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Dhiren · 29 May 2020, 01:37 AM

Hi all I saw this today on C24 for sale at about 4000€ is this a watch that Rolex made ?

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gallahadesquire · 29 May 2020, 02:41 AM

The Basel is correct

dhknola · 29 May 2020, 02:46 AM

No clue on authenticity, but hope it's correct, bc it's awesome.

Ny325 · 29 May 2020, 03:28 AM

That’s a nice timepiece.

BigBlue1 · 29 May 2020, 06:21 AM

Reminds me of an old moon phase, the dial style, even though it isn’t.

zapokee · 29 May 2020, 07:17 AM

I've never seen one before. It's very detailed. This isn't the watch I'd choose to tackle if I were in the business of making fakes...

It has a 1950s vibe. Should the 6s/9s be open from this period? The number font on the outer date track is tickling my Spidey sense, but TBH I just don't know.

Old Expat Beast · 29 May 2020, 08:07 AM

Can anyone make out the date stamp and model number in the caseback?

Styles Bitchley · 29 May 2020, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Can anyone make out the date stamp and model number in the caseback?

Kinda looks like 6569...

offrdmania · 29 May 2020, 08:19 AM

Thats a fantastic looking piece but ive never seen a model 6569 with a sub seconds that late into the 50s (1957) or an outer track date complication. I dont think its fake but it may very well be a pieced together watch. That dial looks amazing but IMO I think it has most definitely been restored.

offrdmania · 29 May 2020, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Can anyone make out the date stamp and model number in the caseback?

6569 and 1957

Old Expat Beast · 29 May 2020, 08:38 AM

Yep, I know some models shared casebacks, but that doesn't look like a 1957 dial to me. .

offrdmania · 29 May 2020, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Yep, I know some models shared casebacks, but that doesn't look like a 1957 dial to me. .

Im not aware of sub seconds that late into the 50s

Old Expat Beast · 29 May 2020, 08:43 AM

or that date indicator.

zapokee · 29 May 2020, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

or that date indicator.

The date indicator is very JLC. Hope it's real. That 9 hour marker is sublime.

offrdmania · 29 May 2020, 08:52 AM

The listing says the dial has been redone

The movement is a 1030 automatic which isnt a sub second movement

The watch would be an amazing novelty if everything worked on it.

watch-guy.com · 29 May 2020, 09:53 AM

I'm calling this a put together

Never seen such a model esp the combination of dial and date indicator -happy to be proven wrong

Julian

77T · 29 May 2020, 12:27 PM

Better pics from the listing.

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zapokee · 29 May 2020, 12:43 PM

Yes, more clearly a redial based on those close-ups. The seller has declared this, though.

But still none of us has ever seen one, so...

77T · 29 May 2020, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Yep, I know some models shared casebacks, but that doesn't look like a 1957 dial to me. .

I think the entire OP 6569 line has same caseback. The one in the picture may have never come with that watch.

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Old Expat Beast · 29 May 2020, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 77T

I think the entire OP 6569 line has same caseback. The one in the picture may have never come with that watch.

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Yeah, I just meant that the Air King 5500 used a 1002 caseback, stuff like that.

77T · 29 May 2020, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by watch-guy.com

I'm calling this a put together

Never seen such a model esp the combination of dial and date indicator -happy to be proven wrong

Julian

I think we agree thus far.

For the 1030 to be mated with an Analog Date complication using a center hand would seem to be a major piece of watchmaking.

Can the date train from an 1130 be lifted and integrated to a 1030 movement?

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MILGAUSS88 · 29 May 2020, 10:55 PM

There was a guy that would convert your time only Patek, into a moonphase Patek.
I am guessing the same happened here.

29 May 2020, 01:37 AM	#1
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29 May 2020, 08:19 AM	#9
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,966	Thats a fantastic looking piece but ive never seen a model 6569 with a sub seconds that late into the 50s (1957) or an outer track date complication. I dont think its fake but it may very well be a pieced together watch. That dial looks amazing but IMO I think it has most definitely been restored. __________________ TRF Member 11738

29 May 2020, 08:38 AM	#11
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,748	Yep, I know some models shared casebacks, but that doesn't look like a 1957 dial to me. . __________________ _______________________

29 May 2020, 02:41 AM	#2
gallahadesquire "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Shrewsbury MA Posts: 131	The Basel is correct

29 May 2020, 02:46 AM	#3
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,174	No clue on authenticity, but hope it's correct, bc it's awesome.

29 May 2020, 03:28 AM	#4
Ny325 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Traffic Watch: DW-5600BB Posts: 2,880	That’s a nice timepiece.

29 May 2020, 07:17 AM	#6
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,363	I've never seen one before. It's very detailed. This isn't the watch I'd choose to tackle if I were in the business of making fakes... It has a 1950s vibe. Should the 6s/9s be open from this period? The number font on the outer date track is tickling my Spidey sense, but TBH I just don't know.

29 May 2020, 08:43 AM	#13
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,748	or that date indicator. __________________ _______________________

29 May 2020, 08:52 AM	#15
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,966	The listing says the dial has been redone The movement is a 1030 automatic which isnt a sub second movement The watch would be an amazing novelty if everything worked on it. __________________ TRF Member 11738

29 May 2020, 09:53 AM	#16
watch-guy.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: United States Posts: 501	I'm calling this a put together Never seen such a model esp the combination of dial and date indicator -happy to be proven wrong Julian

29 May 2020, 12:27 PM	#17
77T 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 41,777	Better pics from the listing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

29 May 2020, 12:43 PM	#18
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,363	Yes, more clearly a redial based on those close-ups. The seller has declared this, though. But still none of us has ever seen one, so...

29 May 2020, 10:55 PM	#22
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,112	There was a guy that would convert your time only Patek, into a moonphase Patek. I am guessing the same happened here.

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