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Super Dave · 5 January 2010, 10:24 AM

Hi,

I'm going to pick up a used LV in the next couple of days.

Which one would be the most desirable for reselling if I’m not in love?

The condition is mint for all three. All come with box and papers. All come from solid sellers with lots of successful deals.

Option 1: $4,600. Purchased April 2004. F323 serial.
Option 2: $4,500. Purchased Nov 2007. Z987 serial.
Option 3: Asking $4800. Have not talked price yet. M866 serial. Not sure of purchase date. Comes from authorized Rolex dealer.

I would appreciate your guidance.

Thanks a lot,
Dave

Art 1 · 5 January 2010, 10:27 AM

#2.

MAWhite · 5 January 2010, 10:28 AM

Easy assuming all are complete package in same condition;
#3 Newer watch from AD.

If $300 is your deciding factor you might want to take a step back and reconsider.
Best,
Mike

Playdrv4me · 5 January 2010, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Dave

Hi,

I'm going to pick up a used LV in the next couple of days.

Which one would be the most desirable for reselling if I’m not in love?

The condition is mint for all three. All come with box and papers. All come from solid sellers with lots of successful deals.

Option 1: $4,600. Purchased April 2004. F323 serial.
Option 2: $4,500. Purchased Nov 2007. Z987 serial.
Option 3: Asking $4800. Have not talked price yet. M866 serial. Not sure of purchase date. Comes from authorized Rolex dealer.

I would appreciate your guidance.

Thanks a lot,
Dave

M Serial by far, especially considering you haven't even asked for a discount yet. M has the bezel engraving, Z might not... When it comes to Sub LVs you need all the help you can get at resale because Rolex flooded the market with them. I sold my M Serial LV last summer for a trite $4700.00.

Lowflight · 5 January 2010, 10:30 AM

I say buy the oldest. I think they will be worth a bit more one day if you keep it. My co-worker has a F serial that I intend to buy once I have my 1680 sold.

rolexsubdate · 5 January 2010, 10:33 AM

Go with Z .... after Z came M ... but before Z came D (now say this sentence really fast 5 times)

Z is D best ... confusing? Z is the best $$ wise, newness wise, and iwll need servicing later ....even though technically, all 3 are the same.

Tools · 5 January 2010, 10:33 AM

Which one do you want..

The F is closest to the original release date, and if it had the oval O, I might go for that one...but I wouldn't pay that much..

Otherwise, I would go for the M.... it's the most fresh...

Playdrv4me · 5 January 2010, 10:35 AM

I believe someone here stated once that the newer series LVs also tend to have a "greener" bezel than the older series, but I have never confirmed this to be the case.

Yoreese · 5 January 2010, 10:38 AM

Not that much difference, just weather you want the engraved ring. I personally like the engraving on the new watches.

mike · 5 January 2010, 11:00 AM

#1 sounds like an oval O. That would be my choice.

SLS · 5 January 2010, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

#1 sounds like an oval O. That would be my choice.

x2
Scott

MAWhite · 5 January 2010, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playdrv4me

I believe someone here stated once that the newer series LVs also tend to have a "greener" bezel than the older series, but I have never confirmed this to be the case.

TRUE!
My "Y9.." serial purchased November 2003 had a more sickly pea soup green color compared to the more traditional Kelly green of my current "D".
Best,
Mike

mike · 5 January 2010, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playdrv4me

I believe someone here stated once that the newer series LVs also tend to have a "greener" bezel than the older series, but I have never confirmed this to be the case.

All you ever wanted to know about the LV.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

Playdrv4me · 5 January 2010, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAWhite

TRUE!
My "Y9.." serial purchased November 2003 had a more sickly pea soup green color compared to the more traditional Kelly green of my current "D".
Best,
Mike

Interesting!

Super Dave · 5 January 2010, 11:53 AM

No clear winner. Thanks for your input.

Votes
Option 1 (F): 3 votes
Option 2 (Z): 2 votes
Option 3 (M): 4 votes

Ultraman · 5 January 2010, 06:17 PM

M series!
Good luck with your decision, you can't go wrong with the LV.

Davvan · 5 January 2010, 08:09 PM

This one

Option 1: $4,600. Purchased April 2004. F323 serial.

Oval O and NO rolexrolexrolex engravings

gone-rolex-mad · 5 January 2010, 09:14 PM

#3 m

Bullyterrier · 5 January 2010, 10:28 PM

M serial.

