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Not a Patek guy, but this is magnificent.
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This is actually much better than the original contribution IMO.
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I have put in online bids for both the Sylvain Pinaud Origine and Auffret + Petermann Bedat collaboration. Hopefully it goes well but if not, charity wins.
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Both are amazing but that Sylvain Pinaud Origine is the one I’d really go after if I had the money. Hope you get the winning bid!
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Ahh I totally forgot you were already getting a Origine. In that case I hope you get the PB/Auffret. It would be a killer addition to any collection.
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Unfortunately I did not get the watch I wanted but this is good for charity though. Some selected results below (all in CHF and hammer price only):
Patek 6301A - 15.7m Richard Mille - 2.38m Rexhep Rexhepi - 2.1m Journe - 2m LV - 700k Kari - 450k Krayon - 440k Moser/MB&F - 380k PB/Auffret - 240k Sylvain Pinaud - 220k Gerald Genta - 170k Furlan Marri - 130k Atelier Chronometrie - 115k Chaykin - 110k Laurent Ferrier - 110k |
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Hi everyone, probably a strange post for someone new, but I‘ve been reading for a longer time. Just to add my 2 cents: A few watches might have underperformed, because the christies website was down during the auction and bidding through Christies Live wasn‘t possible. I had registered to bid via Christies live and wanted to see the performance of several watches to maybe bid on them. I was forced to bid via telephone because the website was down and so I chose the the two watches I was most interested in before the auction. I sadly didn‘t get one, but seeing some of the weaker results of the evening, I would‘ve probably made a higher bid for one of them via christies live.
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I've always wondered if in some countries the delta between "appraised value" and what it actually goes for can be considered a tax deduction to a charity?
For example, if a piece is estimated to go for $50k by the charity and sells for $150k instead, can some people claim a $100,000 donation? In the US, there's something similar with art where if you buy it and have it appraised at a higher value, you pocket the difference in imaginary donated $, it's pretty cool. If so, it changes the math a lot for some bidders. |
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Also wow, the lederer only went for 45k chf. It was probably one of my favorites.
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What happened to the Only Watch controversy. Has that all disappeared? Has there been anymore clarity as to what happened and how it might have been resolved?
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1. Angelus x Château Angelus
Estimated price: CHF 50,000 – 60,000 Sold for: CHF 70,000 2. ArtyA Estimated price: CHF 40,000 – 50,000 Sold for: CHF 55,000 3. Atelier de Chronométrie Estimated price: CHF 50,000 – 70,000 Sold for: CHF 115,000 4. Baltic Estimated price: CHF 20,000 – 30,000 Sold for: CHF 55,000 5. Barbier Muller Estimated price: CHF 150,000 – 250,000 Sold for: CHF 240,000 6. Bell & Ross Estimated price: CHF 45,000 – 55,000 Sold for: CHF 55,000 7. Blancpain Estimated price: CHF 20,000 – 30,000 Sold for: CHF 45,000 8. Bovet 1822 Estimated price: CHF 52,000 – 65,000 Sold for: CHF 110,000 9. Breguet Estimated price: CHF 70,000 – 80,000 Sold for: CHF 75,000 10. Bulgari Estimated price: CHF 150,000 – 250,000 Sold for: CHF 190,000 11. Chanel Estimated price: CHF 40,000 – 50,000 Sold for: CHF 65,000 12. Czapek Genève Estimated price: CHF 80,000 – 100,000 Sold for: CHF 85,000 13. F. P. Journe Estimated price: CHF 200,000 – 400,000 Selling price: CHF 2,000,000 14. Frederique Constant x Christiaan v.d. Klaauw Estimated price: CHF 90,000 – 110,000 Sold for: CHF 85,000 15. Furlan Marri Estimated price: CHF 20'000 – 30,000 Sold for: CHF 130,000 16. Gérald Genta Estimated price: CHF 350,000 – 500,000 Sold for: CHF 170,000 17. Grönefeld Estimated price: CHF 55,000 – 65,000 Sold for: CHF 140,000 18. H. Moser X MB&F Estimated price: CHF 300,000 – 400,000 Sold for: CHF 380,000 19. Hermès Estimated price: CHF 30,000 – 40,000 Sold for: CHF 60,000 20. Hublot Estimated price: CHF 350,000 – 400,000 Sold for: CHF 420,000 21. Jaquet Droz Estimated price: CHF 250,000 – 300,000 Sold for: CHF 150,000 22. Konstantin Chaykin Estimated price: CHF 30,000 – 50,000 Sold for: CHF 110,000 23. Krayon Estimated price: CHF 150,000 – 250,000 Sold for: CHF 440,000 24. Laurent Ferrier Estimated price: CHF 55,000 – 85,000 Sold for: CHF 100,000 25. Lederer Estimated price: CHF 100,000 – 200,000 Sold for: CHF 45,000 26. Louis Moinet Estimated price: CHF 80,000 – 120,000 Sold for: CHF 110,000 27. Louis Vuitton Estimated price: CHF 340,000 – 440,000 Sold for: CHF 700,000 28. Ludovic Ballouard x Brittany Nicole Cox Estimated price: CHF 60,000 – 90,000 Sold for: CHF 100,000 29. Maurice Lacroix Estimated price: CHF 25,000 – 35,000 