Rolex from Stockx: Rolex Gmt Batman Font

[dominate]

Hello,


I pulled the tigger and bought Rolex Gmt Batman a week ago. Today it has arrived! the first thing I notice was that the date font on the Batman is smaller and more refined than than my Submariner Ceramic. Can someone confirm that this is normal?

I bought this from Stockx when they were having 20% off. The watch came with no box or paper and it has a Z serial (not sure what year it is from)

Thanks for any input!

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by dominate

Hello,


I pulled the tigger and bought Rolex Gmt Batman a week ago. Today it has arrived! the first thing I notice was that the date font on the Batman is smaller and more refined than than my Submariner Ceramic. Can someone confirm that this is normal?

I bought this from Stockx when they were having 20% off. The watch came with no box or paper and it has a Z serial (not sure what year it is from)

Thanks for any input!

You need to post better pics of the BLNR.
Why didn't they give you B&P?
Here's thread where someone else bought from the same site. Doesn't seem his watch is genuine.
Always 'buy' the seller first.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=556303

[tintinsonson]

20% off MSRP? How much total did you pay for it?

[dominate]

I hope this is a better picture, the website states that box and papers are optional when a seller wants to sell it. It was 20% off so I thought either way it a good deal.

[dominate]

$7200

[dominate]

What do you guys think? Was it a good deal without box and papers for $7200?

[JamesChristopher417]

I've been looking to buy a BLNR and have been doing my homework. I have a very reputable authorized dealer and brand new the are selling for full retail 8,900.
If you got it brand new it should have box and papers my friend. Hope it works out.

Didn't see preowned. All the same add some better pics.

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by JamesChristopher417

I've been looking to buy a BLNR and have been doing my homework. I have a very reputable authorized dealer and brand new the are selling for full retail 8,900.
If you got it brand new it should have box and papers my friend. Hope it works out.

Didn't see preowned. All the same add some better pics.

I just bought my BLNR about 8 weeks ago from (I think) the best AD in the SF Bay Area. They sell them for full retail, $8,950, but have a hard time keeping them for more than a day, so since I bought mine they haven't had one on display. I realize yours is listed as pre-owned and before I got immersed in these forums, I considered an online purchase.

Now, thanks to my TRF graduate education, I'd buy only from a respected AD or from one of TRF's trusted sellers.

Good luck with this. I'll be interested to see how the discussion goes.

My advice: at the first hint of cold feet, I'd pursue a return/refund. I hope you paid by credit card?

Good luck to you. The people on this forum are amazing and they'll help you figure this out.


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[dominate]

Originally Posted by jstan9

I just bought my BLNR about 8 weeks ago from (I think) the best AD in the SF Bay Area. They sell them for full retail, $8,950, but have a hard time keeping them for more than a day, so since I bought mine they haven't had one on display. I realize yours is listed as pre-owned and before I got immersed in these forums, I considered an online purchase.

Now, thanks to my TRF graduate education, I'd buy only from a respected AD or from one of TRF's trusted sellers.

Good luck with this. I'll be interested to see how the discussion goes.

My advice: at the first hint of cold feet, I'd pursue a return/refund. I hope you paid by credit card?

Good luck to you. The people on this forum are amazing and they'll help you figure this out.


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Can you confirm that your date on your BLNR is the same as mine?

[Tools]

I don't see anything wrong with your watch..

It is not a "Z" serial, it is Random that begins with Z.

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by dominate

Can you confirm that your date on your BLNR is the same as mine?

I don't have a head-on shot of mine but I'll show you what I do have and try to post a better picture tomorrow. To me, the mag on your BLNR seems a bit small, slightly off-scale. I only have the BLNR and a 17 year-old Yacht-Master and on both, the 40mm BLNR and the 35mm YM, the date fills the cyclops lens, even on the smaller YM.

But, to be fair, in the photos I *do* have handy, I see the same effect so it may very well be the photo of your watch and angle from which the photo was taken and not the watch! Keep asking here. The folks on this forum have a massive amount of expertise.

[dominate]

Here's another picture

[tintinsonson]

is it only me or who else, the center piece of the crown is off center a bit, to the right.

[tintinsonson]

Is it just me or who else, the center piece of the crown is a bit off to the right.
I bought my BLNR early this month from an AD in Palo Alto, full retail, tax free.

[The Libertine]

Can't say I am familiar with Stockx....

[ssetem]

need more pics if possible

[cda555]

The mag looks the same as my 116710LN. Also, I thought it was rare for a fake GMT to have the correct hand stack of hour hand, GMT hand, minute hand, and finally second?

For those asking, StockX started out as a site/app to buy and sell sneakers. The premise is that the seller ships the shoes to StockX, who then verifies their authenticity. If they are real, they are then sent to the buyer. If they are fake, they are sent back to the seller.

