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29 March 2019, 09:56 AM | #1 |
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Dating a speed master professional
This speedmaster for sale locally has a Schumacher caseback and I have never seen any schumachers with this dial.. it has a manual wind movement. Is it an older watch with a newer caseback or was this swapped into the case.
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29 March 2019, 12:33 PM | #2 |
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It’s the wrong caseback , and it’s the wrong dial and bezel for that case too. Basically, it’s a parts-build watch.
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29 March 2019, 01:24 PM | #3 |
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29 March 2019, 09:03 PM | #4 |
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Any idea on the dial and bezels age? Seems like Speedmaster cases aren’t outrageously expensive. The watch is definitely attractive in price(roughly $1,500) although the chrono hand doesn’t reset to zero, and it’s got the case issue. I just assumed they swapped out caseback, didn’t realize it was swapped into a new case as well
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29 March 2019, 09:25 PM | #5 | |
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The dial and bezel are contemporary, so they might be worth a few hundred each. Non-stepped (flat/domed) dials were introduced in the mid-1970s, with a the DNN bezel introduced in the early-1970. None of that is to say those are that old in this watch, as they could be from just a few weeks ago. The case is the oldest bit, as these straight lug cases were only made until about 1967, although typically older. That is provided it is genuine. |
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29 March 2019, 11:25 PM | #6 |
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Gives me a place to start at least. Can only hope the dial and bezel end up being period correct for the movement. Although it appears pretty much any parts I would need to make it period correct no matter what it ends up being are out there, and far more common than vintage Rolex parts
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29 March 2019, 11:32 PM | #7 | |
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Just looked again, and the dial is earlier than the late-1990s, so I think 1975 to 1995 is the target range. |
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30 March 2019, 07:06 AM | #8 |
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From what I was reading it was saying 69-90. Pretty broad range. I will hopefully have the watch home within the next few days to look at. I think it’s probably a straight lug case with an 321 from what I can remember from briefly looking at it. Will likely just source a period correct Caseback, and wear it as is. The dial is attractive and I didn’t realize it was a straight lug. Seems like more than a fair price judging by parts value on eBay.
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3 April 2019, 10:25 AM | #9 |
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Movement is a 321, despite being a franken watch I have a feeling the dial and hands are older and that it probably just had a cheap caseback put on when the original was lost or something. I think the next move is to get some extract papers
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3 April 2019, 10:34 AM | #10 |
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SN dates the movement to 63
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3 April 2019, 10:55 AM | #11 |
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That's certainly pre-moon vintage! This is a curved-lug model that just barely makes the age cut.
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