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JDCunny · 3 February 2020, 12:58 PM

I have a 16618 incoming (always wanted the PM Sub and finally pulled the trigger) and just curious at to why the PM Subs don’t seem to get much love? They are hovering around the $18K range (+/-) and don’t seem to have any future over that...

Is it because the Sub is so classic in SS? I have an LV Sub and understand the appeal, but in YG it just seems like the pinnacle of the model.

What am I missing?

dwjez14 · 3 February 2020, 01:07 PM

The pm subs get a lot of love. Mostly 6 digits. Also they are a bit pricey for some

MTdweller · 3 February 2020, 01:22 PM

A lot of love for PM Subs here!

bumbershoot · 3 February 2020, 01:16 PM

Yellow Gold doesn't look good on everyone's skin...

You can wear a SS model anywhere... a YG not so much... In many cases it's gaudy or doesn't fit in.

trfChris · 3 February 2020, 01:23 PM

If you like the 5 digits better than the 6 digits then you're getting your watch $10k cheaper than the corresponding 6 digit, so you have every reason to be happy!

JDCunny · 3 February 2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by trfChris

If you like the 5 digits better than the 6 digits then you're getting your watch $10k cheaper than the corresponding 6 digit, so you have every reason to be happy!

That was part of the choice...I paid under $17K for the 5 digit and the cheapest 6 digits are $24K (smurf). With multiple watches in rotation (and I wear them) the $7K difference goes towards the next purchase (DSSD)

japenney · 3 February 2020, 01:28 PM

You can wear YG any were unless it is an unsafe environment. In that case, why are you there in the first place. Embrace the gold.

Jona · 3 February 2020, 01:33 PM

Love the PM black. Love isn't measured by "market value."

schoolboy · 3 February 2020, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jona

Love the PM black. Love isn't measured by "market value."

Looks like you’re not only one that loves it!

Jona · 3 February 2020, 02:00 PM

Yes, Bacciagalupe the cat likes the watch. I paid $0 for him and love him dearly. Sometimes you get a good deal.

Fly2Eat · 3 February 2020, 02:02 PM

Nice looking watch!

csaltphoto · 3 February 2020, 02:24 PM

The 5 digit gold subs are a pretty good deal these days. Basically the price of the SS sub plus the value of the gold. I've thought about one but I am a one watch guy and not sure I would want to wear gold everywhere. But they sure are good looking.

jimcarver · 3 February 2020, 05:51 PM

I'm looking for a 16618 at the moment myself.
From what I have seen $18k is the lower end of the scale. For example typing in "Rolex 16618" into chrono24 brings up 154 results, filtered to $19K (to allow for a discount) brings only 9 results (none of which I would buy).
If you paid around $17k for the one pictured I would say you have done very well, any tips appreciated.

faimag · 3 February 2020, 06:11 PM

The 16618 blue is one of my all-time favorites. But its market is definitely smaller. You shouldn't care. Enjoy that great incoming :)

Kostas · 3 February 2020, 07:39 PM

Any future? Gold watches are as popular as they’ve ever been.

Manu74 · 3 February 2020, 08:57 PM

Lots of love for PM Subs!

Bigblu10 · 3 February 2020, 09:54 PM

Wear my 116618 every day. There is plenty of love for these watches here. The price point makes it prohibitive for some.

brandrea · 3 February 2020, 10:04 PM

Some folks love the “feeling” on the wrist and knowing that the watch is made in precious metal gold. To others stainless steel is the perfect material as Wilsdorf intended. No wrong answer but SS will always be the classic choice.

RHIII · 3 February 2020, 10:14 PM

There’s quite a bit of love for PM Subs - they are great watches. PM is just for some and not for others, for a multitude of reasons.

Rolex.c6 · 3 February 2020, 10:37 PM

It's just a matter of taste. Still see them now and then in the wild. But it seems they are not as populair as they used to be. At least in my environment it feels as if they were sold more 15 years ago. I see a lot of people going to a Day-Date now if they can afford one pm model.

SN13 · 3 February 2020, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolex.c6

It's just a matter of taste. Still see them now and then in the wild. But it seems they are not as populair as they used to be. At least in my environment it feels as if they were sold more 15 years ago. I see a lot of people going to a Day-Date now if they can afford one pm model.

Daydates are very affordable when you cross shop with 2nd hand 116610 and GMT C models.

18238 (dbl quick) and 18038 (single quick) can be had for 10-12k.

Chadridv · 3 February 2020, 11:08 PM

they get plenty of love, SS just get more. PM Subs are certainly not criticized around here, perhaps just not quite as popular. the 16618 is gorgeous. Congrats!

BroncoOne · 3 February 2020, 11:36 PM

People keep buying them so Rolex will keep making them, I assume. I have some friends that will only wear a gold watch and Subs are as popular with them as other PM watches that they own, but Rolex and non-Rolex

KBM · 4 February 2020, 01:53 AM

Lots of love from me.

mjb01 · 4 February 2020, 01:56 AM

I wear my 116618 once a week at the most! Really heavy watch!

mario1971 · 4 February 2020, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kauebm

Lots of love from me.

