The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Other (non-Rolex) Watch Topics > Patek Philippe Discussion Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 3 September 2019, 01:12 PM   #1
Micro Wrist
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: California
Posts: 50
how did you get the 5712A at AD

Hi all
I just wondering how did you get your 5712A at AD, I have spent more than $100,000 at my AD, but seem it’s impossible to get the the 5712A or even Daytona White Dial. I live in Southern California
Micro Wrist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 01:15 PM   #2
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,097
Fat Ninja has all the answers to your question. Just follow his advices and you will be well taken care of.
Ichiran is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 01:16 PM   #3
wulin
"TRF" Member
 
wulin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: California
Watch: PP,AP,Rolex,IWC
Posts: 578
If you can't get a Daytona after spending over 100k, you dealt with the wrong AD.

For 5712/1A, might need to spend over 200k.
wulin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 01:22 PM   #4
Micro Wrist
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: California
Posts: 50
What is the best dealer do you think in Orange County, I think we have Hype Park and Tourneau. I dont like Hing Wa Lee dealer, it seem like im begging them for a watch
Micro Wrist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 01:59 PM   #5
zahain
"TRF" Member
 
zahain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: _
Posts: 586
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
Fat Ninja has all the answers to your question. Just follow his advices and you will be well taken care of.
He sold his soul to the AD's. Some say you can find him bin diving in the back for additional thrown out Patek goodies
zahain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 02:02 PM   #6
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,097
Quote:
Originally Posted by zahain View Post
He sold his soul to the AD's. Some say you can find him bin diving in the back for additional thrown out Patek goodies
Ichiran is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 04:00 PM   #7
Virtued
"TRF" Member
 
Virtued's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Earth
Posts: 63
I haven’t spent anything and just received a 5711/1A from London boutique after two and a half years waiting. It is not 5712 as this thread is about, but it still... Of course I was more than happy, but I could not resist to ask why some other people had to wait longer than me, with ref. to O’Leary. The answer was: “It is not always about money. You seemed to be genuine interested in the watch and I (read: the director of the boutique) think you will enjoy wearing it rather than flipping it. That’s why!”.

I really love the clean design of the 5711 on the flesh. However I think that I am going to acquire the 5712 with blue dial in the future, at least I try to. Have already made the request. They said that they had to close the list just three days after launch at Basel earlier this year. But they will see what they can do. Finger crossed.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Virtued is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 04:09 PM   #8
pam66
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: cambridge
Posts: 2,339
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
Fat Ninja has all the answers to your question. Just follow his advices and you will be well taken care of.
but you might end up with an RM instead
pam66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 04:20 PM   #9
Micro Wrist
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: California
Posts: 50
if i know i better bought from grey than bought some stupid stuffs like rings and gold rolex that noone want lol
Micro Wrist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 07:22 PM   #10
Micro Wrist
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: California
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Virtued View Post
I haven’t spent anything and just received a 5711/1A from London boutique after two and a half years waiting. It is not 5712 as this thread is about, but it still... Of course I was more than happy, but I could not resist to ask why some other people had to wait longer than me, with ref. to O’Leary. The answer was: “It is not always about money. You seemed to be genuine interested in the watch and I (read: the director of the boutique) think you will enjoy wearing it rather than flipping it. That’s why!”.

I really love the clean design of the 5711 on the flesh. However I think that I am going to acquire the 5712 with blue dial in the future, at least I try to. Have already made the request. They said that they had to close the list just three days after launch at Basel earlier this year. But they will see what they can do. Finger crossed.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I heard the 5712A will be discontinued in 2019, so i dont know my chance is still there or not lol
Micro Wrist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 07:25 PM   #11
rolex_addict
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: .
Posts: 831
Its confirmed! the 5712/1a is discontinued
rolex_addict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 07:32 PM   #12
rolex_addict
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: .
Posts: 831
.












