Rolex manufacturing defect ? AD says it’s not fake .

[Nightdate]

As long as it is not a fake who cares. It is not even visible.
However, you took a microscope to it. That makes me think return it, this will eat at you forever.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by ThatSubGuy

Might not be a fake, but those imperfections looked at under a microscope will clearly have other people think it's fake.

Wouldn't wear that in public tbh, I understand your concerns. Send it to a RSC and have them fix it, embarrassing for Rolex.

No its embarrassing that some need to look at any watch through a microscope then report on forum about high magnified minuscule so called defects by the member. Just hope the original posting member dont start buying phone timing apps, and develop the deadly {CCTS},constant checking time syndrome.And will add who the hell is going to walk around with a microscope, to check on anyone's watch not being genuine, for these so called high magnification defects.

[Nightdate]

Originally Posted by G.Montag

Is that a spec of dust on the 8 in 18?

Haha!
Also I think the alignment of the 2 on the 12 at the base is out. the 12 is off centre….travesty!

[mikkolopez]

I remember the days when a watch is as good as the time it tells. Now it has to be microscopically perfect.


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[Psmith]

Originally Posted by brnalkn

Its handmade,normal.

It's not handmade, but 'flaws' are pretty normal.
Every Rolex I've owned has had them - some quite awful.

If you want something closer to perfection then, yes, head over to Grand Seiko

[fmc000]

I have read the original post a few times and I am still unconvinced that it's not all a joke.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by fmc000

I have read the original post a few times and I am still unconvinced that it's not all a joke.

Well the TRF is getting to be a bit of a joke lately, especially reading many of the posts in the Rolex watch forum.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by SearChart

These are no quality control issues, these are OCD issues.

Not a single RSC will ever help you with this under 'warranty', put the loupe away, take a deep breath and just enjoy your new watch.

100% ^

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by G.Montag

Is that a spec of dust on the 8 in 18?

#awkward...

[Eric-London]

Originally Posted by Daniel2020

Hi

I just bought a 116610Ln from a website . The watch was first bought in Italy one month ago. I have been looking on the watch with a microscope for two days and found some defects . I’ve noticed a black dot on the 16:00 Dial , 3 dots on the edge of the glass (past and after 18:00 , and before 12:00) . I’ve also noticed à Particle of dust on number 2 in 23 in the date and the symmetry on number 5 in 25 . I took this watch to an AD and they claim that the watch is real and not fake . But they can’t promise me that they can fix these defects . They didn’t want to help me first . But when I said that I can pay for a functional test of the watch they said that they could look at it . They now tell me that the watch is real but they don’t know if they could fix these defects. Shouldn’t they send the watch to Rolex for a warranty claim ? Shouldn’t I be able to get it fixed for free ? I have 5 years left on the warranty . Have anybody seen or heard of defects like this on a real watch ?

You've got too much time on your hands.

[Johnpierpontmorgan]

Lol I quote this guy: I have been looking on the watch with a microscope for two days and found some defects.


Two days using microscope.




Get a fking life



Is this where civilisation is heading next?

[Swiss Mad!]

As my Granny used to say.. 'A blind man on a galloping horse will never notice it...'

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Johnpierpontmorgan

Lol I quote this guy: I have been looking on the watch with a microscope for two days and found some defects.


Two days using microscope.




Get a fking life



Is this where civilisation is heading next?

No need for profane language even if disguised you will not be warned again next time you will have a infraction.

[Harry-57]

A microscope? You need a microscope to look at a watch? That must be awkward to walk around with.

Put your microscope away. Put your watch on. Wear it, enjoy it, love it. You'll feel better.

[77T]

Originally Posted by Daniel2020

Shouldn’t they send the watch to Rolex for a warranty claim ?


Shouldn’t I be able to get it fixed for free ?

I have 5 years left on the warranty .

Have anybody seen or heard of defects like this on a real watch ?

The dealer has no role in your case of seeking warranty work from RSC. If they offered a return policy, you might have an option for a refund. If they offered an “in house” warranty, it is unlikely to cover a spec or many specs of dust.

Your watch doesn’t need a “fix” and hopefully works fine for the length of your remaining warranty (and many more years).

Now that you’re here, you can use the forum’s search feature to find the many thousands of threads that include the word “defective”.


