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JP. · 6 September 2019, 07:24 PM

I guess this was never shared here in the review forum. Enjoy the writeup!

https://luxurywatches635.wordpress.c...ster-ii-16710/

996marty · 10 September 2019, 08:46 PM

Good write up of a great watch.

brandrea · 10 September 2019, 08:55 PM

Thanks for this Juho

I’d forgotten that there is actually a practical reason for having the 120 click bezel on the GMT.

JP. · 16 September 2019, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Thanks for this Juho

I’d forgotten that there is actually a practical reason for having the 120 click bezel on the GMT.

You're welcome.

Andad · 16 September 2019, 08:04 PM

strafer_kid · 16 September 2019, 10:43 PM

Nice write up...great watch!

jbglx · 1 October 2019, 08:56 PM

With the BLRO 216710 Rolex ruined the GMT , making it an hybrid between GMT and Submariner . Maxi-case , maxi-dial and ... Triplock !!! That´s why everybody searchs the 16710 .

JP. · 13 October 2019, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jbglx

With the BLRO 216710 Rolex ruined the GMT , making it an hybrid between GMT and Submariner . Maxi-case , maxi-dial and ... Triplock !!! That´s why everybody searchs the 16710 .

I also think it was cool that GMT and Explorers had the smaller twinlock crown. They had their own character and personality.

"Batman" and the new ones are great watches no doubt but the looks leave me completely cold. I don't see the attraction. But then again I'm past 40 and I grew up with the old Rolex models.

kg19989 · 25 May 2021, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JP.

I also think it was cool that GMT and Explorers had the smaller twinlock crown. They had their own character and personality.

"Batman" and the new ones are great watches no doubt but the looks leave me completely cold. I don't see the attraction. But then again I'm past 40 and I grew up with the old Rolex models.

I totally agree. I wear a 16600 and lately a Tudor GMT. I prefer the vintage looks of both. Great post.

JP. · 2 August 2021, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kg19989

I totally agree. I wear a 16600 and lately a Tudor GMT. I prefer the vintage looks of both. Great post.

Thank you Sir.

1SG MTB · 26 October 2019, 03:36 AM

Great write-up, I’ve had a 5 digit Coke for about 8 years and love the feeling I get every time I put it on my wrist. It will be my son’s watch one day as it’s the watch most connected to his childhood.

Separate note, I see you’re from Finland, I’m reading your review from Rovaniemi, here with my wife and son visiting Santa’s Village!

JP. · 27 October 2019, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 1SG MTB

Great write-up, I’ve had a 5 digit Coke for about 8 years and love the feeling I get every time I put it on my wrist. It will be my son’s watch one day as it’s the watch most connected to his childhood.

Separate note, I see you’re from Finland, I’m reading your review from Rovaniemi, here with my wife and son visiting Santa’s Village!

Hey that's cool man. Do you already have snow up there?

And thanks.

1SG MTB · 27 October 2019, 01:54 AM

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Hey that's cool man. Do you already have snow up there?

And thanks.

It’s snowing like crazy, so cool!!!

mdx77 · 27 October 2019, 03:15 AM

Thanks, what a great article - except one thing...I too have the same K series 16710 originally purchased for @ $5100, including tax. On average this watch can be purchased today for anywhere between $10,500 and $13,000. That’s a 100-150% increase compared to today’s 116710BLRO market price of about 80% over MSRP. In just 2 short years since this article was published, look how much this watch has skyrocketed on the grey market. Only time will tell where this horology roller-coaster will take us!

JP. · 29 October 2019, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mdx77

Thanks, what a great article - except one thing...I too have the same K series 16710 originally purchased for @ $5100, including tax. On average this watch can be purchased today for anywhere between $10,500 and $13,000. That’s a 100-150% increase compared to today’s 116710BLRO market price of about 80% over MSRP. In just 2 short years since this article was published, look how much this watch has skyrocketed on the grey market. Only time will tell where this horology roller-coaster will take us!

Yes. It's just 2,5 years when this article was written. The prices started from 6K (euros) back then.

Is it the supply shortage of the 6-digits or what? I don't know. And why just GMT? Why not the Sea-Dweller 16600 which is much rarer and more exclusive "top model"? Strange, especially when 16570 is still relatively cheap.

GMT 16710 was produced in very high numbers. The current asking prices are difficult to understand.

Stan Cooper · 25 February 2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JP.