Bullyterrier · 5 January 2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

Go with Z .... after Z came M ... but before Z came D (now say this sentence really fast 5 times)

Z is D best ... confusing? Z is the best $$ wise, newness wise, and iwll need servicing later ....even though technically, all 3 are the same.

I think you confused yourself!

As M is the newer of the 3 and there for will need servicing later.

promethus · 6 January 2010, 04:03 AM

I will hunt down a Y series if I ever want to get a Sub LV.

Woody · 6 January 2010, 05:18 AM

I would probably go for #1 - if for no other reason than it should come with an anchor

Gerardus · 6 January 2010, 05:20 AM

2 or 3.
Think i go for 3

Duc-904 · 6 January 2010, 05:23 AM

Option 2, offer 4K cash.

swissautopro · 6 January 2010, 05:34 AM

Listen to your Mods. The F serial is almost certainly an oval "O" model, which is considered by many to be the original "anniversary" watch, even though astute collectors realize the only actual "anniversary" is the Y serial, which is quite rare. As long as it has the original bezel insert, you are looking at much more upside with the F serial than the Z or the M, particularly if it has all of its original goodies, including papers.

My money is on the F.

harvey · 6 January 2010, 06:20 AM

i would go for the rarer oval "o" example...

heres my d series with the oval "o"...

Jason71 · 6 January 2010, 06:30 AM

Z serial for me unless the AD would come down at least $100 -$200 (on the M).

Super Dave · 6 January 2010, 08:44 AM

Option 3: M866

Total Votes:
Option 1 (F): 7 votes
Option 2 (Z): 3 votes
Option 3 (M): 9 votes

Thanks for all the input it helped me make an informed decision.

When the moderators speak….I listen. But, I think the purists who like the F version are taking a longer term stance on the price appreciation than what I need. My history with the two past Rolex deals has been to resell them in about a month. My priority is losing as little money in the short term if I decide to sell it.

I also think that there are fewer purists in the market for an LV if I decide to sell in a few weeks. Based on the comments in the thread they would be more likely to push for a lower price or wait for a “Y” to show up.

I wasn’t sure about the engraved inner ring. A poll on this forum showed that 50% preferred the engraving and 25% didn’t care. That’s another plus.

Lastly, buying from an authorized dealer makes it’s easier for me to prove that it’s not a fake to potential buyers.

That’s pretty much why I bought the M. I’m excited to strap it on and hope it’s a keeper.

The watch is like new in box, all papers, etc from Goverb / $4,500 shipped. It was originally purchased in Feb 2009 and my understanding is that the Rolex warranty is transferable. Is that true? Goverb offers additional warranty coverage but it is not transferable. The transaction was smooth.

Thanks again,
Dave

swissautopro · 6 January 2010, 08:56 AM

Congrats! Wear it in good health.

datejust1 · 6 January 2010, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowflight

I say buy the oldest. I think they will be worth a bit more one day if you keep it. My co-worker has a F serial that I intend to buy once I have my 1680 sold.

5 January 2010, 10:33 AM	#7
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,453	Which one do you want.. The F is closest to the original release date, and if it had the oval O, I might go for that one...but I wouldn't pay that much.. Otherwise, I would go for the M.... it's the most fresh... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

5 January 2010, 11:53 AM	#15
Super Dave "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii Posts: 35	Thank you. No clear winner. Thanks for your input. Votes Option 1 (F): 3 votes Option 2 (Z): 2 votes Option 3 (M): 4 votes

5 January 2010, 08:09 PM	#17
Davvan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: David Location: Location Location Watch: out..make way!! Posts: 726	This one Option 1: $4,600. Purchased April 2004. F323 serial. Oval O and NO rolexrolexrolex engravings __________________ Mare Nostrum

5 January 2010, 09:14 PM	#18
gone-rolex-mad "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Andalucia Spain Watch: WG daydate-Daytona Posts: 1,338	#3 m __________________ Choose to allocate your time to imbeciles at your peril!

5 January 2010, 10:28 PM	#19
Bullyterrier "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 1,343	M serial. __________________ So Mote it be.

