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What does the future hold for the post 2000yr GMT 16710
Anyone feel that they have the prescience and collective past experience to predict the next 18 months for the 2000-2007 16710 GMT Pepsi or Coke? Desirability? Prices? Classic?
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16710 IMO is one of the best refs rolex ever made. Post 2000 isn't necessary but will always carry a premium because of the no holes case and super luminova.
One other note about the 16710s in general is the fact most have been absolutely destroyed over time. Even on chrono24 there are countless examples that have every sharp edged completely polished away. |
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I agree. I was lucky to get mine NOS a few years back. Z-serial Pepsi. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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I own a 16710 and it's of 3 watches that I will never sell. I don't buy for investment at all, but if I were to forced to pick a Rolex for a long term investment ROI it would likely be 16710. |
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Lucky to have bought my M’s new in 2008.
Still untouched. ![]()
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Well that one of the main problems today Rolex are no longer watches to some bought to be worn and enjoyed, now some think they are nothing more than £££$$$€€€€ objects.
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Sadly this is true. The "market" offers up this kind of participatory thinking by encouraging those wanting to buy watches for enjoyment to also feel that they shouldn't miss out on what they see as mounting prices and profits others are taking. I guess that not wanting to miss out is perhaps part of human nature and it's this, unfortunately, that drives greed. My question is that will increasing prices marginalise those who see watches as collectible pieces to own for enjoyment and how long before the whole nature of watch collecting changes to one of economic off the book asset collections? My prediction is that not a lot will change in the next 24 months while the sharks are still eating, pushing up prices but then what. What happens when they have had their fun, their profits? What then?
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Please tell us why this offends you so much. A watch is an object, like a car or a toaster or a spoon. Some people value things and money isn’t and shouldn’t be considered and some people look at things as a cash value. Who cares if other don’t share your reverence for the brand? In order to participate on this forum do we have to prove that we love Rolex so much that to talk about it in terms of dollar value is sacrilege? |
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Some people buy them for investments, some for wearing, some switch from one category to the other... (or are in the two categories) --> I encourage you not to tell "it was better before"
![]() We should see the investment tendancy as a great manner to see (or buy) untouched models in a few decades, bringing back souvenirs.
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16710 is fine piece mine Is staying were it belongs on my wrist
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Well….
I can’t really comment on most of those things except desirability…….always loved the GMT
Got my pair of Z 116713 and 16710(basically unworn) at the same time when ADs were fun to shop at in 2006 My daily K 16710 on jubilee 16750 8.2 serial And finally my 1675 Still have them all and are priceless to me ![]() I’m not really into internet hype so can’t comment on that….as for future value, the cartel will determine that |
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I specifically sought out a 16710 as a daily wear piece. I took into consideration that is was probably modern enough to not just be a quirky vintage piece that can be unreliable and make the wearer anxious about truly putting the watch though it’s paces daily.
My D Serial 16710 (2005-2006) is an excellent fit on my wrist and was serviced by RSC in 2016. I can truly only afford one luxury wristwatch that stays on my wrist 24/7. For now, without any concern for “investment” potential I continue to daily wear the Pepsi. I don’t want it’s price to tank necessarily of course but I don’t expect it to go up much more than it has over the past several years. ![]() Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Nothing to add to this thread other than that is a beautiful watch and a great pic (and shows history). Great purchase and wear in good health…every day. |
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If I did it would surely not be about watches
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What do you think? What research have you done? Why are you asking? Why the next 18 months? What is “classic?” Do to own one, have you always wanted one, what do you enjoy about them? |
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What does the future hold for the post 2000yr GMT 16710
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![]() I was asking myself all these questions after reading post #3 and decided neither to post nor to upload a photo of my 16710. Another useless thread and zero-content copy/paste posts (#6) out of many here. |
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What do you think? Well I think that I don't know and I might see what forum members think and take it from there... What research have you done? Research into what? Into prices? Desirability? Probably no more or less than others and I come to the conclusion that prices are high but will most likely stabilise, but worth asking what others think in a free forum.... Why are you asking? Asking because it interests me and by the responses others do have opinions. Why the next 18 months? not too close and not too far away - purely arbitary - choose your own ending my friend. What is “classic?” Good question. I don't know, it's quite connotative - what do you think? Do to own one, have you always wanted one, what do you enjoy abo - Yes, I own two GMT's a coke and a pepsi bought 10 years ago and 7 years ago respectively. Thinking of a third over the past few years, but might have missed the boat now. Anyway, your turn. ![]() |
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What does the future hold for the post 2000yr GMT 16710
I forgot to say.,,, I wear the hell out of mine. I like my sharp lugs, but only cause I like to look at them. That watch is part of the “permanent” collection.
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I clicked on the link just to look at photos of various 16710s
Thanks to those who contributed. |
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16710 Red/Blue is the best ever in the GMT stable .There is a completeness in design that's just unequaled .Timeless
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