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UKjacobBS · 28 February 2020, 04:39 AM

Hi all,

this is my second post on here and again it relates to my hunt for a 16570 polar. I’ve put down a deposit on this watch and am planning on collecting it this weekend.

I requested a few extra shots from the retailer today, having seen them I’m questioning my choice!

I’d appreciate if some of the experts on this forum could share their opinion on this case. Has it been over-polished?

seasubmariner · 28 February 2020, 04:50 AM

Questioning your choice is very acceptable. You are buying a second hand watch.

No one can not tell much with this photos.

You need zoomed or magnified photos from several angles under natural day light in order to make a conclusion about the dial / markers / hands and crystal.

To answer your question, yes it looks polished. I can not see the crown logo on the crown. Dont know why?

Gerardus · 28 February 2020, 04:53 AM

Overpolished bezel for sure.

UKjacobBS · 28 February 2020, 05:00 AM

Here’s one from another angle. I’m very inexperienced but the lugs look more rounded than most other examples. Thoughts?

UKjacobBS · 28 February 2020, 05:04 AM

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UKjacobBS · 28 February 2020, 05:10 AM

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privv · 28 February 2020, 05:10 AM

If you like it and its cheap enough enjoy it

It wouldn't bother me

seasubmariner · 28 February 2020, 05:36 AM

The triangle part of the gmt hand looks like its damaged.

mmaggi · 28 February 2020, 05:41 AM

Other than seeing alot of finger prints, I don't see anything that would bother me. It's certainly used but it's not beat up, at least to my eye. If the polishing bothers you, you can always get it re-polished. If you didn't want it polished at all, well then that could be a problem.

OrangeKenny · 28 February 2020, 06:40 AM

Bezel looks very soft.
Inside of lugs look rounded.
Not sure if over polished or poorly polished.
Only you can determine if it’s ok for you, but I’d stay away. Plenty explorers out there, the right one will come.

Onikage · 28 February 2020, 06:44 AM

I'd give it a 7. For the right price.

newu5er · 28 February 2020, 07:14 AM

One thing not shown that I would be interested in is the bracelet stretch. That one looks like it could have some play in it. Otherwise, agree that the case sides have seen some polish.
I actually want one of these and for me personally, I'd be a buyer in the low 5k range. Closer to 6k, I'd be looking for another example.

Mr DateJust · 28 February 2020, 07:25 AM

Bezel is either really worn or has been polished. It’s very hard to properly polish the explorer II bezel. Rolex tend to prefer replacing them at service. Lugs look rounded off as well. Think the hour and minute hand have been replaced. Look newer to me than the rest of the lume on the watch.

fed_fan · 28 February 2020, 07:54 AM

It's a tad over-polished for my liking. Would pass on this specific one as it's a reference that can be had in better condition without having to search high and low.

JonaG · 28 February 2020, 08:04 AM

Agree, the lug holes look a bit soft and it’s hard to see if the bezel still has the sunburst lines radiating out. Here are a couple of pics of mine. Cost less than £4K a year ago. Good examples are still out there for a good price.

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Rollied · 28 February 2020, 08:42 AM

Yea...that’s pretty over-polished...

Nikrnic · 28 February 2020, 08:45 AM

Hard to see and a tough call but it does look iffy. If i had to choose by the pics I'd play it safe and pass. If the seller has a no hassle return policy, althought its always a hassle wait and judge for yourself. If your going to see it in person, no problem, worth a look. the Expll doesn't have very pronounced chamfers but the case sides should still feel sharp on the edges and around the lug holes.

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zjd168 · 28 February 2020, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerardus

Overpolished bezel for sure.

This

UKjacobBS · 28 February 2020, 03:27 PM

Thanks for the responses guys.

Jona your’s looks so sharp, I wish there were still examples like that available at that price!

Here’s a photo of the bracelet. To me it looks very stretched for an oyster? would welcome more opinions!

Onikage · 28 February 2020, 06:32 PM

Comfy I'd call it.

If you're going to wear it and not keep it in a safe I'd say it's fine. The bezel has all the paint in it so it hasn't been hit with the jooltool.

tquieng · 28 February 2020, 07:16 PM

Slightly overpolished as a wearer ok
Collector no.

jeorge · 28 February 2020, 07:31 PM

Wait save up and buy a better example. Sounds like you're settling for this watch because of the low cost. You won't be happy with it.

Harry-57 · 28 February 2020, 07:39 PM

You've expressed a doubt. Which means there is no doubt. It doesn't matter if somebody else would buy it or pass. You are asking to be convinced that it's OK to buy. This means that you are not convinced. Trust your gut.

(I wouldn't buy this example, but that's just me).

Camel · 28 February 2020, 08:06 PM

Over polished, I would walk away from it - they are not that hard to source.

newu5er · 28 February 2020, 09:37 PM

What was the seller asking? Bracelet looks ok, but depending on the money I'm sure you could find a better example.

peterpl · 28 February 2020, 09:47 PM

The bezel has been polished alot!! It looks like its lost its edge and sharpness

28 February 2020, 04:53 AM	#3
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,123	Overpolished bezel for sure. __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

28 February 2020, 06:44 AM	#11
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	I'd give it a 7. For the right price. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

28 February 2020, 08:04 AM	#15
JonaG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: East Watch: ... Posts: 1,171	Agree, the lug holes look a bit soft and it’s hard to see if the bezel still has the sunburst lines radiating out. Here are a couple of pics of mine. Cost less than £4K a year ago. Good examples are still out there for a good price. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Yacht-Master 126622, GMT-Master II 16710, Submariner 114060, Sea-Dweller 16600, Panerai Luminor PAM111 Lange Saxonia Moon Phase 384.029, Tudor Black Bay Harrods M79230G.

