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Old 18 June 2020, 10:48 AM   #1
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Tudor Black Bay 58 bracelet and warranty card

I hope someone can shed some light on this.
I very recently bought the BB58 on a bracelet and it doesn't quite fit. It's either bit too tight or ridiculously loose. Tudor don't make half links for it, I don't want to wear it on a strap and I don't particularly want to start drilling extra hòles in the clasp to expand from the measly 3 micro adjustments that come OEM, as that would surely void the warranty.
That leaves me with either sourcing an aftermarket strap or somehow engineering a bit of stretch in the bracelet so that it fits better.
Does anyone have any other suggestions?
As a side note, on the warranty, all I have is the store's stamp. My name, address and date of purchase have not been written in. Will I have a problem if I ever need to send it in for repair within the warranty period, which I believe has now been extended to 5 years as standard.
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Old 18 June 2020, 01:41 PM   #2
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I hope someone can shed some light on this.
I very recently bought the BB58 on a bracelet and it doesn't quite fit. It's either bit too tight or ridiculously loose. Tudor don't make half links for it, I don't want to wear it on a strap and I don't particularly want to start drilling extra hòles in the clasp to expand from the measly 3 micro adjustments that come OEM, as that would surely void the warranty.
That leaves me with either sourcing an aftermarket strap or somehow engineering a bit of stretch in the bracelet so that it fits better.
Does anyone have any other suggestions?
As a side note, on the warranty, all I have is the store's stamp. My name, address and date of purchase have not been written in. Will I have a problem if I ever need to send it in for repair within the warranty period, which I believe has now been extended to 5 years as standard.
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Had the same problem. After a few months it stretched a little bit and fits perfect now... also, summer doesn’t help. Makes your wrist swell, so when you hit fall it’ll be great and for me was smooth sailing from there.

The three micro adjustments / no half link is a fail though. It’s the biggest complaint I’ve seen on this watch.




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Old 19 June 2020, 12:25 AM   #3
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Had the same problem. After a few months it stretched a little bit and fits perfect now... also, summer doesn’t help. Makes your wrist swell, so when you hit fall it’ll be great and for me was smooth sailing from there.

The three micro adjustments / no half link is a fail though. It’s the biggest complaint I’ve seen on this watch.


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I have put it on the cushion it came with for now and hope that stretches it out a bit.

I'm sure if it was winter this problem wouldn't have emerged yet.
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Old 19 June 2020, 02:30 AM   #4
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I have put it on the cushion it came with for now and hope that stretches it out a bit.

I'm sure if it was winter this problem wouldn't have emerged yet.
That sure as shit won’t do anything to the bracelet.

It won’t appreciably “stretch” at all unless you really abuse it. The previous post regarding the bracelet stretching over time is incorrect, IMHO, and more likely due to fluctuations of wrist size over time/seasons.
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Old 19 June 2020, 11:39 PM   #5
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That sure as shit won’t do anything to the bracelet.

It won’t appreciably “stretch” at all unless you really abuse it. The previous post regarding the bracelet stretching over time is incorrect, IMHO, and more likely due to fluctuations of wrist size over time/seasons.

I agree on the first point. Hard to say in the second.

I know this summer it fits how I like my watches too, and out of the box I just couldn’t get it comfortable.

Could be just getting used to it, but will say it was just baaaaaarely too tight before. Seems to me like it’s broken in a bit after a year of daily wear, but who’s to say


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Old 18 June 2020, 01:47 PM   #6
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Tudor Black Bay 58 bracelet and warranty card

It’s a problem I have with the 41mm sized Black Bay. It’s a little bit too loose and I like my watches snug. The only other suggestion I can make for you to try is to remove a seemingly unremovable fixed link and use the last adjustment position (loosest) in the clasp.

Here’s the video that shows you how.

https://youtu.be/2Ff16dNFSd4


Also it’s not an issue with the warranty. The warranty follows the watch, not the name on the car.
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Old 18 June 2020, 08:13 PM   #7
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Simon Freese http://www.simonfreesewatchmakers.com/ in Essex has added an additional hole in the BB58 clasp for a couple of people. It is covered in either a TRF thread or TZUK. As an alternative you could try it on a RubberB or Vanguard rubber strap custom made for the BB58. I have the latter and wear mine permanently on it.
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Old 19 June 2020, 12:29 AM   #8
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Simon Freese http://www.simonfreesewatchmakers.com/ in Essex has added an additional hole in the BB58 clasp for a couple of people. It is covered in either a TRF thread or TZUK. As an alternative you could try it on a RubberB or Vanguard rubber strap custom made for the BB58. I have the latter and wear mine permanently on it.
Thanks. I already contacted them and he said that he doesn't do this anymore. Incidentally, it does affect the warranty.
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Old 19 June 2020, 12:27 AM   #9
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It’s a problem I have with the 41mm sized Black Bay. It’s a little bit too loose and I like my watches snug. The only other suggestion I can make for you to try is to remove a seemingly unremovable fixed link and use the last adjustment position (loosest) in the clasp.

