Is it Ok for me to go swimming with my Deep Sea Seadweller?

[leopardprey]

[WatchTimes]

Sure but I would not risk going to the bottom of the deep end.

I dont know if it could take the pressure at that depth HAHAHAHA

[C. Davidson]

Originally Posted by leopardprey

Is it Ok for me to go swimming with my Deep Sea Seadweller?

Good one!

[astcell]

No, it is not safe. For that you need the Rolex Sea Swimmer. All you get to do is dwell.

[sbakar]

This was clearly meant to be a joke thread, but it does raise an interesting point.

Dynamic pressures caused by vigorous activity underwater, for example, can often greatly exceed static pressures at the same depth. For example, gently placing a watch at 10 m under water may generate less overall pressure than wildly thrashing around 1 or 2 metres from the surface; even though hydrostatic pressure may be higher in the former case.

Of course, what this means is that those 30 m water-resistant watches from a certain high-end manufacturer should NEVER be allowed to come anywhere near water!!

SNB

[Andad]

Originally Posted by sbakar

This was clearly meant to be a joke thread, but it does raise an interesting point.

Dynamic pressures caused by vigorous activity underwater, for example, can often greatly exceed static pressures at the same depth. For example, gently placing a watch at 10 m under water may generate less overall pressure than wildly thrashing around 1 or 2 metres from the surface; even though hydrostatic pressure may be higher in the former case.

Of course, what this means is that those 30 m water-resistant watches from a certain high-end manufacturer should NEVER be allowed to come anywhere near water!!

SNB

This has been the subject of many discussions and the final decision was that this was ...

[DSJ]

Originally Posted by sbakar

This was clearly meant to be a joke thread, but it does raise an interesting point.

Dynamic pressures caused by vigorous activity underwater, for example, can often greatly exceed static pressures at the same depth. For example, gently placing a watch at 10 m under water may generate less overall pressure than wildly thrashing around 1 or 2 metres from the surface; even though hydrostatic pressure may be higher in the former case.

Of course, what this means is that those 30 m water-resistant watches from a certain high-end manufacturer should NEVER be allowed to come anywhere near water!!

SNB

So you're saying that thrashing around at 10,000 feet could well exceed the capabilities of the SD?

[cody p]

as long as you got the arm strength.

[Marrk]

You could try it, but the weight of the DSSD might drag you to the bottom.

[Latrodectus]

Originally Posted by Marrk

You could try it, but the weight of the DSSD might drag you to the bottom.

[Erix]

As long as you do not dwell on the bottom you should be fine.

(come up and have some air from time to time)

[Trurolexer]

With all sticker still on, please don't do that, Chad.
Can make corossion to your watch...

[Rolexitis]

The water will cause spots, I would not do it

[Mrdi]

Originally Posted by Marrk

You could try it, but the weight of the DSSD might drag you to the bottom.

Please adorn an under water breathing apparatus before entering.

[Irish Dan]

Swimming? Isn't that why there are Doxas?

[watchnut]

Thrashing around not only increases the pressure, in Florida it attracts some unwelcome attention that might be more hazardous than what would occur to the movement. However, they would probably spit out the watch!

[Leighton]

It would probably be OK as long as you don't go out in the jungle and blow up stuff afterwards.

I read your Watch Time interview a couple of weeks ago, so I know what I'm talking about.

[rilu]

i know you can go surface swimming with it but it doesn't say you can get rain water on it, those rain drops are falling from way up there so i would definitely wear a plastic bag over your hand or an umbrella. for reals " that just happened"

[RossInIllinois]

Originally Posted by leopardprey

I wouldn't chance it. That deep sea is so big and heavy it might sink you to the bottom.

[DanP]

yeah and the only original gas escape valve is located somewhere near my A$$. And when its time for release rolex aint got nothing on it. I patented it first like so many others here

[SLS]

Yeah, as long as you don't dive head first into the shallow end.......again!
~Scott

[kiasunkiasi]

Wait, you must get approval from RUSA and your insurance provider before you do that ...

[padi56]

Originally Posted by leopardprey

Is it Ok for me to go swimming with my Deep Sea Seadweller?

Looks like I did not have to wait long finger on the ban button.

[Tony-GB]

[leopardprey]

Actually, the issue of how much extra pressure is put on a watch when jumping in the pool and swimming, compared to static testing, was asked on this forum a couple of years ago. One member who is a Physicst showed us the calculation to compute. The results were that even extreme splashing/hitting the water hard (think Michael Phelps doing the Butterfly Stroke) would add the equivelent of an extra 5 meters of water pressure to the watch.

Keep in mind that expoure to soaps and solvents and wet/dry inerations and sunlight, temperatures, as well can though reduce the water resistance of the seals by up to 50%.

So if a company is true to its words in testing (and that is the key), any watch that is rated to 50meters or more and has a screw down crown should be good to go for swimming.

But as mentioned, if you repeatedly swim/dive with your watch it is good to have it pressure tested every year or so. I know several ADs that will do this for free if you purchased your Rolex from them.

[vjb.knife]

Originally Posted by leopardprey

Actually, the issue of how much extra pressure is put on a watch when jumping in the pool and swimming, compared to static testing, was asked on this forum a couple of years ago. One member who is a Physicst showed us the calculation to compute. The results were that even extreme splashing/hitting the water hard (think Michael Phelps doing the Butterfly Stroke) would add the equivelent of an extra 5 meters of water pressure to the watch.

Keep in mind that expoure to soaps and solvents and wet/dry inerations and sunlight, temperatures, as well can though reduce the water resistance of the seals by up to 50%.

So if a company is true to its words in testing (and that is the key), any watch that is rated to 50meters or more and has a screw down crown should be good to go for swimming.

But as mentioned, if you repeatedly swim/dive with your watch it is good to have it pressure tested every year or so. I know several ADs that will do this for free if you purchased your Rolex from them.

The 5 meters of extra pressure is at a great depth when performing the motion and should not be construed as anything in the realm of significant.

And as far as your assertion of pressure capability reduction by 50% due to soap, solvents etc. I would like to know where you came up with that number because it is very very extreme. I believe that abuse and lack of maintenance over a long period of time (more than 5 years at least) and the introduction of the factors you mentioned could reduce the watch's pressure capability but how you could possibly equate it to a certain percentage is very doubtful. It suffices to say that regular cleaning of the watch and maintenace / replacemet of seals will keep the pressure rating up to it's full value and abuse will reduce it to some degree.

[danberger]

it's safe to do so, but you might look a bit silly with that lump weighing you down

[astcell]

If they have a gas escape valve, how about not putting any gas or air in it in the first place!

[leopardprey]

From two sources:

G-P Catalog on their In-house movements, manufacturing and care of watches. One of the best informative Catologs put out by any watch manufacturer I have seen.

And confirmed in a discussion I had with one of JLC's Top Watchmakers from Switzerland.

So I think "up tp 50%" is a pretty good reference of how much a watch's water resistance could decrease. But give that a Submariner is water resistant to 300 meters, even a 50% reduction would still give it 150 meters. Which is more than enough for most, as most recreational and military tactical dives do not go deeper than 40 meters.

Notice also, in my post I said "up to 50%" not "50%". All depends on the individual with the watch and the watch itself and how it is treated. IN actuality depending on how abusive one is to their watches, it could be more than 50%, especially the transistion from extreme cold to extreme heat, and drying out in very dry environments. Again, if you use your watch in extreme environments, and go underwater frequently better to be safe than sorry, and get it pressure tested every year. For most people a regular service every 5-7 years will suffice for their Rolex.

[leopardprey]

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