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Old 16 July 2021, 09:47 PM   #31
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Back when preowned universally traded below MSRP except for the Daytona, TT did not hold their value as well as stainless. The premiums on TT now lag the stainless, by and large. However, my recollection is the TT Sub has always been the strongest, as far as TT relatively, in holding its value. I just bought a TT Daytona new. My first TT. I think that TT has improved as a result of the stainless shortages and a reimurgence of popularity. For a while it was an old person’s watch, eighties if you will.
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Old 16 July 2021, 09:54 PM   #32
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The “no date” Sub doesn’t come in TT. Only SS.
Cheers mate, I now know what to expect on the day!
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Old 16 July 2021, 10:04 PM   #33
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Cheers mate, I now know what to expect on the day!
My daily is a 116613LN. You’re gonna love the TT Sub.
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Old 16 July 2021, 10:15 PM   #34
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My daily is a 116613LN. You’re gonna love the TT Sub.
Thank you, I feel like a bit of a tit. We've done a lot in a short period of time on Rolex but to order a watch and not really check whether its a date or not.... They are all staying in the family regardless and I hope to have my kids wearing before i'm dead. :)
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Old 16 July 2021, 11:29 PM   #35
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The “no date” Sub doesn’t come in TT. Only SS.
That wait might be longer than SS Daytona…
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Old 17 July 2021, 09:04 AM   #36
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Fairly new to rolex. I have an opportunity to purchase a tt rolex sub 126613LN from ad. Is this a good buy? I hear that two tones are not as good. what is so bad about two tones?
Seems like it is hard to get any rolex nowadays. Is this piece easy to come by?
Great watch in blue dial. Waste of money in black IMHO.
Two tone means gold and gold is always better than steal. Always.
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Old 17 July 2021, 10:17 AM   #37
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As Gertrude Stein might have said, if she were into watches...

A Rolex is a Rolex is a Rolex.

As others have posted, if you like the watch and can afford it, go for it. Obviously, it's "as good" as any other Submariner, mechanically speaking. Some like the two tone look, some don't. All that matters, as the potential buyer, is what you really like. Only your aesthetic taste matters in this case, not ours.

I'd always advise against buying a certain model simply because it's available. If you'd really, truly, prefer the stainless steel Submariner, or Submariner Date, then hold out for the watch you prefer.
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Old 17 July 2021, 10:25 AM   #38
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Page 2 and no photos yet? Damn click bait.
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Old 17 July 2021, 10:31 AM   #39
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Old 18 July 2021, 03:11 AM   #40
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As everyone says, you buy it if you want to wear it. I spoke to a number of AD's in Scotland and was advised that they were not taking any mores names for s/s Sub's. I have my name down for a Rolsor (2 tone) Sub no date with an AD. I hope to hear in around a year.

In the interim i bought an older no date s/s sub and love it. My wife chose a Rolsor Explorer which we picked up a couple of days ago from the AD and it is absolutely gorgeous. It is literally a stunning watch, I think they may have changed the metallurgy of the gold as back in the day Rolsor could be quite garish. Not now, styles change. Micro tweaks are made and you end up with a completely different look.

My advice to you is to buy the watch offered, its a beautiful bit of kit, enjoy wearing it. I have mild envy as i've a bit of a wait. Well done Sir! :)
You are waiting for a TT no date sub??? You will be waiting a very long time. Rolex don’t make it
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Old 18 July 2021, 07:04 AM   #41
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Yeah, got that update yesterday on this very thread, cheers though, a nice thought!
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Old 20 July 2021, 08:47 PM   #42
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Old 20 July 2021, 09:43 PM   #43
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This was what was offered. Seems like it is hard to get any rolex nowadays. Is this piece easy to come by?
Does it matter if it's "easy to come by"?

Unless you're a world-class, infallible psychic, you should only buy any watch if you like it and want to own/wear it. Buying for any other reason is a potential recipe for disaster.
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Old 21 July 2021, 01:11 AM   #44
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Don't think you can go wrong with any Rolex Model. All will retain its value and definitely will go up over time.
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Old 21 July 2021, 03:08 AM   #45
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I love TT, and just bought Bluesy. It will hold value but NOT the reason to buy the watch. More specific to the question, in Denmark the TT black Sub is trading (gray) closest to list price, ie Bluesy at gray more expensive to buy. Is that useful for an offer on the TT black Sub? I think not. Best of luck. Follow your heart, not the brain.


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Old 21 July 2021, 03:12 AM   #46
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Buy it if it’s the watch you want (to wear). I did with the CHNR; love the aesthetics of the watch, don’t care about what is more or less popular or holds value better. I bought it because I love it!


