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mnguy · 24 January 2023, 02:06 AM

Hi all,

Just had this vintage Rolex 1665 sea dweller passed down, and wanted to come here for some pre-consensus thoughts on whether it is real or not. Planning to bring this to a local jeweler for an official check.

Thanks

springer · 24 January 2023, 02:13 AM

The fake bracelet might be a good place to start when trying to determine if the complete package is genuine.

Go to the double-red Sea-Dweller site and do some research on your watch. drsd.com

Kingface66 · 24 January 2023, 02:36 AM

Unlikely any local jeweler would know what they’re looking at, and for, in a fake vintage Rolex.

shiftf7 · 24 January 2023, 07:41 AM

Insert, dial, case, caseback are also fake.

mnguy · 24 January 2023, 07:48 AM

What's your reason for saying it's fake? Just curious to know

southtexas · 24 January 2023, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mnguy

What's your reason for saying it's fake? Just curious to know

As has been mentioned, if you go to DRSD.com, you’ll be able to see all variants of original 1665s, and you’ll also see yours is not among those.

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hutch300 · 24 January 2023, 10:54 AM

OP, the watch isn't like oh that is close. Its fake. Very fake. The resource suggested and many legit dealers have photos of real ones. The only value here is possible sentimental to you.

shiftf7 · 25 January 2023, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mnguy

What's your reason for saying it's fake? Just curious to know

Just by holding my own 1665’s in hand and compare, and look up this dial on DRSD.
The shape of the case is off, not possible from polishing because it’s bigger than the original for starters…

Saki. · 26 January 2023, 12:14 AM

Very fake. I was offered a similar watch once in Hong Kong. At that time for 19,000 dollars. At the end of the day, someone bought this watch too. I don't understand why people offer something like this as original.

Greetings

1665fan · 26 January 2023, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saki.

Very fake. I was offered a similar watch once in Hong Kong. At that time for 19,000 dollars. At the end of the day, someone bought this watch too. I don't understand why people offer something like this as original.

Greetings

Wait a second…..there’s crooks In the watch industry????

subx · 26 January 2023, 07:20 AM

best thing to do is not educate the fraudsters.

Especially since OFTEN they come in here as newbie accounts, just to test their goods for approval, to see if it passes, or to see why it doesn't pass...

Paulie 50 · 26 January 2023, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by subx

best thing to do is not educate the fraudsters.

Especially since OFTEN they come in here as newbie accounts, just to test their goods for approval, to see if it passes, or to see why it doesn't pass...

one80 · 26 January 2023, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by subx

best thing to do is not educate the fraudsters.

Especially since OFTEN they come in here as newbie accounts, just to test their goods for approval, to see if it passes, or to see why it doesn't pass...

A coincidence I’m sure but it’s funny you would say that when the OPs name is VERY close to a well known Vietnam “shop”…

hutch300 · 26 January 2023, 02:17 PM

Always grandpas watch too...

OP we are skeptical because like you are reading, this happens

TuRo · 27 January 2023, 08:25 PM

Not keen on that Mk4 dial - I’d expect the depth ratings to be slightly bigger and bolder.

indianmachine · 28 January 2023, 05:45 AM

where'd ya go mnguy???

mnguy · 28 January 2023, 05:56 AM

Uh, all I asked was if the watch I got passed down was real or not lol. Didn’t expect this to escalate to me being a fraudster lol

shiftf7 · 28 January 2023, 09:17 AM

Yeah, and after your question was answered you want to know how we can tell it’s fake.
It’s just common sense, nobody here on this forum is going to educate you.

mnguy · 28 January 2023, 06:32 PM

Right, well note to self. Rolex forum isn’t the place for further explanations

eatt_river · 28 January 2023, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mnguy

Right, well note to self. Rolex forum isn’t the place for further explanations

To me people here just want to not to educate fraudsters how to make a perfect fake one
Take it easy

1675-David · 28 January 2023, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mnguy

Right, well note to self. Rolex forum isn’t the place for further explanations

Hi Mnguy and welcome to the forum! Hope you hang around as this is a great place full of cool and slightly off kilter people. The 2 most asked questions in the vintage section are

1. What is vintage
2. Is this watch (usually followed by some inheritance matrix) and authentic Rolex

Don't be discouraged by the feedback most people who ask question 1 are just making conversation. Where as most people who ask question 2 want to know if they can get away with wearing a fake watch without fear of exposure.