Here’s the video that shows you how.



Also it’s not an issue with the warranty. The warranty follows the watch, not the name on the car.
Ok, so I've seen this video before, but didn't quite understand it. How is it any different to removing just another link in the watch? Does it give you a few mm extra?
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Old 19 June 2020, 12:44 AM   #10
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Ok, so I've seen this video before, but didn't quite understand it. How is it any different to removing just another link in the watch? Does it give you a few mm extra?

For some people, removing the fixed link and using the outer most adjustment position on the clasp gets them a better fit because it is marginally looser than having the fixed link in and using the innermost adjustment position in the clasp.
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Old 19 June 2020, 11:02 PM   #11
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For some people, removing the fixed link and using the outer most adjustment position on the clasp gets them a better fit because it is marginally looser than having the fixed link in and using the innermost adjustment position in the clasp.
Aren't you just replacing a fixed link with an identically-sized other link though?
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Old 20 June 2020, 12:19 AM   #12
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Aren't you just replacing a fixed link with an identically-sized other link though?

The links are sized the same but the adjustment clasp incremental changes are not. You’re replacing a link with additional length from the clasp adjustment if you are using either the innermost or middle position.
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Old 19 June 2020, 11:41 PM   #13
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For some people, removing the fixed link and using the outer most adjustment position on the clasp gets them a better fit because it is marginally looser than having the fixed link in and using the innermost adjustment position in the clasp.

How does that work? To my eyes the fixed link is necessary for the clasp, right?




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Old 20 June 2020, 12:21 AM   #14
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The fixed link is not really fixed, it’s like any of the other links except the fact that you can remove it is hidden
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Old 20 June 2020, 12:28 AM   #15
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How does that work? To my eyes the fixed link is necessary for the clasp, right?




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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ff16dNFSd4

use a tooth pick or a bobby pin point.
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Old 18 June 2020, 08:32 PM   #16
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I too wear mine exclusively on a NATO now and I think works perfectly on the BB58. Once you wear an oyster bracelet, nothing else compares including the Tudor offering.
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Old 18 June 2020, 08:42 PM   #17
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This was the reason I sold my BB58. I could never get a comfortable fit on my BB58. If Tudor ever fixes this, I will happily buy another one.
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Old 19 June 2020, 12:31 AM   #18
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This was the reason I sold my BB58. I could never get a comfortable fit on my BB58. If Tudor ever fixes this, I will happily buy another one.
I feel you. I sold a Speedmaster Triple Date because of this.
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I hope someone can shed some light on this.
I very recently bought the BB58 on a bracelet and it doesn't quite fit. It's either bit too tight or ridiculously loose. Tudor don't make half links for it, I don't want to wear it on a strap and I don't particularly want to start drilling extra hòles in the clasp to expand from the measly 3 micro adjustments that come OEM, as that would surely void the warranty.
That leaves me with either sourcing an aftermarket strap or somehow engineering a bit of stretch in the bracelet so that it fits better.
Does anyone have any other suggestions?
As a side note, on the warranty, all I have is the store's stamp. My name, address and date of purchase have not been written in. Will I have a problem if I ever need to send it in for repair within the warranty period, which I believe has now been extended to 5 years as standard.
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The link next to the clasp flip lock is removable. Did this on my bb s&g and now fits much more even and better. But i have a smaller wrist.
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Old 19 June 2020, 12:32 AM   #20
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The link next to the clasp flip lock is removable. Did this on my bb s&g and now fits much more even and better. But i have a smaller wrist.
How does this make the bracelet looser? Sorry for my ignorance. My wrists are also very small.
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Old 20 June 2020, 12:26 AM   #21
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How does this make the bracelet looser? Sorry for my ignorance. My wrists are also very small.
it evens the fit out and better centers the clasp on small wrists.

i mean i am not sure on the 58. this was my experience on the bb s&g with a 6.3 to 6.4 inch wrist.
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Old 18 June 2020, 11:40 PM   #22
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I can't speak for the 58, but I own the GMT. Originally I purchased on leather, then later added a steel bracelet. The bracelet whilst well made and finished just wasn't comfortable for me. I guess I had become accustomed to the Omega Seamaster's adjusting clasp, or the Easylink on my 214270.

