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timelord · 15 February 2010, 06:59 PM

I recently purchased a Brand new V series Submariner a few weeks ago and have just noticed that there is no etching of the Rolex symbol at the bottom of the crystal near the number 6 of the dial. I remember that some of the models had this etching. Do the later models still have the etching as I am getting very worried? Thanks!

toph · 15 February 2010, 07:40 PM

i hate to state the obvious, but i have seen mine once in 18 months on my GMT without a loupe and even then its not always easy. it will be there it is just very very small

BASSETHOUNDS · 15 February 2010, 07:45 PM

Unless it's a Milgauss GV it will have the etching . They can be hard to see sometimes . The hardest one to see I have come across so far is on my SDDS

bounce · 15 February 2010, 08:17 PM

It will be there, shine a torch across the crystal & use a loupe, it is hard to spot on my V serial Sub.

PhilM · 15 February 2010, 09:50 PM

It will be there, you just need to look harder

nauticajoe · 15 February 2010, 10:27 PM

I thought they started the etching back in '02. Try placing your watch under a bright light, then tilt the watch slowly. You should see it ever so slightly. Do this a few times....you'll start seeing the coronet.

jchampton · 15 February 2010, 10:47 PM

Took me awhile to spot the one on my daytona (also a V series), but if you tilt it under a bright light you can usually catch sight of it with the naked eye. It sometimes appears as a tiny 'smudge' at the 6 if my watch catches the sun at a certain angle. A long as you bought it from an AD (or, if not, you are confident that you got it from a reputable dealer) then I don't think you need to worry. It's there.

RFXMM · 15 February 2010, 11:12 PM

I used my daughters "eyeclops" toy and it did the trick. Plugs into the tv, has a built in light and takes seconds to use.

everose · 15 February 2010, 11:23 PM

Even when i used a loupe at the AD,it still took me 3 mins to see it!!!!

I found shining a light from 12 o'clock towards 6 o'clock made it easier to find.

karmatp · 15 February 2010, 11:58 PM

The best way for me to see it is by going outside on a sunny day and looking at just the right angle. You can't see it be looking directly at the crystal, you need to be looking at the bottom from a side angle, it will jump out at you.

timelord · 16 February 2010, 12:50 AM

I am surprised as I have fairly good eyesight and have seen it on many other models except for my new one which is why I posted the thread

Is it possible that the etching could have been missed during the making of the crystal as they make millions of them per year?

SeamasterGMT · 16 February 2010, 12:56 AM

I still haven't found it on my Deepsea and if it's not there, I wouldn't be bothered.

Numismatist · 16 February 2010, 12:59 AM

Try taking a small pen light and shine it from the 12 to the 6 across the surface of the crystal and tilt the watch slowly.

1000ftSub · 16 February 2010, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SeamasterGMT

I still haven't found it on my Deepsea and if it's not there, I wouldn't be bothered.

Me ether

maverick · 19 February 2010, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timelord

I am surprised as I have fairly good eyesight and have seen it on many other models except for my new one which is why I posted the thread

Is it possible that the etching could have been missed during the making of the crystal as they make millions of them per year?

As we get older these get smaller. ;-) maverick

This one is huge

padi56 · 16 February 2010, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timelord

I recently purchased a Brand new V series Submariner a few weeks ago and have just noticed that there is no etching of the Rolex symbol at the bottom of the crystal near the number 6 of the dial. I remember that some of the models had this etching. Do the later models still have the etching as I am getting very worried? Thanks!

As long as you bought from reliable source don't bother to strain your eyes it will be there.

sakuraba · 16 February 2010, 02:16 AM

Aany watch after 2003 should have it. Even if the crystal was replaced, it should still have the coronet, albeit with an "S" on it. Best way for me was to use a laser pointer and a loupe.

I wouldn't sweat it though. After all the trouble, when I finally saw it I felt it wasn't worth the eyestrain!

MagedMS · 18 February 2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Aany watch after 2003 should have it. Even if the crystal was replaced, it should still have the coronet, albeit with an "S" on it. Best way for me was to use a laser pointer and a loupe.

I wouldn't sweat it though. After all the trouble, when I finally saw it I felt it wasn't worth the eyestrain!

It's better to use a blue/white LED flashlight than a laser pointer.. Laser beam may reflect from your ROLEX and blow up your retina !!

