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Philfromsyd · 22 February 2023, 09:08 PM

Hi,

I bought a TUDOR 9411/0 for a good price in an online auction in Japan. This is my first Tudor so i am not familiar with this watch, can you please let me know if you think some parts are not original?
I understand the movement probably needs quite a bit of work... Also the bezel and lume dot don't seem to be right if you can confirm.

Thanks,

Philippe

dhknola · 23 February 2023, 01:32 AM

Linesiders will know, bezel seems off, but other than not confidant to call one way or another.

1675-David · 23 February 2023, 03:01 AM

This watch has a catalogue of issues. You might want to look into getting your money back.

cht · 23 February 2023, 04:50 AM

Send it in for movement service and get the bezel replaced, enjoy the watch.

VintageVagabound · 23 February 2023, 05:45 AM

Not sure what’s going on here but the serial number looks off and what’s the bracelet number? I can’t quite make it out in the pics but it doesn’t look like any bracelet I’ve ever seen on a 9411/0. It almost looks smaller like a ladies bracelet. Do you have any pics of the other side which should show 9411/0?

alwayshere · 23 February 2023, 06:57 AM

Fake Tudor. Get a refund asap

hutch300 · 23 February 2023, 07:52 AM

Yikes. Refund asap

MILGAUSS88 · 23 February 2023, 07:55 AM

Very fake.
Missing regulator as well.

jatco · 23 February 2023, 08:28 AM

One very bad balance for starters...
I guess you realize by now it's a 'no go'.
Refund required...
Hope you can....

harry in montreal · 23 February 2023, 08:57 AM

Extremely fakee

Singhalager · 26 February 2023, 02:38 PM

A lot of dodgy Tudor Submariner deals happening in Sydney lately

Fellini · 26 February 2023, 04:21 PM

Definitely not swiss-made. But at least they almost got the numbers on the case right, this time. Everything else, not so much. The auctioneers should have noticed a few of the many red flags, I‘d say.

Tritto · 26 February 2023, 08:28 PM

There are a lot of fake Tudor subs on yahoo.jp. I'd not take the risk of buying one from Japan.

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TuRo · 26 February 2023, 08:32 PM

Howler is that, wrong everywhere - my fave is actually the bracelet ref '70710' :-)

HERITAGE82 · 26 February 2023, 10:27 PM

Fugazzi

Greglaw · 27 February 2023, 12:28 AM

Another I paid good money for a watch...and ask after the fact if it is real...and somehow have made our way to this forum AFTER the purchase and did no research before...and here before everyone is the first post.

Yeah. Ok.

Dan S · 27 February 2023, 12:43 AM

Unfortunately if you won this on yahoo Japan using a proxy bidding surface like Buyee or FromJapan you just flushed your money down the toilet. No refunds are available even for counterfeit items. They will not even contact the seller or leave negative feedback for you. Ask me how I know. You need to be careful and do your research in advance.

For some reason there are tons of fake Tudor Subs on YJ.

linesiders · 27 February 2023, 01:07 AM

We need to see these before you pull the trigger. Not trying to be rude. Not much we can do now.

swaini3 · 27 February 2023, 02:32 AM

Now that's a breakdown. nice comparison pic.

davie489 · 27 February 2023, 07:42 AM

I think the OP is trying to get info on how to improve when making fake watches

MILGAUSS88 · 27 February 2023, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davie489

I think the OP is trying to get info on how to improve when making fake watches

Either way, he hasn't responded since his first post, so not too much point in continuing this thread.

Crown & Shield · 27 February 2023, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linesiders

We need to see these before you pull the trigger. Not trying to be rude. Not much we can do now.

awesome info

linesiders · 27 February 2023, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davie489

I think the OP is trying to get info on how to improve when making fake watches

Not starting from a strong spot : )

And those are just the easy things, the baseline used fakers is better.

23 February 2023, 08:28 AM	#9
jatco 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: YVR Watch: 116233/79190 Posts: 49,564	One very bad balance for starters... I guess you realize by now it's a 'no go'. Refund required... Hope you can.... __________________ . ..- ' A Crown for every achievement '

26 February 2023, 08:32 PM	#14
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,729	Howler is that, wrong everywhere - my fave is actually the bracelet ref '70710' :-) __________________ As silent as car lights that move across this room As cold as our bodies silhouetted by the moon I would lie awake and wonder, Is it just me or this the way love is supposed to be? THE THE - Kingdom of Rain.

26 February 2023, 10:27 PM	#15
HERITAGE82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,427	Fugazzi __________________ - Rolex Explorer - 214270 - Tudor Black Bay - 79230B - Tudor Chronograph - 79270P - Breitling Chronomat - 10th Anniv. - Huguenin Freres Speedmaster Prototype

27 February 2023, 12:43 AM	#17
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,133	Unfortunately if you won this on yahoo Japan using a proxy bidding surface like Buyee or FromJapan you just flushed your money down the toilet. No refunds are available even for counterfeit items. They will not even contact the seller or leave negative feedback for you. Ask me how I know. You need to be careful and do your research in advance. For some reason there are tons of fake Tudor Subs on YJ. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

23 February 2023, 01:32 AM	#2
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,169	Linesiders will know, bezel seems off, but other than not confidant to call one way or another.

23 February 2023, 03:01 AM	#3
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,056	This watch has a catalogue of issues. You might want to look into getting your money back.

23 February 2023, 04:50 AM	#4
cht 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: San antonio, TX Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,141	Send it in for movement service and get the bezel replaced, enjoy the watch.

23 February 2023, 05:45 AM	#5
VintageVagabound "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 568	Not sure what’s going on here but the serial number looks off and what’s the bracelet number? I can’t quite make it out in the pics but it doesn’t look like any bracelet I’ve ever seen on a 9411/0. It almost looks smaller like a ladies bracelet. Do you have any pics of the other side which should show 9411/0?

23 February 2023, 06:57 AM	#6
alwayshere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 1,552	Fake Tudor. Get a refund asap

23 February 2023, 07:52 AM	#7
hutch300 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jeff Location: PNW Posts: 1,447	Yikes. Refund asap

23 February 2023, 07:55 AM	#8
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,052	Very fake. Missing regulator as well.

23 February 2023, 08:57 AM	#10
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Extremely fakee

26 February 2023, 02:38 PM	#11
Singhalager Banned Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Singapore Posts: 47	A lot of dodgy Tudor Submariner deals happening in Sydney lately

26 February 2023, 04:21 PM	#12
Fellini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Ian Location: SW10 + Berlin Watch: 1953 Explorer Posts: 119	Definitely not swiss-made. But at least they almost got the numbers on the case right, this time. Everything else, not so much. The auctioneers should have noticed a few of the many red flags, I‘d say.

26 February 2023, 08:28 PM	#13
Tritto "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 129	There are a lot of fake Tudor subs on yahoo.jp. I'd not take the risk of buying one from Japan. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

27 February 2023, 12:28 AM	#16
Greglaw Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 667	Another I paid good money for a watch...and ask after the fact if it is real...and somehow have made our way to this forum AFTER the purchase and did no research before...and here before everyone is the first post. Yeah. Ok.

27 February 2023, 02:32 AM	#19
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,450	Now that's a breakdown. nice comparison pic.

27 February 2023, 07:42 AM	#20
davie489 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: wycombe Posts: 62	I think the OP is trying to get info on how to improve when making fake watches

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