just kidding ofcourse
rolex_addict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 07:33 PM   #13
Analysing You
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: London
Posts: 534
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolex_addict View Post
Its confirmed! the 5712/1a is discontinued


Confirmed lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Analysing You is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 08:12 PM   #14
JR16
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 6,245
Quote:
Originally Posted by Virtued View Post
I haven’t spent anything and just received a 5711/1A from London boutique after two and a half years waiting. It is not 5712 as this thread is about, but it still... Of course I was more than happy, but I could not resist to ask why some other people had to wait longer than me, with ref. to O’Leary. The answer was: “It is not always about money. You seemed to be genuine interested in the watch and I (read: the director of the boutique) think you will enjoy wearing it rather than flipping it. That’s why!”.

I really love the clean design of the 5711 on the flesh. However I think that I am going to acquire the 5712 with blue dial in the future, at least I try to. Have already made the request. They said that they had to close the list just three days after launch at Basel earlier this year. But they will see what they can do. Finger crossed.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


I am sure this is true at many ADs... relationship / type of customer may trump overall spend. I was on the list for approx 1 year and while I have spent a good amount of $ over the years, I am sure there were more who spent more than me . But I am super local, have a good relationship , know a lot of the SA as well as mgr, have met the owners, and they all know my passion for watches didn’t start w the SS craze we are in the midst of. I realize I may be in the minority, and I do feel fortunate to have a wonderful AD.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
JR16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 08:31 PM   #15
pam66
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: cambridge
Posts: 2,339
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micro Wrist View Post
if i know i better bought from grey than bought some stupid stuffs like rings and gold rolex that noone want lol
who says that no one wants gold rolex???
pam66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 08:39 PM   #16
baglady
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: London
Posts: 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR16 View Post
I am sure this is true at many ADs... relationship / type of customer may trump overall spend. I was on the list for approx 1 year and while I have spent a good amount of $ over the years, I am sure there were more who spent more than me . But I am super local, have a good relationship , know a lot of the SA as well as mgr, have met the owners, and they all know my passion for watches didn’t start w the SS craze we are in the midst of. I realize I may be in the minority, and I do feel fortunate to have a wonderful AD.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
I feel like the fact that I want a gold rather than an SS should clearly show I'm not a flipper. Also max I can make on the 5164r that I want is maybe all of $6k-$10k if I sell personally (with no reputation as a seller) or if I go through grey market dealer and fork over the profit share. I generally won't waste more than 5 to 10 hours of my life for $6k-$10k in profit. It just doesn't move the needle for me. This would be a different story if I bought the watch for $40k and could sell it for $140k, but I'm pretty certain that wouldn't happen.

So I can see the skepticism for SS Nautilus and maybe SS Aquanauts. Can't see skepticism for PM Aquanauts. They're not the best flips IMO.
baglady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 08:43 PM   #17
brandrea
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
brandrea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Brian (TBone)
Location: canada
Watch: es make me smile
Posts: 77,562
Quote:
Originally Posted by Virtued View Post
I haven’t spent anything and just received a 5711/1A from London boutique after two and a half years waiting. It is not 5712 as this thread is about, but it still... Of course I was more than happy, but I could not resist to ask why some other people had to wait longer than me, with ref. to O’Leary. The answer was: “It is not always about money. You seemed to be genuine interested in the watch and I (read: the director of the boutique) think you will enjoy wearing it rather than flipping it. That’s why!”.