I could cut myself for such a watch. Beautiful :)

KBM · 4 February 2020, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mario1971

I could cut myself for such a watch. Beautiful :)

djgallo · 5 February 2020, 04:42 AM

For every person wanting a PM sub there are 20 people wanting a SS sub...there you go...

jvb.nc · 4 February 2020, 02:00 AM

i will never not want a smurf.

yellow gold looks weird on me, as does rose gold. i have a fairly pink scottish complexion

garbanzo · 4 February 2020, 02:49 AM

The future looks bright

3 February 2020, 01:28 PM	#7
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	You can wear YG any were unless it is an unsafe environment. In that case, why are you there in the first place. Embrace the gold. __________________ Follow me on Instagram to see my watch journey @Japenney

3 February 2020, 10:37 PM	#20
Rolex.c6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Netherlands/Spain Watch: Sea-Dweller 116600 Posts: 1,030	It's just a matter of taste. Still see them now and then in the wild. But it seems they are not as populair as they used to be. At least in my environment it feels as if they were sold more 15 years ago. I see a lot of people going to a Day-Date now if they can afford one pm model. __________________ Rolex.c6 Sea-Dweller 4000 SD4K Ref. 116600

3 February 2020, 11:08 PM	#22
Chadridv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chadri Location: LI, NY Watch: 116610LV Posts: 11,357	they get plenty of love, SS just get more. PM Subs are certainly not criticized around here, perhaps just not quite as popular. the 16618 is gorgeous. Congrats! __________________ - i͞n͟s͞t͟a͞g͞r͟a͞m͞ @ⓒⓄⓁⒹⓒⒶⓈⒺⓦⒶⒶⓉⒸⒽⒺⓈ

4 February 2020, 02:00 AM	#29
jvb.nc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: NC / CA Watch: 228206meteorite Posts: 1,333	i will never not want a smurf. yellow gold looks weird on me, as does rose gold. i have a fairly pink scottish complexion __________________ 116710blnr / 116610lv / 216750 polar / 126600 mk1 / 116500ln / 126710blro / 228206 meteorite / 126719 meteorite / Pelagos 25600 // insta @jvbphotos

3 February 2020, 01:07 PM	#2
dwjez14 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Danny Location: Mansfield , Texas Watch: All of them Posts: 2,381	The pm subs get a lot of love. Mostly 6 digits. Also they are a bit pricey for some

3 February 2020, 01:16 PM	#4
bumbershoot Banned Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Vancity Watch: Sub Date 116610LN Posts: 178	Yellow Gold doesn't look good on everyone's skin... You can wear a SS model anywhere... a YG not so much... In many cases it's gaudy or doesn't fit in.

3 February 2020, 01:23 PM	#5
trfChris "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Chris Location: East Coast US Watch: Rolex 116719BLRO Posts: 489	If you like the 5 digits better than the 6 digits then you're getting your watch $10k cheaper than the corresponding 6 digit, so you have every reason to be happy!

3 February 2020, 01:33 PM	#8
Jona Banned Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Watch: 116618LN Posts: 1,399	Love the PM black. Love isn't measured by "market value."

3 February 2020, 02:00 PM	#10
Jona Banned Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Watch: 116618LN Posts: 1,399	Yes, Bacciagalupe the cat likes the watch. I paid $0 for him and love him dearly. Sometimes you get a good deal.

3 February 2020, 02:02 PM	#11
Fly2Eat "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Joe Location: Houston Watch: Day-Date 40 Posts: 20	Nice looking watch!

3 February 2020, 02:24 PM	#12
csaltphoto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: US Watch: sub Posts: 2,403	The 5 digit gold subs are a pretty good deal these days. Basically the price of the SS sub plus the value of the gold. I've thought about one but I am a one watch guy and not sure I would want to wear gold everywhere. But they sure are good looking.

3 February 2020, 05:51 PM	#13
jimcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Abroad Posts: 829	I'm looking for a 16618 at the moment myself. From what I have seen $18k is the lower end of the scale. For example typing in "Rolex 16618" into chrono24 brings up 154 results, filtered to $19K (to allow for a discount) brings only 9 results (none of which I would buy). If you paid around $17k for the one pictured I would say you have done very well, any tips appreciated.

3 February 2020, 06:11 PM	#14
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	The 16618 blue is one of my all-time favorites. But its market is definitely smaller. You shouldn't care. Enjoy that great incoming :)

3 February 2020, 07:39 PM	#15
Kostas 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Australia Watch: @ kostastimepieces Posts: 5,268	Any future? Gold watches are as popular as they’ve ever been.

3 February 2020, 08:57 PM	#16
Manu74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Mark Location: Europe Watch: BLRO \| LV \| SkyD Posts: 1,395	Lots of love for PM Subs!

3 February 2020, 09:54 PM	#17
Bigblu10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Jaime Location: Here Posts: 5,606	Wear my 116618 every day. There is plenty of love for these watches here. The price point makes it prohibitive for some.

3 February 2020, 10:04 PM	#18
brandrea 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 76,847	Some folks love the “feeling” on the wrist and knowing that the watch is made in precious metal gold. To others stainless steel is the perfect material as Wilsdorf intended. No wrong answer but SS will always be the classic choice.

3 February 2020, 10:14 PM	#19
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	There’s quite a bit of love for PM Subs - they are great watches. PM is just for some and not for others, for a multitude of reasons.

3 February 2020, 11:36 PM	#23
BroncoOne "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Boston Posts: 1,322	People keep buying them so Rolex will keep making them, I assume. I have some friends that will only wear a gold watch and Subs are as popular with them as other PM watches that they own, but Rolex and non-Rolex

4 February 2020, 01:53 AM	#24
KBM 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,438	Lots of love from me.

5 February 2020, 04:42 AM	#28
djgallo Banned Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Eastwest Posts: 1,322	For every person wanting a PM sub there are 20 people wanting a SS sub...there you go...

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