Marco-16610 · 16 February 2010, 02:37 AM

The crown in the crystal must be at 6, but i have see it too on 7, 5 and one time on........10

ersnyder · 19 February 2010, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Marco-16610

The crown in the crystal must be at 6, but i have see it too on 7, 5 and one time on........10

I guess that would explain the difficulty finding it!!

sushisummo · 18 February 2010, 05:45 PM

Dark bacground is much easier to see.

It took me days to see it on my YM Platty. Finally see it using a loupe and laser pointer. Even with that it took me a long time. Need to be in exact angle to see it on my Platty.

You should be able to see it on your Sub.......good luck.

ciderman · 23 February 2010, 04:22 AM

I have a y serial ss sub serviced in apr 2008 and cant see any etching, do rolex change the crystal at every service or just when it needs to be changed.

Marco-16610 · 23 February 2010, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciderman

I have a y serial ss sub serviced in apr 2008 and cant see any etching, do rolex change the crystal at every service or just when it needs to be changed.

Only if it needs, so your crystal was good.

DadsSub · 18 February 2010, 06:32 PM

My '84 SS Sub is currently getting serviced at an RSC... They needed to replace the crystal - does this mean that mine will now have it, as well? Or will they put the old style back on...

VetteBandit · 22 February 2010, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DadsSub

My '84 SS Sub is currently getting serviced at an RSC... They needed to replace the crystal - does this mean that mine will now have it, as well? Or will they put the old style back on...

Replacement crystals will come back with the LEC, but it will have a very small "S" sideways in the circular part of the crown. The "S" is for service.

Alcan · 22 February 2010, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DadsSub

My '84 SS Sub is currently getting serviced at an RSC... They needed to replace the crystal - does this mean that mine will now have it, as well? Or will they put the old style back on...

Your new crystal will have this coronet.

DSJ · 19 February 2010, 02:09 AM

A laser pointer will bring it out!

rfknauss · 19 February 2010, 07:48 AM

Try an LED flashlight and use a jeweler's loupe. That little bugger is hard to see otherwise.

NavalFlight · 19 February 2010, 07:56 AM

The only way that you could have a real rolex without a sapphire etching is if for some reason you don't have a Rolex sapphire crystal but have an aftermarket one instead. I have seen an older (80's) Datejust that used to have plastic but was replaced with a sapphire crystal by a grey market jeweler. Either way, you definitely don't have a BNIB Rolex as Rolex QA would never let an un-etched sapphire out of the plant.

dr_bypass · 22 February 2010, 12:34 PM

Can't find mine yet!!!! Any special tricks?

15 February 2010, 06:59 PM	#1
timelord "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Margate Watch: your back Posts: 324	etching in the sapphire crystal??? I recently purchased a Brand new V series Submariner a few weeks ago and have just noticed that there is no etching of the Rolex symbol at the bottom of the crystal near the number 6 of the dial. I remember that some of the models had this etching. Do the later models still have the etching as I am getting very worried? Thanks!

15 February 2010, 07:40 PM	#2
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	i hate to state the obvious, but i have seen mine once in 18 months on my GMT without a loupe and even then its not always easy. it will be there it is just very very small __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

15 February 2010, 11:12 PM	#8
RFXMM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Atl Watch: 16710 Posts: 654	I used my daughters "eyeclops" toy and it did the trick. Plugs into the tv, has a built in light and takes seconds to use. __________________ No I'm not! I had mine removed.

15 February 2010, 11:58 PM	#10
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	The best way for me to see it is by going outside on a sunny day and looking at just the right angle. You can't see it be looking directly at the crystal, you need to be looking at the bottom from a side angle, it will jump out at you. __________________ My grails:

16 February 2010, 12:50 AM	#11
timelord "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Margate Watch: your back Posts: 324	is the etching smaller than on previous models?? I am surprised as I have fairly good eyesight and have seen it on many other models except for my new one which is why I posted the thread Is it possible that the etching could have been missed during the making of the crystal as they make millions of them per year?

15 February 2010, 07:45 PM	#3
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Unless it's a Milgauss GV it will have the etching . They can be hard to see sometimes . The hardest one to see I have come across so far is on my SDDS

15 February 2010, 08:17 PM	#4
bounce Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: kent Posts: 234	It will be there, shine a torch across the crystal & use a loupe, it is hard to spot on my V serial Sub.

