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Old 6 June 2021, 12:00 AM   #61
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Thanks y'all for your y'all's help.

I decided on 5205G blue. After this certainly focus will shift to Patek sports.
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Old 6 June 2021, 07:29 AM   #62
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Even my horse, heehaw knows that.
i didn't mean any disrespect with my comment, it wasn't obvious from your initial post that you bought all your watches from that specific AD
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Old 6 June 2021, 10:24 AM   #63
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i didn't mean any disrespect with my comment, it wasn't obvious from your initial post that you bought all your watches from that specific AD
Dear Aziz (actually i guess that's redundant since it means Aziz Aziz or Dear Dear if my limited Arabic serves me right from my days galloping Midland, Tx and the deserts of Kuwait),

Thank you for your sensitivity my friend. All well.

Specific answer to your question is as much as I love buying from one specific AD, I am Patek Promiscuous. there are a few I like that I buy from. I have been to many Patek shops across the world. My least favorite, worst experience has been at the Patek shop in Torino/Turin (two different trips). Snobbish and snooty to the max.

My best experience where hopefully I am deservedly considered a good customer is the Patek shop in Milan where Mr. Federico Bernero is the store manager. He has always been straightforward, honest, candid, and reliable with me. He has no problem giving his opinion and has never pushed me. Never false promises. I think our tastes are rather similar.

I love the Patek shop in Tokyo and trust their professionalism but have not purchased from them yet. Geneva people are also good and the store, well - it's a wonderful flagship. In the US I've established relationships with some ADs but certainly do not expect and/or donot count on their promises.

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Old 7 June 2021, 07:13 AM   #64
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Dear Aziz (actually i guess that's redundant since it means Aziz Aziz or Dear Dear if my limited Arabic serves me right from my days galloping Midland, Tx and the deserts of Kuwait),

Thank you for your sensitivity my friend. All well.

Specific answer to your question is as much as I love buying from one specific AD, I am Patek Promiscuous. there are a few I like that I buy from. I have been to many Patek shops across the world. My least favorite, worst experience has been at the Patek shop in Torino/Turin (two different trips). Snobbish and snooty to the max.

My best experience where hopefully I am deservedly considered a good customer is the Patek shop in Milan where Mr. Federico Bernero is the store manager. He has always been straightforward, honest, candid, and reliable with me. He has no problem giving his opinion and has never pushed me. Never false promises. I think our tastes are rather similar.

I love the Patek shop in Tokyo and trust their professionalism but have not purchased from them yet. Geneva people are also good and the store, well - it's a wonderful flagship. In the US I've established relationships with some ADs but certainly do not expect and/or donot count on their promises.

Hope I've answered your question.
This tell me as non PP who hope to own few PP I am better off going to grey since all the one I like are dress watches, 5205G, 5270P, and 5905R. Yes i might like a Nautilus or Aquanaut as well at some point but with saving on dress watches should make up the difference if I get them from grey dealer as well.
Am I wrong in thinking about this way?? Happy to be corrected. Thx
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Old 7 June 2021, 11:47 AM   #65
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This tell me as non PP who hope to own few PP I am better off going to grey since all the one I like are dress watches, 5205G, 5270P, and 5905R. Yes i might like a Nautilus or Aquanaut as well at some point but with saving on dress watches should make up the difference if I get them from grey dealer as well.
Am I wrong in thinking about this way?? Happy to be corrected. Thx
Howdy and assalamu alaikum drsd2002,

Please take anything I say as a simple data point from a humble country boy and massage it with what our other cohorts' wisdom here. I'm sure many Forum-ers here find my approach wrong.

Theoretically speaking, financially for any single, anticipated one-time transaction, you may be better off IF you absolutely trust your source and all the paper work, etc. are in place.

ADs may have the best intentions and be genuine but does not mean they can deliver. People like me are a dime a dozen at most Patek and Rolex shops.

Personally, all things about equal I always prefer dealing with an AD with whom I have fun speaking and exchanging ideas. Maybe even have coffee or lunch together.

My favorite AD (trustworthy person) at times has told me I have to wait a few months for a dress watch that I can find at another Patek shop. I demonstrate my loyalty by giving them the first chance. If they do not have the watch and I want it badly, I jump on it where I can find it. The few times I waited for an AD to deliver, I ended up regretting.

Alas, while I give my love to both my AD and my horse, I'd rather put my trust and faith in my horse and not be disappointed.
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Old 8 June 2021, 07:14 AM   #66
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Dear Aziz (actually i guess that's redundant since it means Aziz Aziz or Dear Dear if my limited Arabic serves me right from my days galloping Midland, Tx and the deserts of Kuwait),

Thank you for your sensitivity my friend. All well.

Specific answer to your question is as much as I love buying from one specific AD, I am Patek Promiscuous. there are a few I like that I buy from. I have been to many Patek shops across the world. My least favorite, worst experience has been at the Patek shop in Torino/Turin (two different trips). Snobbish and snooty to the max.

My best experience where hopefully I am deservedly considered a good customer is the Patek shop in Milan where Mr. Federico Bernero is the store manager. He has always been straightforward, honest, candid, and reliable with me. He has no problem giving his opinion and has never pushed me. Never false promises. I think our tastes are rather similar.

I love the Patek shop in Tokyo and trust their professionalism but have not purchased from them yet. Geneva people are also good and the store, well - it's a wonderful flagship. In the US I've established relationships with some ADs but certainly do not expect and/or donot count on their promises.

Hope I've answered your question.
completely understand and respect your opinion, nothing better than having an awesome collection that one have massed over a period of time from different parts of the world with great memories.
part of the fun is actually in finding the watch you want given that patek is not mass produced.
I have been to both patek ADs in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Dubai, Geneva, Interlaken, Zurich, Luzern, Washington DC and Auckland NZ.
sometimes (not very often) exchange rates at certain time window favor purchasing abroad
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Old 8 June 2021, 07:20 AM   #67
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This tell me as non PP who hope to own few PP I am better off going to grey since all the one I like are dress watches, 5205G, 5270P, and 5905R. Yes i might like a Nautilus or Aquanaut as well at some point but with saving on dress watches should make up the difference if I get them from grey dealer as well.
Am I wrong in thinking about this way?? Happy to be corrected. Thx
In theory and if you don't care about having your name on the certificate of origin you might be right going grey. or even go for 2nd hand market.

keep in mind that if you are going to buy from grey market and have it shipped to Saudi Arabia you will pay on top of the watch price an extra 5% (customs duty) and an extra 15% (VAT).
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