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Blue Bull · 15 February 2007, 04:54 AM

What eaxctly are the differences between the two ? Obviously the date feature and cyclops.Any difference in the bracelet,case,weight ? Anything else ?

JJ Irani · 15 February 2007, 05:19 AM

Different movement, different bracelets.

Sub-date has the SEL one whereas the no-date Sub is fitted with the non-SEL bracelet.

Movement is the 3135 in the date one and in the non-date one is the 3130 Modified movement, now also with 31 jewels.

Cheers - JJ

Solo118 · 15 February 2007, 08:53 AM

JJ,
Is it safe to say that one runs better than the other? or will their accuracy be similar?

mike · 15 February 2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Solo118

JJ,
Is it safe to say that one runs better than the other? or will their accuracy be similar?

If I may, COSC certification aside, one is just as accurate and robust as the other. Indeed the movement that powers the Sub ND is the same as used in the EXP I, a watch that is certified.
The only real difference between the two is the addition of a date feature in the 16610.(as far as movement)
There are several menbers I'm aware of that report accuracy of +1 sec with the 14060m. Indeed I've talked about this with an AD who told me if an ND sub goes back to Rolex for repair, service, or regulation it's regulated just like it's COSC cousin.

roadcarver · 15 February 2007, 01:23 PM

The no date sub also has a different style diver extension.

tonelar · 15 February 2007, 03:52 PM

Is the 14060M case narrower (less deep) than the 16610?

nko51 · 15 February 2007, 11:09 PM

Simply put the difference is no date, and no chrono tag certification, otherwise a gorgeous watch. I have both.

rusi · 16 February 2007, 01:38 AM

Both look great, both are rough, depends upon whether you require to know the date everytime you see the time.

15 February 2007, 04:54 AM	#1
Blue Bull Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,887	Sub/Date vs Sun/No Date What eaxctly are the differences between the two ? Obviously the date feature and cyclops.Any difference in the bracelet,case,weight ? Anything else ?

15 February 2007, 05:19 AM	#2
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Different movement, different bracelets. Sub-date has the SEL one whereas the no-date Sub is fitted with the non-SEL bracelet. Movement is the 3135 in the date one and in the non-date one is the 3130 Modified movement, now also with 31 jewels. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

15 February 2007, 01:23 PM	#5
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	The no date sub also has a different style diver extension. __________________ I'm just a cook...

15 February 2007, 03:52 PM	#6
tonelar "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Tony Location: san francisco Watch: Seadweller Posts: 1,368	Is the 14060M case narrower (less deep) than the 16610? __________________ It's a rarity that something popular is actually right... Wear 'em with PRIDE, y'all.

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15 February 2007, 08:53 AM	#3
Solo118 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 6,082	JJ, Is it safe to say that one runs better than the other? or will their accuracy be similar?

15 February 2007, 11:09 PM	#7
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	Simply put the difference is no date, and no chrono tag certification, otherwise a gorgeous watch. I have both.

16 February 2007, 01:38 AM	#8
rusi Banned Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 275	Both look great, both are rough, depends upon whether you require to know the date everytime you see the time.

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