TuRo · 28 January 2023, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mnguy

Right, well note to self. Rolex forum isn’t the place for further explanations

Stick around, we grow on you ! I did give you a heads up (#15 above) on the dial. Btw this fake dial is a weird concatenation of a MK3 and MK4 - you can see that in the link sent to you on DRSD1665's by others earlier in the thread.
http://www.drsd.com/watch-info/doubl...rsd-dials.html
Rgds P

Arnozerosix · 28 January 2023, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eatt_river

To me people here just want to not to educate fraudsters how to make a perfect fake one
Take it easy

You're really serious ?

eatt_river · 28 January 2023, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnozerosix

You're really serious ?

Euh… vous savez…

Dan S · 29 January 2023, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mnguy

Right, well note to self. Rolex forum isn’t the place for further explanations

Another satisfied customer.

24 January 2023, 02:13 AM	#2
springer 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,274	The fake bracelet might be a good place to start when trying to determine if the complete package is genuine. Go to the double-red Sea-Dweller site and do some research on your watch. drsd.com __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

26 January 2023, 07:20 AM	#11
subx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: usa Posts: 533	best thing to do is not educate the fraudsters. Especially since OFTEN they come in here as newbie accounts, just to test their goods for approval, to see if it passes, or to see why it doesn't pass... __________________ 30 years of collecting Submariners.

24 January 2023, 02:36 AM	#3
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: Many Posts: 3,451	Unlikely any local jeweler would know what they’re looking at, and for, in a fake vintage Rolex.

24 January 2023, 07:41 AM	#4
shiftf7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Netherlands Posts: 104	Insert, dial, case, caseback are also fake.

24 January 2023, 07:48 AM	#5
mnguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: New York Posts: 5	What's your reason for saying it's fake? Just curious to know

24 January 2023, 10:54 AM	#7
hutch300 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jeff Location: PNW Posts: 1,462	OP, the watch isn't like oh that is close. Its fake. Very fake. The resource suggested and many legit dealers have photos of real ones. The only value here is possible sentimental to you.

26 January 2023, 12:14 AM	#9
Saki. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Tokyo Posts: 41	Very fake. I was offered a similar watch once in Hong Kong. At that time for 19,000 dollars. At the end of the day, someone bought this watch too. I don't understand why people offer something like this as original. Greetings

26 January 2023, 02:17 PM	#14
hutch300 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jeff Location: PNW Posts: 1,462	Always grandpas watch too... OP we are skeptical because like you are reading, this happens

27 January 2023, 08:25 PM	#15
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,745	Not keen on that Mk4 dial - I’d expect the depth ratings to be slightly bigger and bolder. __________________ As silent as car lights that move across this room As cold as our bodies silhouetted by the moon I would lie awake and wonder, Is it just me or this the way love is supposed to be? THE THE - Kingdom of Rain.

28 January 2023, 05:45 AM	#16
indianmachine "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: USA Posts: 795	where'd ya go mnguy???

28 January 2023, 05:56 AM	#17
mnguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: New York Posts: 5	Uh, all I asked was if the watch I got passed down was real or not lol. Didn’t expect this to escalate to me being a fraudster lol

28 January 2023, 09:17 AM	#18
shiftf7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Netherlands Posts: 104	Yeah, and after your question was answered you want to know how we can tell it’s fake. It’s just common sense, nobody here on this forum is going to educate you.

28 January 2023, 06:32 PM	#19
mnguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: New York Posts: 5	Right, well note to self. Rolex forum isn’t the place for further explanations

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