[PatronMTL]

Originally Posted by cda555

Also, I thought it was rare for a fake GMT to have the correct hand stack of hour hand, GMT hand, minute hand, and finally second?

This is generally true for a lot of cheaper fakes, but there are $400 fakes that look very real and do have the correct hand stack....

I personally would pay $1800 more for the box, papers and more importantly peace of mind

[sager]

Originally Posted by PatronMTL

This is generally true for a lot of cheaper fakes, but there are $400 fakes that look very real and do have the correct hand stack....



I personally would pay $1800 more for the box, papers and more importantly peace of mind

1000000% agree


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[carloman]

Originally Posted by PatronMTL

This is generally true for a lot of cheaper fakes, but there are $400 fakes that look very real and do have the correct hand stack....

I personally would pay $1800 more for the box, papers and more importantly peace of mind

I also completely agree with this.

I understand the appeal some have for bargain-hunting, but considering the risks versus the relatively small returns with high-end watch trading, I feel that one is much better off playing with stocks if all they want to do is come out ahead financially.

I remember when I was selling a blue Bond Seamaster a while ago, and I thought how the scam can easily run both ways, which is why I chose instead to suffer through the many nut-job replies I knew I'd get selling it locally on kijiji. Ex: Customer buys a high-end watch via Ebay and pays through Paypal. Receives the watch. Switches it out for a really good fake and returns it for whatever reason. There you go...

If the goal is to acquire a high end piece of luxury for themselves, then I think the most stressful part should simply be during the time when you decide/justify whether or not you can afford it, not after acquiring it. Go to an AD, or at the very least a trusted BNIB seller on here, pay what you already know is the going price for the item (since you researched the heck out of it ahead of time, right?) and then enjoy.

I also really enjoyed the experience of sitting down in the Rolex area of the AD, being shown different models, offered a drink, coddled a little, and then basking in that new car smell. It's at the core of the consumer experience for me.

This is strictly my opinion, and I hope I haven't offended anybody with my rant. I fully understand that for some it's all about the deal. I've just found that once I know I'm being offered a non-inflated price for something I want and can afford, I don't see the appeal of trying to scrape more off the top. I'm pretty sure that I must be every AD's dream customer.

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by carloman

I also completely agree with this.

I understand the appeal some have for bargain-hunting, but considering the risks versus the relatively small returns with high-end watch trading, I feel that one is much better off playing with stocks if all they want to do is come out ahead financially.

I remember when I was selling a blue Bond Seamaster a while ago, and I thought how the scam can easily run both ways, which is why I chose instead to suffer through the many nut-job replies I knew I'd get selling it locally on kijiji. Ex: Customer buys a high-end watch via Ebay and pays through Paypal. Receives the watch. Switches it out for a really good fake and returns it for whatever reason. There you go...

If the goal is to acquire a high end piece of luxury for themselves, then I think the most stressful part should simply be during the time when you decide/justify whether or not you can afford it, not after acquiring it. Go to an AD, or at the very least a trusted BNIB seller on here, pay what you already know is the going price for the item (since you researched the heck out of it ahead of time, right?) and then enjoy.

I also really enjoyed the experience of sitting down in the Rolex area of the AD, being shown different models, offered a drink, coddled a little, and then basking in that new car smell. It's at the core of the consumer experience for me.

This is strictly my opinion, and I hope I haven't offended anybody with my rant. I fully understand that for some it's all about the deal. I've just found that once I know I'm being offered a non-inflated price for something I want and can afford, I don't see the appeal of trying to scrape more off the top. I'm pretty sure that I must be every AD's dream customer.

I agree with you, and if you're an AD's dream customer, I am too. The margin of savings you get online just isn't worth the risk. Indeed, before I bought my BLNR, I went *first* to Amazon because I buy everything there and hadn't bought an expensive watch in 17 years.

The back and forths with the several sellers was just enough 'off' to send me to my superb AD here in the SF Bay Area (Shreve & Co. on Post Street) and I've not regretted anything. The stress just isn't worth it.

And it's also good you point out that the scamming goes both ways. I've been scammed enough on eBay as a *seller* that I think you raise another good point and another reason to buy only from an AD or a trusted seller here. I'm grateful I found TRF.

OP, I join the others in wishing a good outcome on this. Sorry you're going through these doubts, but it's good that you're checking out your watch!

[Turpentine]

Looks genuine to me; however, the magnification is a bit smaller than the sub.

[sunizzle]

Get it appraised to confirm? The "Rolex" font and spacing seem a bit less flat than I might see in other pics, but it could just be the photo


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[SpeakWithMichael]

And there's that big gap between the bezel and the rehaut. That wouldn't fly with me. I'd look at that every single time.