Sold for: CHF 28,000 30. Montblanc Estimated price: CHF 25,000 – 35,000 Sold for: CHF 22,000 31. Moritz Grossmann Estimated price: CHF 30,000 – 45,000 Sold for: CHF 88,000 32. Patek Philippe Estimated price: CHF 1,500,000 – 1,800,000 Sold for: CHF 15,700,000 33. Petermann Bédat x Auffret Paris Estimated price: CHF 50,000 – 100,000 Sold for: CHF 240,000 34. Piaget Estimated price: CHF 50,000 – 80,000 Sold for: CHF 100,000 35. Reservoir X Télôs Watch Estimated price: CHF 50,000 – 60,000 Sold for: CHF 55,000 36. Ressence Estimated price: CHF 20,000 – 30,000 Sold for: CHF 70,000 37. Rexhep Rexhepi Estimated price: CHF 100,000 – 150,000 Sold for: CHF 2,100,000 38. Richard Mille Estimated price: CHF 600,000 – 800,000 Sold for: CHF 2,380,000 39. Singer Reimagined x Genus Estimated price: CHF 100,000 – 120,000 Sold for: CHF 100,000 40. Speake Marin Estimated price: CHF 35,000 – 65,000 Sold for: CHF 45,000 41. Sylvain Pinaud Estimated price: CHF 70,000 – 100,000 Sold for: CHF 220,000 42. TAG Heuer Estimated price: CHF 150,000 – 300,000 Sold for: CHF 110,000 43. Tiffany & Co. Estimated price: CHF 350,000 – 500,000 Sold for: CHF 120,000 44. Trilobe Estimated price: CHF 25,000 – 35,000 Sold for: CHF 17,000 45. Urwerk Estimated price: CHF 45,000 – 80,000 Sold for: CHF 65,000 46. Voutilainen Estimated price: CHF 175,000 – 215,000 Sold for: CHF 450,000 47. Zenith Estimated price: CHF 45,000 – 55,000 Sold for: CHF 110,000 https://en.worldtempus.com/article/profiles/interview-alain-delamuraz-jaquet-droz-78187.html Zach bought the Patek. |
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I congratulated Gaël, Florian and Sylvain Pinaud following the auction and they were very happy with the results. There was indeed an online issue at Christie's and that could affect the results one way or another.
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The christies website is still down. Seems to be a bigger problem. As I saw the website degrading over time, it seems like a hack or virus to me. But that‘s just a guess. I just hope my personal data didn‘t get leaked.
It‘s been my first auction of the kind ever, so it was still a fun experience. I followed the live stream on youtube (which of course had delay, so my phone bidding wasn‘t in sync with the stream). I went in not expecting to get a watch, as I know that there‘s a certain type of bidders willing to spend much more on these than I am, if they really want a watch. On one of the lots I actually went into a 1 vs 1 bidding „war“ at the end, but was the one to drop out. The price was way above estimate, so I do not have regrets passing on it. On the other hand I asked myself afterwards, if he would‘ve dropped out, if I would‘ve raised just one more time, haha. What I‘m really sad about is the trilobe. It wasn‘t my favorite watch of the show, but I would have bid more than the 17k it achieved and it came up after the lots I was interested in, so I would‘ve known of not getting those at the time of bidding. |
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Imagine you bought the RM and could’ve had the Rexhep and 280k to spare. I always find it interesting what people are drawn to at auction vs what my poor self would buy in the same lot with similar money.
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"Due to the questions that prompted the postponement, Only Watch has completed a financial audit and revised the structure and governance of their organization." https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/on...ay-2024-update The auditors' reports for 2021, 2022 and 2023 could be found in the link below. They are performed by Grant Thornton and were issued with a clean opinion (except in 2021, there was a draw to attention due to absence of impairment of advance to subsi EUR 5.2m, but still considered clean opinion), though I'm not sure what Santa Laura LLP would have opined if the audit is done by him instead. https://onlyproject.org/audit-report...023-2022-2021/ |
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This. It's beyond me that folks are willing to pony up this kind of cash for a piece of tr*sh like this RM - or frankly any other RM. My favourite of the lot was the MB&F vs Moser collab. One of the coolest watches I have seen in a long long time.
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If you’re a billionaire a couple M is not a significant amount of money. It’s like you buying a $100 Casio
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The Chinese kid who bought the 5711 Tiffany at auction for 5M more than it’s worth today. He’s a real savant lol
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I don't follow him on IG because he seemed like a feminine hygiene product at times, but any tea on how santa laura took the OW auction? |
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I stopped following Santa Laura. Between him and watch falcon idk who has the more punchable face. I’d like to know where all the people claiming FPJs imminent demise went? They made it seem like only watch was up there with Epstein island and now a few CPA checks later everything is good to go lol
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