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24 December 2023, 01:30 AM | #61 | |
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Its more about not wanting to rub the noses of those less fortunate/talented/lucky/wealthy in the simple fact that you are wealthier than they are. Harry Enfield's loadsamoney and considerably richer than you characters nailed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Ku...WG1ecY&index=1 Not everyone has less becase they can't be bothered to better themselves.
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And there’s always the opposite - ‘We were so poor’ sketch
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24 December 2023, 02:09 AM | #64 | |
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Classic inverse snobbery
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In the United Kingdom and throughout the Western world, it depends on where you go: if you go to the poor or infamous neighborhoods, you will feel rich and you might get mugged, while you go uptown you will feel equal or inferior to others and at most you will receive a compliment for your PM Rolex.
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24 December 2023, 02:51 AM | #67 |
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I feel bad for the UK, if these are the types of decisions that are keeping you up at night. First of all, nobody knows a white gold watch is even gold. Wear what the hell you want. Free country, I think!
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24 December 2023, 02:58 AM | #68 | |
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If you celebrate success then good for that person. You don’t think in terms like, “Wow that guy is rubbing his success in my face.” It’s a very similar mentality to me, they’re two sides of the same coin. Of course I don’t live there, I only work with people there and visit. As with everything it depends on where you’re at. I would and have worn my PM YG pieces to work here and nobody ever said anything unless they know about watches. TBH I’d also wear in the UK if I wasn’t concerned about it getting ripped off my wrist |
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But that in itself is sort of smug and comes off as being arrogant and having an inflated sense of self. “I don’t want to upset all the peons and lower class people, so I won’t wear a gold watch.” Seriously? Doesn’t that sound terrible? If you believe everyone is equal and you treat everyone as an equal, then you don’t have any such thoughts. Someone mentioned above that the US and UK cultures are very different. I believe this to be true. In the UK, they have a much more rigid class structure that goes back centuries. In the US, it’s much more fluid. We just don’t think like that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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24 December 2023, 03:25 AM | #71 | |
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Ahh. But you are looking at it as an American. So you see it differently. It’s neither smug nor arrogant. Our cultures are often miles apart. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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24 December 2023, 03:39 AM | #72 | |
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That is true. I never have to worry about it because I never see myself as being more superior, wealthy, lucky, etc. I’m just one of the plebs. So it’s a non-issue for many of us. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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24 December 2023, 03:53 AM | #73 | |
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You’re not fully understanding it though. It’s definitely not about superiority. Those who consider themselves superior wouldn’t care about how other people felt. And they are often the ones who make a huge deal out of ensuring their steel subs are on full display at all times. Those are the Harry Enfield characters in real life. It’s a complex society in the UK. Heck, each of the 4 countries are quite different in many ways. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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24 December 2023, 04:31 AM | #75 |
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UK - is it acceptable to wear a full gold Rolex?
No. Although I follow the logic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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24 December 2023, 04:33 AM | #76 |
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Again, you’re reading that from a different perspective. No it doesn’t. Because it isn’t. It’s an understanding and an acknowledgement. Those differences exist in life. And that’s what they are. Differences. None of those things make anyone better than anyone else. Or certainly shouldn’t (although I do appreciate that some people do consider themselves better than others because of what they have/do etc) I’m not going to flaunt a £40k watch in front of someone for whom £40k would be life changing. That would be an insensitive thing to do. Do you guys use the word “crass”? That’s the best word for it. That’s not about having a superiority complex. Quite the opposite, it’s being respectful. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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24 December 2023, 05:07 AM | #77 | |
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In the U.S., there is definitely a subculture of wealthy people who like to act like regular folks….drive a Honda, dress like a hippie, fly under the radar.
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Agreed. Also in the UK. On my 911 I’ll wear my Casio, Bamford Snoopy, or MoonSwatch. On my 10 year old Evoque I’ll wear whatever I like… On the tube I’ll prob wear any plastic watch these days… :) |
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24 December 2023, 05:20 AM | #79 | |
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Have you ever been to the UK? I would humbly suggest that in the US shows of wealth are far more normalised than in the UK. But I actually like that because there is no sense of guilt, success is success. Not the same here. The best example I can give is that we don’t call sales people sales people, they’re account directors, or client services consultants… because being in sales is crass, the idea that you earn commission is considered distasteful… why should you earn more money than someone in say customer service? Whereas being a VP is sales in the US is a big deal, and incentive based pay and things like incentive trips are far more the norm. All of that is considered distasteful, crass, unbecoming… don’t be flash, don’t be ostentatious… it’s not the dome thing. Being someone who works in both the US and the UK for a US company, and travels there multiple times a year, I can tell you there is a difference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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UK born and bred.......I'll wear my DD 18238 on any day I want.....Its not about wearing it, but how you wear it. Under the cuff 90% of the time and no one notices. 10% of the time in full show (summer), just be aware of your surroundings.
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I find this all very interesting….by the way, in the U.S., the most common term for a sales rep is “account executive” . People in the U.S. are often ridiculed for bragging about their success on social media, and often get comments from the “must be nice” crowd if they drive an expensive EUROPEAN car. Might not be as different as you think….
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Just to jump in to the middle of this most interesting of debate - London is not in any way representative of the rest of the UK. Just making an assumption that is where people are most likely to visit from the US on work trips. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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24 December 2023, 06:13 AM | #84 | |
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In my experience, the sentence, “That’s not in my remit.” sums it up for me. It’s much more rare to hear someone in the US say that. If you went up to the janitor in a building in the US and asked them for help with something they’ll probably try to help you. They’re not going to say, “That’s not my job.” Maybe they don’t view themselves as a janitor; it’s not their identity. Instead it’s something they’re doing today and maybe tomorrow they’re doing something better. In addition hierarchy and title seem to mean a lot more to them The impression I get is they feel they shouldn’t overstep their role. Unfortunately overstepping your position is how you gain experience and grow. So my impression is, when someone steps out without being ordained, they’re knocked back down. Only with it being “official” is it ok. In the US I think all of that matters way less or it just doesn’t happen; but obviously it depends exactly where you’re at. |
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Really interesting cultural-difference thread.
It's made me realise something. We've heard forever that white gold flies, "Under the radar," because those who don't know, will dismiss it as steel. I've always just accepted that. And it's fine. If you like white gold, that's great. But if you're buying white gold to fly under the radar, but you actually want yellow gold but don't think it's acceptable to wear it, then that's a little ... not sad but ... unfortunate. |
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As for wearing full gold , good luck as yiu will get mugged for it wherever you go
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Interesting question. I’m in the UK and would feel uncomfortable wearing a yellow gold Rolex. However I don’t know why. I think it’s just not a watch that would fit my personality or maybe confidence with Rolexes. I’ve been tempted with the Tudor BB 58 Bronze and other gold watches that are in the Rolex price bracket. I don’t see many expensive yellow Gold watches often but when I do, I don’t recall ever thinking bad of the watch or the person wearing it because of the watch. From a safety point of view I’ve never felt unsafe wearing a Rolex. If in London I’m more careful than in other parts of UK but I don’t think wearing a gold Rolex would make me feel any less secure
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About to unsubscribe from my own post before people post photos of King George 3rd, George Washington and the Stars and Stripes.
But a point to note, some people should read the original post which was NOT about whether wearing a white gold watch was socially acceptable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Also, I’m from the UK and have worked in sales for 20 years, but hey what do I know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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24 December 2023, 08:17 AM | #90 |
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Maybe you could wear it like the pocket watch in pulp fiction? I believe that was also gold.
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