15 February 2010, 09:50 PM	#5
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	It will be there, you just need to look harder

15 February 2010, 10:27 PM	#6
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	I thought they started the etching back in '02. Try placing your watch under a bright light, then tilt the watch slowly. You should see it ever so slightly. Do this a few times....you'll start seeing the coronet.

15 February 2010, 10:47 PM	#7
jchampton Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Jackie Location: London Watch: 116519 WG Daytona Posts: 84	Took me awhile to spot the one on my daytona (also a V series), but if you tilt it under a bright light you can usually catch sight of it with the naked eye. It sometimes appears as a tiny 'smudge' at the 6 if my watch catches the sun at a certain angle. A long as you bought it from an AD (or, if not, you are confident that you got it from a reputable dealer) then I don't think you need to worry. It's there.

15 February 2010, 11:23 PM	#9
everose Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: World Citizen Posts: 593	Even when i used a loupe at the AD,it still took me 3 mins to see it!!!! I found shining a light from 12 o'clock towards 6 o'clock made it easier to find.

16 February 2010, 12:56 AM	#12
SeamasterGMT "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK Watch: DeepSea Posts: 822	I still haven't found it on my Deepsea and if it's not there, I wouldn't be bothered. __________________ There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.

16 February 2010, 12:59 AM	#13
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Try taking a small pen light and shine it from the 12 to the 6 across the surface of the crystal and tilt the watch slowly. __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

16 February 2010, 02:16 AM	#17
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	Aany watch after 2003 should have it. Even if the crystal was replaced, it should still have the coronet, albeit with an "S" on it. Best way for me was to use a laser pointer and a loupe. I wouldn't sweat it though. After all the trouble, when I finally saw it I felt it wasn't worth the eyestrain!

16 February 2010, 02:37 AM	#19
Marco-16610 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 93	The crown in the crystal must be at 6, but i have see it too on 7, 5 and one time on........10

18 February 2010, 05:45 PM	#21
sushisummo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: JT Location: in a house....:) Watch: Hmmm......? Posts: 1,776	Dark bacground is much easier to see. It took me days to see it on my YM Platty. Finally see it using a loupe and laser pointer. Even with that it took me a long time. Need to be in exact angle to see it on my Platty. You should be able to see it on your Sub.......good luck. __________________ Collections: -- R-O-L-E-X --AP-ROO -- P-A-N-E-R-A-I -- B-R-E-G-U-E-T -- I-W-C -- B-A-L-L -- O-T-H-E-R-S WISHLIST: Too many to list...... Member #23367

23 February 2010, 04:22 AM	#22
ciderman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 35	etching in crystal I have a y serial ss sub serviced in apr 2008 and cant see any etching, do rolex change the crystal at every service or just when it needs to be changed.

18 February 2010, 06:32 PM	#24
DadsSub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 157	My '84 SS Sub is currently getting serviced at an RSC... They needed to replace the crystal - does this mean that mine will now have it, as well? Or will they put the old style back on...

19 February 2010, 02:09 AM	#27
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	A laser pointer will bring it out! __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

19 February 2010, 07:48 AM	#28
rfknauss 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Richard Location: Macungie, PA Watch: 5513 Sub, LV Sub Posts: 14,494	Try an LED flashlight and use a jeweler's loupe. That little bugger is hard to see otherwise. __________________ *"Few things in life give man as great a pleasure as wearing a Rolex!"* TRF's "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron

19 February 2010, 07:56 AM	#29
NavalFlight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 136	The only way that you could have a real rolex without a sapphire etching is if for some reason you don't have a Rolex sapphire crystal but have an aftermarket one instead. I have seen an older (80's) Datejust that used to have plastic but was replaced with a sapphire crystal by a grey market jeweler. Either way, you definitely don't have a BNIB Rolex as Rolex QA would never let an un-etched sapphire out of the plant.

22 February 2010, 12:34 PM	#30
dr_bypass "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Al Location: GMT+6 Watch: GMT - BLNR Posts: 315	Can't find mine yet!!!! Any special tricks? __________________ "Rythm, tempo, harmony, measuring & movement"

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