...Is it the supply shortage of the 6-digits or what? I don't know. And why just GMT? Why not the Sea-Dweller 16600 which is much rarer and more exclusive "top model"? Strange, especially when 16570 is still relatively cheap.

GMT 16710 was produced in very high numbers. The current asking prices are difficult to understand.

Perhaps heresy, but IMHO the 16710 has a number of advantages over the 6-digits GMTs that for some justify the high prices.

For example there's the ability to easily change bezel inserts and bracelets, the reliability and accuracy of the 3185 movement compared to timekeeping problems with a substantial percentage of 3285s, and the granularity of 120 click bezels versus the 24 click bezels of the 6-digits.

JP. · 26 February 2021, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Cooper

Perhaps heresy, but IMHO the 16710 has a number of advantages over the 6-digits GMTs that for some justify the high prices.

For example there's the ability to easily change bezel inserts and bracelets, the reliability and accuracy of the 3185 movement compared to timekeeping problems with a substantial percentage of 3285s, and the granularity of 120 click bezels versus the 24 click bezels of the 6-digits.

Yes 16710 is kind of a "three watches in one". You can't beat that.

If you have only one Rolex, the black bezel version would probably be my choice. But since I own a Sub 16610 and SD 16600 I never even considered it.

Pepsi is my favorite but I've tried it with red/black too.

PhilippeD · 6 August 2021, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JP.

Yes 16710 is kind of a "three watches in one". You can't beat that.

If you have only one Rolex, the black bezel version would probably be my choice. But since I own a Sub 16610 and SD 16600 I never even considered it.

Pepsi is my favorite but I've tried it with red/black too.

That is just beautiful.

daOnlyBG · 16 August 2021, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mdx77

That’s a 100-150% increase compared to today’s 116710BLRO market price of about 80% over MSRP.

Now find the annualized percent growth.

Swearengen · 16 August 2021, 06:21 PM

The one that does it all

JP. · 17 October 2021, 06:20 AM

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The one that does it all

Looks amazing.

How much did you pay for the Jubilee bracelet?

Yaz · 29 October 2019, 10:05 PM

lutzwinky · 1 November 2019, 12:13 PM

Really cool write up.

JP. · 9 November 2019, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lutzwinky

Really cool write up.

Thanks man.

Vamp · 9 November 2019, 08:58 PM

This watch will without a doubt be back down in the low 9k range very soon (or I’m hoping so).

JP. · 29 November 2019, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vamp

This watch will without a doubt be back down in the low 9k range very soon (or I’m hoping so).

Yes the current prices are just... well... stupid. I sincerely hope the prices come down just for us collectors. Nobody benefits from the bubble prices.

hudsson · 10 November 2019, 03:38 AM

Great write up for iconic watch :)

mrtoulouse · 15 November 2019, 12:58 AM

Thanks for the great review

bjlev · 30 November 2019, 10:14 AM

Nice writeup and watch, thanks for sharing!

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JP. · 5 December 2019, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bjlev

Nice writeup and watch, thanks for sharing!

Thanks man.

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10 September 2019, 08:46 PM	#2
996marty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Uk Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928 Posts: 4,157	Good write up of a great watch.

10 September 2019, 08:55 PM	#3
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 77,606	Thanks for this Juho I’d forgotten that there is actually a practical reason for having the 120 click bezel on the GMT.

16 September 2019, 10:43 PM	#6
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,136	Nice write up...great watch!

1 October 2019, 08:56 PM	#7
jbglx "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: south america Posts: 63	With the BLRO 216710 Rolex ruined the GMT , making it an hybrid between GMT and Submariner . Maxi-case , maxi-dial and ... Triplock !!! That´s why everybody searchs the 16710 .

26 October 2019, 03:36 AM	#11
1SG MTB "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: London, England Posts: 398	Great write-up, I’ve had a 5 digit Coke for about 8 years and love the feeling I get every time I put it on my wrist. It will be my son’s watch one day as it’s the watch most connected to his childhood. Separate note, I see you’re from Finland, I’m reading your review from Rovaniemi, here with my wife and son visiting Santa’s Village!

29 October 2019, 10:05 PM	#22
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lutzwinky Banned Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: USA Watch: 116719BLRO Posts: 36	Really cool write up.

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hudsson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Europe Posts: 20	Great write up for iconic watch :)

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mrtoulouse "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Denmark Posts: 24	Thanks for the great review

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bjlev "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Brett Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: Panerai PAM 305 Posts: 307	Nice writeup and watch, thanks for sharing! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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