!!
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Old 29 January 2010, 05:16 AM   #13
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Old 29 January 2010, 07:52 AM   #14
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If there are no issues, why does it need an overhaul after only two years?

What would you say if you took your car to a mechanic who said he couldn't find anything wrong, but recommended an engine overhaul?

There seems to be a disconnect there.

However, if the service is free, why not get your watch spiffed up now instead of later?

The logic just doesn't seem to add up.
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Old 29 January 2010, 08:11 AM   #15
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Old 29 January 2010, 08:29 AM   #16
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If you want a watch to keep perfect time, buy a Quartz. Automatic movements will vary in accuracy based on wearing habits. As another person mentioned, a regulation is due, not an overhaul. Here is a tip, next time you bring the watch in, track its accuracy on a daily chart for two weeks and show the tech exactly what it is doing. FWIW, I like my watches to run a bit fast as it's easier to hack it back, than the other way around. IMHO, I think you are making big deal out of nothing, but at the end of the day it is YOUR watch, do with what you will....just my 2 cents.

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Old 29 January 2010, 08:41 AM   #17
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I'd go for it if it's still under warranty.
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Old 29 January 2010, 08:49 AM   #18
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When I first got my previous GMT IIc it was running about -6 secs a day.
I took it to the RSC & they adjusted it.
I wore it for a fortnight & it was still -4 secs a day so I took it back to RSC & they adjusted it again, got it to -2 secs a day which I was happy with until i sold it.
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Old 29 January 2010, 10:09 AM   #19
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I would not do it. It's too young and it sounds like there is nothing wrong with it.
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Old 30 January 2010, 06:42 AM   #20
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As stated above................need ACCURATE details.
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