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Old 21 July 2021, 04:49 AM   #47
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Buy a watch because you want to love wearing it, not because of investment potential.
In fact, investment talk is against the forum rules.
See Forum Rule #4, sub-heading (iv) as follows:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=635693
I don't think OP is talking about investment; he wonders how much the Submariner will cost him.

We all know that steel sports Rolexes are free. He was simply wondering if it was the same with two-tone.
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Old 21 July 2021, 05:16 AM   #48
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Old 21 July 2021, 05:18 AM   #49
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I LOVE TT! Buy it and love it!
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Old 21 July 2021, 05:53 AM   #50
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It's the first Rolex watch to make me start my watch collection :)
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Old 21 July 2021, 05:55 AM   #51
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Old 21 July 2021, 06:45 AM   #52
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Buy a watch because you want to love wearing it, not because of investment potential.
In fact, investment talk is against the forum rules.
See Forum Rule #4, sub-heading (iv) as follows:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=635693
At no part of the OPs post did he mention investment. Come down off the forum high horse and stop unnecessarily bashing.

Is it a good buy?

Well it’s not as sought after as the SS Sub, because it’s traditionally seen as a tool divers watch. However, in this day and age a Rolex is probably rarely bought as a diving instrument and more so as a luxury timepiece that serves as jewellery.

So taking from this a further “enhancement” would be TT and then full gold.

But TT kinda holds a no mans land position as the SS has held to its “roots” of professional timepiece and the all gold holds true luxury status.

It all comes down to perception really. If you like. You buy. If you don’t then don’t.

Asking if it’s worth it, well in other words
Will you recoup your money? Past and current market trends would suggest you probably break even on TT. But the future may be different. Gold may get to such a high value that it’s used less and less, pushing prices of TT up. Who knows.

You’ll probably not lose and you probably won’t gain. Don’t treat like an asset and only spend what you’re comfortable to not think about.
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Old 21 July 2021, 10:37 AM   #53
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I just bought the same watch and its my daily. It is a beautiful watch and I love it. In my opinion it will increase in value and be higher than msrp moving forward.
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Old 21 July 2021, 11:05 AM   #54
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Old 21 July 2021, 02:42 PM   #55
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Fairly new to rolex. I have an opportunity to purchase a tt rolex sub 126613LN from ad. Is this a good buy? I hear that two tones are not as good. what is so bad about two tones?
Seems like it is hard to get any rolex nowadays. Is this piece easy to come by?
Any Rolex outside of a Datejust is hard to get right now. Will that always be the case, doubtful but for now it is.

I love my TT. Great weight, like the flash. I have both SS and full PM models.

I think it will hold its value and would be a fine buy. I don’t think you lose on the trade in/up.
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Old 21 July 2021, 03:00 PM   #56
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Fairly new to rolex. I have an opportunity to purchase a tt rolex sub 126613LN from ad. Is this a good buy? I hear that two tones are not as good. what is so bad about two tones?
Seems like it is hard to get any rolex nowadays. Is this piece easy to come by?
I pulled the trigger on a 116613lb as my first rolex. It's a good piece, but it shines too much, so later down the line I sold it. Value wise it will not yield you as much as the stainless steel model, but I got 15% when I sold it (Didn't get it from an ad/boutique)
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Old 21 July 2021, 10:05 PM   #57
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I personally prefer watches other than TT but that’s a completely subjective thing. I have friends who won’t buy anything but a TT.

As noted repeatedly, if you will enjoy wearing it buy it. If in the coming years you decide that you are tired of it, it’s a Sub. It will be in demand.
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Old 22 July 2021, 12:36 AM   #58
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Since 1965, when I fell in love with Rolex, I have owned Air-King and other Datejust models, all made of steel, and I can reliably assure that I always chose them for the beauty of their models and not as an investment. And it was never a great deal because when selling it we always end up doing it with a gray market buyer and it is almost impossible to get a face to face to defend your capital a little more. No one is going to send a large amount of money to someone they don't know and wait for the right amount to arrive ... if it arrives ...
At least that's my experience of almost 57 years with this topic.
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Old 22 July 2021, 12:36 AM   #59
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Since 1965, when I fell in love with Rolex, I have owned Air-King and other Datejust models, all made of steel, and I can reliably assure that I always chose them for the beauty of their models and not as an investment. And it was never a great deal because when selling it we always end up doing it with a gray market buyer and it is almost impossible to get a face to face to defend your capital a little more. No one is going to send a large amount of money to someone they don't know and wait for the right amount to arrive ... if it arrives ...
At least that's my experience of almost 57 years with this topic.
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