[dominate]

Here is more pictures for those who are asking. It feel genuine to me compare to my Submariner.

[dominate]

one more

[Hairdude1]

Congrats

[yxc145]

it looks good to me. But I wonder about watches without paper and box. Either the owner was very careless and threw it away or it may be stolen goods. Does StockX protect the buyer if good sold is found to be stolen watch?

[TMore9]

I purchased a Ceramic Daytona from Stock X on their 20% off weekend as well... and all I can say was it was a nightmare!!!!

I first asked Stock X to confirm with the seller if they had box & papers. Once I learnt they did I pulled the trigger and am going to remember this lesson for the rest of my life.

The watch arrived yesterday, all seemed fine... Everything felt authentic and I had no reason to question it. Upon further inspection I noticed that the "swiss made" part on the dial seemed off/weird... I looked up pics of ceramic daytonas and none of them had a dial like the one I had... My dial was close but still very minor differences made me believe something was wrong...

I took the watch to a service shop here and they checked the movement & case... all matched up except for the dial... I still thought since everything else checks out it must be real. Then upon further inspection I noticed even more inconsistencies with the dial... and the bezel had inconsistent coloring... now I started to panic. I sent a quick email to stock x asking about this watch and they told me that I am wrong because the watch was authenticated by their "master watchmakers". I went to another shop that said the dial was wrong but everything else was fine.

I proceeded to send the pictures of the inconsistencies on the watch and basically told them that if they didn't see this watch had been tampered with then they were idiots and I would pursue legal action.

I got a response the next day saying they would check the pictures.... an hour later I get an email saying they are willing to accept the watch back.

Those 2 days were some of the most stressful 2 days of my life... oh also the box and papers were sketchy as well.. it didn't come with any hang tags etc.

I would never in a million years purchase from Stock X again. If I were you I would get the watch checked out by a rolex expert in person and if they too feel its off then fight the shit out of Stock X. They are incompetent assholes that think they are always right and the customer is wrong because they have "master watchmakers" well their master watchmakers can shove it.

If you've cut the green authentic tag off, just remember the serial no. is engraved in the rehaut of the watch and is also on their stupid authenticity cert. That's how I got them because I had cut the green tag off.

My case isn't over yet. I have sent the watch back... which they will recieve tomorrow. Only once I get my money back in my account will I consider it case closed. Will update with what happens.

JUST NEVER EVER EVER EVER BUY FROM STOCK X. Their customer service is useless and they are crooks.

[dominate]

Originally Posted by TMore9

I purchased a Ceramic Daytona from Stock X on their 20% off weekend as well... and all I can say was it was a nightmare!!!!

I first asked Stock X to confirm with the seller if they had box & papers. Once I learnt they did I pulled the trigger and am going to remember this lesson for the rest of my life.

The watch arrived yesterday, all seemed fine... Everything felt authentic and I had no reason to question it. Upon further inspection I noticed that the "swiss made" part on the dial seemed off/weird... I looked up pics of ceramic daytonas and none of them had a dial like the one I had... My dial was close but still very minor differences made me believe something was wrong...

I took the watch to a service shop here and they checked the movement & case... all matched up except for the dial... I still thought since everything else checks out it must be real. Then upon further inspection I noticed even more inconsistencies with the dial... and the bezel had inconsistent coloring... now I started to panic. I sent a quick email to stock x asking about this watch and they told me that I am wrong because the watch was authenticated by their "master watchmakers". I went to another shop that said the dial was wrong but everything else was fine.

I proceeded to send the pictures of the inconsistencies on the watch and basically told them that if they didn't see this watch had been tampered with then they were idiots and I would pursue legal action.

I got a response the next day saying they would check the pictures.... an hour later I get an email saying they are willing to accept the watch back.

Those 2 days were some of the most stressful 2 days of my life... oh also the box and papers were sketchy as well.. it didn't come with any hang tags etc.

I would never in a million years purchase from Stock X again. If I were you I would get the watch checked out by a rolex expert in person and if they too feel its off then fight the shit out of Stock X. They are incompetent assholes that think they are always right and the customer is wrong because they have "master watchmakers" well their master watchmakers can shove it.

If you've cut the green authentic tag off, just remember the serial no. is engraved in the rehaut of the watch and is also on their stupid authenticity cert. That's how I got them because I had cut the green tag off.

My case isn't over yet. I have sent the watch back... which they will recieve tomorrow. Only once I get my money back in my account will I consider it case closed. Will update with what happens.

JUST NEVER EVER EVER EVER BUY FROM STOCK X. Their customer service is useless and they are crooks.

I was just reading your post about this. I really sorry what had happen to you! Stockx is new to watches and they definitely needs to hire better watchmakers to do the inspection of watches. Not to mention they send me this watch via UPS with no signature... I came home with the package sitting in my front porch