Howcome the Chopard Alpine Eagle Gold costs more then a DayDate40?

[buddenfan]

Gorgeous watch but retails almost $20k more then the DayDate40

[MILGAUSS88]

Higher end brand than Rolex.
Their steel models are more expensive than similar Rolex as well.

[agsstructures]

meh

[buddenfan]

Originally Posted by MILGAUSS88

Higher end brand than Rolex.
Their steel models are more expensive than similar Rolex as well.

Really? I always thought of Chopard is a mid tier brand along the lines of a Breitling and Panerai

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by buddenfan

Really? I always thought of Chopard is a mid tier brand along the lines of a Breitling and Panerai

No, between Rolex and Patek. They make complications and finish there movements to different levels. They have some very high end watches, not just the Alpine Eagle.

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by buddenfan

Really? I always thought of Chopard is a mid tier brand along the lines of a Breitling and Panerai

High end Chopards meet and beat Pateks. Take for example their minute repeaters.

[vitalsigns]

Originally Posted by kunlun

High end Chopards meet and beat Pateks. Take for example their minute repeaters.

Chopard minute repeaters are better than Patek minute repeaters? In what way?

Patek is rightly known as *the* MR specialist and its MRs are consistently the very best sounding.

[agriculture&watches]

For me this Chopard with this dial is a killer. I love the finish and the details on the dial.

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by vitalsigns

Chopard minute repeaters are better than Patek minute repeaters? In what way?

Patek is rightly known as *the* MR specialist and its MRs are consistently the very best sounding.

You can wear the Chopard MR on a rainy day, for one. Most MRs have Zero watch resistance, including the new ones from Patek.

Chopard uses sapphire gongs and they sound magnificent. So, yes, meeting and beating Patek.

[Pw92676]

Msrp is what manufacturer thinks it’s worth. Market price is what market thinks it’s worth. Lots of watches have msrp and market prices that I disagree with.

[vitalsigns]

Originally Posted by kunlun

You can wear the Chopard MR on a rainy day, for one. Most MRs have Zero watch resistance, including the new ones from Patek.

Chopard uses sapphire gongs and they sound magnificent. So, yes, meeting and beating Patek.

Didn't know water resistance was ever a factor in evaluating MRs, but anyone can have their own criteria, I guess. WR wouldn't be in my top 10 criteria for a MR, nor most any other collector I've heard from. But we all have our own preferences.

The Chopard does sound terrific, but I don't think Chopard can beat Patek's long history of MR excellence.

[mikea]

I love this watch, not enough to buy it though. I would put the AE easily at the AP level!

[RolexBHR]

I have the steel AE and it trumps my Rolex's in finishing in every aspect all day.

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by vitalsigns

Didn't know water resistance was ever a factor in evaluating MRs, but anyone can have their own criteria, I guess. WR wouldn't be in my top 10 criteria for a MR, nor most any other collector I've heard from. But we all have our own preferences.

The Chopard does sound terrific, but I don't think Chopard can beat Patek's long history of MR excellence.

Oh, you're right, I forgot that some people don't wear their watches!

Of course, wearability wouldn't even be on the radar of such collectors. And people can do as they like.

While wearing a watch may be surprising to you, there are people who buy watches to enjoy them on the wrist.

MRs have NO water resistance, this means tropical, humid weather over time, or wearing on a rainy day, is not good for a MR. A watchmaker who works on these watches confirmed for me he sees moisture damage to MRs, even from humid weather over time. A rep for a high end brand even suggested using desiccants inside whatever case or safe one uses to store one's watches. I do that and it seems quite reasonable.

Chopard's MR delivers excellent, patek-equalling or beating sound and you can actually wear the watch every day if you like! AP's Super Sonnerie MRs are similar in this factor of wearability and they also have very nice sound.

I think watchmakers intend for their watches to be worn and I would encourage collectors to wear them--I think people who don't are missing out on a nice experience. But I respect people who think differently, there's room for everyone.

[F131F]

Originally Posted by RolexBHR

I have the steel AE and it trumps my Rolex's in finishing in every aspect all day.

I agree...

[Guppydriver]

Originally Posted by F131F

I agree...

Well...

This is no ordinary AE!

L.U.C movement is spectacular. The lucent steel, salmon dial, and "no date" make this watch incredibly special.

You have tremendous taste.

[vitalsigns]

Originally Posted by kunlun

Oh, you're right, I forgot that some people don't wear their watches!

Of course, wearability wouldn't even be on the radar of such collectors. And people can do as they like.

While wearing a watch may be surprising to you, there are people who buy watches to enjoy them on the wrist.

MRs have NO water resistance, this means tropical, humid weather over time, or wearing on a rainy day, is not good for a MR. A watchmaker who works on these watches confirmed for me he sees moisture damage to MRs, even from humid weather over time. A rep for a high end brand even suggested using desiccants inside whatever case or safe one uses to store one's watches. I do that and it seems quite reasonable.

Chopard's MR delivers excellent, patek-equalling or beating sound and you can actually wear the watch every day if you like! AP's Super Sonnerie MRs are similar in this factor of wearability and they also have very nice sound.

I think watchmakers intend for their watches to be worn and I would encourage collectors to wear them--I think people who don't are missing out on a nice experience. But I respect people who think differently, there's room for everyone.

Bizarrely aggressive response.

Ok, dude, we can now end the silly debate over personal preferences

[F131F]

Originally Posted by Guppydriver

Well... This is no ordinary AE! L.U.C movement is spectacular. The lucent steel, salmon dial, and "no date" make this watch incredibly special. You have tremendous taste.

Thank you! The "ordinary" versions are very nice too but I specifically chose this one for the thinner case, thinner bezel and no date. The LUC movement was a bonus...

[buddenfan]

Originally Posted by kunlun

Oh, you're right, I forgot that some people don't wear their watches!

Of course, wearability wouldn't even be on the radar of such collectors. And people can do as they like.

While wearing a watch may be surprising to you, there are people who buy watches to enjoy them on the wrist.

MRs have NO water resistance, this means tropical, humid weather over time, or wearing on a rainy day, is not good for a MR. A watchmaker who works on these watches confirmed for me he sees moisture damage to MRs, even from humid weather over time. A rep for a high end brand even suggested using desiccants inside whatever case or safe one uses to store one's watches. I do that and it seems quite reasonable.

Chopard's MR delivers excellent, patek-equalling or beating sound and you can actually wear the watch every day if you like! AP's Super Sonnerie MRs are similar in this factor of wearability and they also have very nice sound.

I think watchmakers intend for their watches to be worn and I would encourage collectors to wear them--I think people who don't are missing out on a nice experience. But I respect people who think differently, there's room for everyone.

Never understood why people buy watches to lock them up in a safe somewhere

[agriculture&watches]

Originally Posted by F131F

I agree...

Amazing watch overall but the dial is the king here for me. Love it

[buddenfan]

Originally Posted by F131F

I agree...

Gorgeous watch but the bezel reminds me a bit if a Hublot. Wish they made this in 38-39mm

[rockysw]

The finsihing on alpine eagle is certainly better than rolex but that doesnt justify the price difference in my view.

I think they just want to position them selves at a higher price point. Although my guess would be this difference will be much smaller in secondary market.