28 February 2020, 06:32 PM	#20
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Comfy I'd call it. If you're going to wear it and not keep it in a safe I'd say it's fine. The bezel has all the paint in it so it hasn't been hit with the jooltool. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

28 February 2020, 08:06 PM	#24
Camel "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Willem Location: Pretoria RSA Watch: ROLEXROLEXROLEX Posts: 1,072	Over polished, I would walk away from it - they are not that hard to source. __________________ Rolex Datejust II WG/SS Blue 116334 "8368xxxx" Rolex Sea-Dweller SD43 126600 "94A6xxxx" Rolex Deepsea Sea-Dweller 116660 "V84xxxx" Rolex Deepsea D-Blue Horizon 116660 "3170xxxx" Rolex Explorer II Polar 16570 "T20xxxx" Rolex Explorer II Black 216570 "G53xxxx" Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 "P32xxxx" Rolex GMT-Master II Ceramic 116710LN "V97xxxx" Rolex Submariner 16610 "Z61xxxx" Rolex Submariner Ceramic 116610LN "G79xxxx"

28 February 2020, 04:50 AM	#2
seasubmariner Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Europe Posts: 284	Questioning your choice is very acceptable. You are buying a second hand watch. No one can not tell much with this photos. You need zoomed or magnified photos from several angles under natural day light in order to make a conclusion about the dial / markers / hands and crystal. To answer your question, yes it looks polished. I can not see the crown logo on the crown. Dont know why?

28 February 2020, 05:04 AM	#5
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28 February 2020, 05:10 AM	#6
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28 February 2020, 05:10 AM	#7
privv "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Real Name: Ady Location: uk Watch: Sub Posts: 99	If you like it and its cheap enough enjoy it It wouldn't bother me

28 February 2020, 05:36 AM	#8
seasubmariner Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Europe Posts: 284	The triangle part of the gmt hand looks like its damaged.

28 February 2020, 05:41 AM	#9
mmaggi Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Real Name: Michael Location: Nassau County, NY Watch: 16710 Posts: 889	Other than seeing alot of finger prints, I don't see anything that would bother me. It's certainly used but it's not beat up, at least to my eye. If the polishing bothers you, you can always get it re-polished. If you didn't want it polished at all, well then that could be a problem.

28 February 2020, 06:40 AM	#10
OrangeKenny "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Houston, TX Watch: 16570 Polar Posts: 329	Bezel looks very soft. Inside of lugs look rounded. Not sure if over polished or poorly polished. Only you can determine if it’s ok for you, but I’d stay away. Plenty explorers out there, the right one will come.

28 February 2020, 07:14 AM	#12
newu5er "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: USA/Denmark Posts: 651	One thing not shown that I would be interested in is the bracelet stretch. That one looks like it could have some play in it. Otherwise, agree that the case sides have seen some polish. I actually want one of these and for me personally, I'd be a buyer in the low 5k range. Closer to 6k, I'd be looking for another example.

28 February 2020, 07:25 AM	#13
Mr DateJust "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Glasgow, UK Watch: 16570 Posts: 909	Bezel is either really worn or has been polished. It’s very hard to properly polish the explorer II bezel. Rolex tend to prefer replacing them at service. Lugs look rounded off as well. Think the hour and minute hand have been replaced. Look newer to me than the rest of the lume on the watch.

28 February 2020, 07:54 AM	#14
fed_fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Watch: Hulk Posts: 176	It's a tad over-polished for my liking. Would pass on this specific one as it's a reference that can be had in better condition without having to search high and low.

28 February 2020, 08:42 AM	#16
Rollied 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 833	Yea...that’s pretty over-polished...

28 February 2020, 08:45 AM	#17
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,171	Hard to see and a tough call but it does look iffy. If i had to choose by the pics I'd play it safe and pass. If the seller has a no hassle return policy, althought its always a hassle wait and judge for yourself. If your going to see it in person, no problem, worth a look. the Expll doesn't have very pronounced chamfers but the case sides should still feel sharp on the edges and around the lug holes. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

28 February 2020, 07:16 PM	#21
tquieng "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: texas Posts: 334	Slightly overpolished as a wearer ok Collector no.

28 February 2020, 07:31 PM	#22
jeorge "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: U.S.A Posts: 139	Wait save up and buy a better example. Sounds like you're settling for this watch because of the low cost. You won't be happy with it.

28 February 2020, 07:39 PM	#23
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,600	You've expressed a doubt. Which means there is no doubt. It doesn't matter if somebody else would buy it or pass. You are asking to be convinced that it's OK to buy. This means that you are not convinced. Trust your gut. (I wouldn't buy this example, but that's just me).

28 February 2020, 09:37 PM	#25
newu5er "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: USA/Denmark Posts: 651	What was the seller asking? Bracelet looks ok, but depending on the money I'm sure you could find a better example.

28 February 2020, 09:47 PM	#26
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	The bezel has been polished alot!! It looks like its lost its edge and sharpness

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