I really love the clean design of the 5711 on the flesh. However I think that I am going to acquire the 5712 with blue dial in the future, at least I try to. Have already made the request. They said that they had to close the list just three days after launch at Basel earlier this year. But they will see what they can do. Finger crossed.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Welcome to the forum and I have like minded (Rolex) AD as well
brandrea is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 08:46 PM   #18
Fat_ninja
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2018
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: USA
Watch: P-01
Posts: 11,772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
Fat Ninja has all the answers to your question. Just follow his advices and you will be well taken care of.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zahain View Post
He sold his soul to the AD's. Some say you can find him bin diving in the back for additional thrown out Patek goodies
Quote:
Originally Posted by pam66 View Post
but you might end up with an RM instead
Y’all killing me...
Fat_ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 08:47 PM   #19
Micro Wrist
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: California
Posts: 50
if gold is lighter than steel, maybe i will go gold. gold is heavy and look little bit old for me ( just my opinion) i dont think there is flipper that spend more than 100k to get daytona or 5712 to flip.
Micro Wrist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 08:56 PM   #20
Fat_ninja
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2018
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: USA
Watch: P-01
Posts: 11,772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micro Wrist View Post
Hi all
I just wondering how did you get your 5712A at AD, I have spent more than $100,000 at my AD, but seem it’s impossible to get the the 5712A or even Daytona White Dial. I live in Southern California
I think u need a new AD bro 100k and u can’t get a daytona...


Also I could go grey probably be cheaper in. A bit
Fat_ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 09:36 PM   #21
Virtued
"TRF" Member
 
Virtued's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Earth
Posts: 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by brandrea View Post
Welcome to the forum and I have like minded (Rolex) AD as well


Thanks!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Virtued is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 09:42 PM   #22
AK797
2024 Pledge Member
 
AK797's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Real Name: Neil
Location: UK
Watch: ing ships roll in
Posts: 59,368
I'm watching Narcos so kidnapping the ADs' family does spring to mind.
AK797 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 10:41 PM   #23
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,097
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat_ninja View Post
Y’all killing me...
I thought u are going to suggest Mercedes, Lexus or Ram.
Ichiran is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 11:21 PM   #24
np2016
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Ohio
Watch: Rolex, Patek, AP,
Posts: 522
After spending 100k if your AD is showing you no love even with a Daytona its time to move on.
np2016 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 11:29 PM   #25
Fat_ninja
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2018
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: USA
Watch: P-01
Posts: 11,772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
I thought u are going to suggest Mercedes, Lexus or Ram.
Hummer bro hummer
Fat_ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 11:41 PM   #26
V25V
2024 Pledge Member
 
V25V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 4,397
Quote:
Originally Posted by wulin View Post
For 5712/1A, might need to spend over 200k.
How do people come up with this nonsense???
V25V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 September 2019, 11:58 PM   #27
Fat_ninja
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2018
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: USA
Watch: P-01
Posts: 11,772
Quote:
Originally Posted by V25V View Post
How do people come up with this nonsense???

Higher of 2 equations...
(Price of desired watch x 10)/2

Or

(2ndary price of desired watch -Msrp)/20% This is the gain on the watch grossed up so that the AD makes the spread
Fat_ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 September 2019, 12:01 AM   #28
V25V
2024 Pledge Member
 
V25V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 4,397
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat_ninja View Post
Higher of 2 equations...

(Price of desired watch x 10)/2



Or



(2ndary price of desired watch -Msrp)/20% This is the gain on the watch grossed up so that the AD makes the spread






Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
V25V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 September 2019, 01:01 AM   #29
Vipes
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 4,900
Quote:
Originally Posted by wulin View Post
If you can't get a Daytona after spending over 100k, you dealt with the wrong AD.

For 5712/1A, might need to spend over 200k.
You’re probably right. If OP’s AD is a large AD for Patek and Rolex, there are huge spenders that get preference. So 100k is not enough for the 5712.
Vipes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 September 2019, 03:51 AM   #30
Xerxes77
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Home!
Posts: 3,307
You don’t need to spend anything else but time!
Time to go to an AD other than yours and talk to him/her and show them you are a watch lover not a watch flipper.
I buy my 5980 1AR-001 without any history and without spend any cent on that AD.
And now I believe till the end of the year I will post pictures with my new 5726 blue dial.
With my Rolex SkyD blue same story.
I think you need to change your AD and your modality to abord this kind of thing. With Patek AD especially!
Xerxes77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

Wrist Aficionado

Asset Appeal


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.