5 January 2010, 10:24 AM	#1
Super Dave "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii Posts: 35	Which used LV to Buy?...3 to choose from Hi, I'm going to pick up a used LV in the next couple of days. Which one would be the most desirable for reselling if I’m not in love? The condition is mint for all three. All come with box and papers. All come from solid sellers with lots of successful deals. Option 1: $4,600. Purchased April 2004. F323 serial. Option 2: $4,500. Purchased Nov 2007. Z987 serial. Option 3: Asking $4800. Have not talked price yet. M866 serial. Not sure of purchase date. Comes from authorized Rolex dealer. I would appreciate your guidance. Thanks a lot, Dave

5 January 2010, 10:27 AM	#2
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	#2.

5 January 2010, 10:28 AM	#3
MAWhite Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: St. Louis Watch: Never Just One! Posts: 308	Easy assuming all are complete package in same condition; #3 Newer watch from AD. If $300 is your deciding factor you might want to take a step back and reconsider. Best, Mike

5 January 2010, 10:30 AM	#5
Lowflight Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Harold Location: On The Far Right Posts: 1,106	I say buy the oldest. I think they will be worth a bit more one day if you keep it. My co-worker has a F serial that I intend to buy once I have my 1680 sold.

5 January 2010, 10:33 AM	#6
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	Go with Z .... after Z came M ... but before Z came D (now say this sentence really fast 5 times) Z is D best ... confusing? Z is the best $$ wise, newness wise, and iwll need servicing later ....even though technically, all 3 are the same.

5 January 2010, 10:35 AM	#8
Playdrv4me "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: STL Watch: the 4Sale section! Posts: 201	I believe someone here stated once that the newer series LVs also tend to have a "greener" bezel than the older series, but I have never confirmed this to be the case.

5 January 2010, 10:38 AM	#9
Yoreese Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Maurice Location: Margaritaville Watch: 114270 Explorer Posts: 212	Not that much difference, just weather you want the engraved ring. I personally like the engraving on the new watches.

5 January 2010, 11:00 AM	#10
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	#1 sounds like an oval O. That would be my choice.

5 January 2010, 06:17 PM	#16
Ultraman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 2,175	M series! Good luck with your decision, you can't go wrong with the LV.

6 January 2010, 04:03 AM	#21
promethus "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SG Posts: 192	I will hunt down a Y series if I ever want to get a Sub LV.

6 January 2010, 05:18 AM	#22
Woody "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Africa Posts: 1,127	I would probably go for #1 - if for no other reason than it should come with an anchor

6 January 2010, 05:20 AM	#23
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,108	2 or 3. Think i go for 3 __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

6 January 2010, 05:23 AM	#24
Duc-904 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Jesse Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,001	Option 2, offer 4K cash.

6 January 2010, 05:34 AM	#25
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	Listen to your Mods. The F serial is almost certainly an oval "O" model, which is considered by many to be the original "anniversary" watch, even though astute collectors realize the only actual "anniversary" is the Y serial, which is quite rare. As long as it has the original bezel insert, you are looking at much more upside with the F serial than the Z or the M, particularly if it has all of its original goodies, including papers. My money is on the F. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

6 January 2010, 06:20 AM	#26
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,421	i would go for the rarer oval "o" example... heres my d series with the oval "o"... __________________ And ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.

6 January 2010, 06:30 AM	#27
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Z serial for me unless the AD would come down at least $100 -$200 (on the M). __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

6 January 2010, 08:44 AM	#28
Super Dave "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii Posts: 35	And the winner is: Option 3: M866 Total Votes: Option 1 (F): 7 votes Option 2 (Z): 3 votes Option 3 (M): 9 votes Thanks for all the input it helped me make an informed decision. When the moderators speak….I listen. But, I think the purists who like the F version are taking a longer term stance on the price appreciation than what I need. My history with the two past Rolex deals has been to resell them in about a month. My priority is losing as little money in the short term if I decide to sell it. I also think that there are fewer purists in the market for an LV if I decide to sell in a few weeks. Based on the comments in the thread they would be more likely to push for a lower price or wait for a “Y” to show up. I wasn’t sure about the engraved inner ring. A poll on this forum showed that 50% preferred the engraving and 25% didn’t care. That’s another plus. Lastly, buying from an authorized dealer makes it’s easier for me to prove that it’s not a fake to potential buyers. That’s pretty much why I bought the M. I’m excited to strap it on and hope it’s a keeper. The watch is like new in box, all papers, etc from Goverb / $4,500 shipped. It was originally purchased in Feb 2009 and my understanding is that the Rolex warranty is transferable. Is that true? Goverb offers additional warranty coverage but it is not transferable. The transaction was smooth. Thanks again, Dave

6 January 2010, 08:56 AM	#29
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	Congrats! Wear it in good health. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

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