I picked up a marine nationale strap, a nice nato from Crown & Buckle and a fitted rubber strap from Vanguard which allows integration of the Tudor OEM clasp which came with the leather. I don't normally like switching straps on my watches, but I found the GMT looked better on alternative straps to the bracelet, and was much more comfortable. I'll use the nato/MN and rubber in the summer, and leather in autumn/winter. The steel bracelet has since been sold.

Specifically for the 58, I understand that the Easylink from Rolex fits the clasp which might alleviate some of your fitting issues. I've not tried this myself, but saw a 58 for sale on another forum which had the Easylink fitted.
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Old 19 June 2020, 12:34 AM   #23
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I can't speak for the 58, but I own the GMT. Originally I purchased on leather, then later added a steel bracelet. The bracelet whilst well made and finished just wasn't comfortable for me. I guess I had become accustomed to the Omega Seamaster's adjusting clasp, or the Easylink on my 214270.

I picked up a marine nationale strap, a nice nato from Crown & Buckle and a fitted rubber strap from Vanguard which allows integration of the Tudor OEM clasp which came with the leather. I don't normally like switching straps on my watches, but I found the GMT looked better on alternative straps to the bracelet, and was much more comfortable. I'll use the nato/MN and rubber in the summer, and leather in autumn/winter. The steel bracelet has since been sold.

Specifically for the 58, I understand that the Easylink from Rolex fits the clasp which might alleviate some of your fitting issues. I've not tried this myself, but saw a 58 for sale on another forum which had the Easylink fitted.
An Easylink fits the clasp? Now that is interesting. Bit of an expensive solution though and feel kind of aggrieved that far cheaper watches have factored this in.
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+ regarding your warranty card, it states on the card and in the booklet that the card needs to be completed in full in order for it to be valid. I would call up the AD where you purchased it from and see if you can complete these yourself, or if it needs to be done in store.

In the past I have purchased a Rolex where the sales rep forgot to insert the date. I called and they said I could add this in myself, but to make sure it matched the date on the receipt. I guess there must be a central system which shows when the watches were sold/registered.
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+ regarding your warranty card, it states on the card and in the booklet that the card needs to be completed in full in order for it to be valid. I would call up the AD where you purchased it from and see if you can complete these yourself, or if it needs to be done in store.

In the past I have purchased a Rolex where the sales rep forgot to insert the date. I called and they said I could add this in myself, but to make sure it matched the date on the receipt. I guess there must be a central system which shows when the watches were sold/registered.
Thanks for the insight. I have contacted the AD to see what he suggests.
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Indeed... I bought mine late spring last year.

It is a strap monster though, so I wouldn’t give up on it yet. Mine spends half the time on straps. Here are my favorites:

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Old 19 June 2020, 12:37 AM   #27
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Indeed... I bought mine late spring last year.

It is a strap monster though, so I wouldn’t give up on it yet. Mine spends half the time on straps. Here are my favorites:

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Looks great! I'm just a sucker for a bracelet though.
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Too bad there's no micro adjustment. I really like the look of that watch.
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I hope someone can shed some light on this.
I very recently bought the BB58 on a bracelet and it doesn't quite fit. It's either bit too tight or ridiculously loose. Tudor don't make half links for it, I don't want to wear it on a strap and I don't particularly want to start drilling extra hòles in the clasp to expand from the measly 3 micro adjustments that come OEM, as that would surely void the warranty.
That leaves me with either sourcing an aftermarket strap or somehow engineering a bit of stretch in the bracelet so that it fits better.
Does anyone have any other suggestions?
As a side note, on the warranty, all I have is the store's stamp. My name, address and date of purchase have not been written in. Will I have a problem if I ever need to send it in for repair within the warranty period, which I believe has now been extended to 5 years as standard.
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You hit the nail on the head. For some reason Tudor doesn’t do half links. It’s a ridiculous design and really detracts from wearing Tudors comfortably with that type bracelet. They also could have put a couple more holes in the clasp. That’s why I sold my THC Blue.
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You hit the nail on the head. For some reason Tudor doesn’t do half links. It’s a ridiculous design and really detracts from wearing Tudors comfortably with that type bracelet. They also could have put a couple more holes in the clasp. That’s why I sold my THC Blue.

The Black Bay bracelets don’t have half links. The North Flag however does. It’s also removable to allow for a custom fit.



It’s odd that they didn’t implement half links on the in house Black Bays since they’re released after the NF
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