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[904VT]

I would throw it out and go with a Patek Double Split

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by JonnyBCisco

Recommend you check out other brands like Grand Seiko, AP, VC, or PP that make that extra effort for perfection under magnification.

It's insane that Grand Seiko is included that group. What a compliment.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Eric-London

You've got too much time on your hands.

To be fair, we all do.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by pickettt

It's insane that Grand Seiko is included that group. What a compliment.

GS wearers seem to really really talk them up. From my experience they are much closer to Rolex than they are Holly Trinity. Their designs from my perspective also leave something to be desired and more resemble Omega. IMO A Lange Sohne is much more deserving of being included in that conversation. If you’ve never seen a Datograph or Zeitwerk in person you are missing out. The Zeitwerk Lumen drool

[fmc000]

Actually a microscope can be real fun. I have one, more a USB toy than a real microscope to be fair, but in a 5 minutes break I ended up with this.

[Chronokid]

There are instances in horology when microscopes are warranted and necessary, but this ain't one of those times! You, and anyone you meet, can enjoy your new purchase on your wrist where it's meant to be seen.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well the TRF is getting to be a bit of a joke lately, especially reading many of the posts in the Rolex watch forum.

Maybe we need all need to migrate to a new discussion board? Better still, TRF should install a Paywall, so to participate you have to donate. Betcha the Paywall will eliminate the vast majority of these types of posts.

[alphasports]

Originally Posted by SearChart

These are no quality control issues, these are OCD issues.

Not a single RSC will ever help you with this under 'warranty', put the loupe away, take a deep breath and just enjoy your new watch.

This.

[77T]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Maybe we need all need to migrate to a new discussion board? Better still, TRF should install a Paywall, so to participate you have to donate. Betcha the Paywall will eliminate the vast majority of these types of posts.

Yup - new member - Sweden - hmmm??? Could it be someone we know who’s been given the boot before?


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[Pongster]

I suppose those are not defects but mere imperfections.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

A microscope? You need a microscope to look at a watch?

Hey, speak for yourself. Some of our eyes ain’t what they used to be! I’m on the lookout for a 40mm cyclops.

[joli160]

OP has left, guess he was trolling

[214270Explorer]

Originally Posted by joli160

OP has left, guess he was trolling

Or embarrassingly shamed to death

[Greg 59]

I guess part of the problem is that whilst Rolex are charging seriously large sums of money for their products they are nevertheless mass produced with all the potential flaws that process creates one being that quality control slowly but surely slips.
If you are making 1 million watches a year and just 1% are considered below par then that's still a whopping 10,000 watches that could end up on the reject pile. Solution... lower the bar and let a few more through. Eventually smudges on date wheels and dust particles where there shouldn't be will become the norm.

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[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by 214270Explorer

Or embarrassingly shamed to death

Probably this - he was flamed. Bit hash, I think (although 'two days with a microscope' is pretty much setting yourself up to be grilled, unless you're in a laboratory developing a cure for something...)

As a thought; you'd never see anything even approaching this sort of 'blemish' in any of their advertising. Black spots? Nope. Not a one, if the print-job is good. Not exactly a unique selling point.

So, he sort of had a right to mention it. Bet he wasn't expecting the response he got. Let's face it, though, the basic principle and objective of time-keeping instruments is to be as accurate as possible, by definition. We all agree on that; official chronometer blah, blah. Horologists strived for this for generations, as we all know. Add to that, manufacturers of these little machines we all obsess about - be honest, you're here, after all - similarly, also seemingly labour to achieve aesthetic qualities as close to perfection as humanly possible - with the added aid of computers and robots, within staunchly strict lab-like clinical conditions. It sort of goes hand in hand with the good time-keeping ethos thing, to look 'accurate' as well.

All so that you can throw down many thousands of [usually] hard-earned bucks for a nice, shiny new mechanical gadget, which essentially purports to represent not only your supremely good taste, but also the pinnacle of human achievement in meticulous design, R&D, mechanics, engineering etc. and hyped by global marketing with serious presence, to boot.

Only to get home, enthusiastically fetch out your magnifying device to admire said gem of "Swiss perfection" and congratulate yourself for your own good taste and considerable achievement in finally beholding it as yours... and find... black spots.

Just saying...