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[Marshall kowope]

hello
i am looking to purchase Ref. 15550SR.OO.1356SR.02 the two tone audemars in Europe
i have absolutely no history with any AD on this side of the world
i have a vacation in november in paris.i already emailed for an appointment
.any tips or suggestions
also what is a realistic wait time?
thank you very much everyone

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

hello
i am looking to purchase Ref. 15550SR.OO.1356SR.02 the two tone audemars in Europe
i have absolutely no history with any AD on this side of the world
i have a vacation in november in paris.i already emailed for an appointment
.any tips or suggestions
also what is a realistic wait time?
thank you very much everyone

The Paris boutique has a reputation of being particularly difficult to crack for non-locals, but maybe you'll get lucky.

[Palex]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

hello
i am looking to purchase Ref. 15550SR.OO.1356SR.02 the two tone audemars in Europe
i have absolutely no history with any AD on this side of the world
i have a vacation in november in paris.i already emailed for an appointment
.any tips or suggestions
also what is a realistic wait time?
thank you very much everyone

I emailed the Paris Boutique, visited it, but was not able to walk in, had to make a phone call first, which I did. Would be called back, but that never happened.

Never heard anything again from them. Also was not treated nice at the door.

For me, never again, very bad experience, as opposed to all other boutiques I visited!

[APWorldTour]

Originally Posted by Palex

I emailed the Paris Boutique, visited it, but was not able to walk in, had to make a phone call first, which I did. Would be called back, but that never happened.

Never heard anything again from them. Also was not treated nice at the door.

For me, never again, very bad experience, as opposed to all other boutiques I visited!

You must not have had the secret password…

[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

The Paris boutique has a reputation of being particularly difficult to crack for non-locals, but maybe you'll get lucky.

Thank you for your reply
What boutique in Europe would you suggest..I don’t mind travelling lol

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

Thank you for your reply
What boutique in Europe would you suggest..I don’t mind travelling lol

Is there any boutique where you could reasonably claim a local connection (work/relatives/vacation home/frequent visits/nationality/spouse's nationality, third cousin once removed lives close-by, ...)? Other than that, I'd try my luck at one of the bigger, AP owned and operated outfits.

[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Is there any boutique where you could reasonably claim a local connection (work/relatives/vacation home/frequent visits/nationality/spouse's nationality, third cousin once removed lives close-by, ...)? Other than that, I'd try my luck at one of the bigger, AP owned and operated outfits.

I live in the Uk london to be precise
Was looking at Europe .to get tax refund off the sticker price

Also no I do not have any of those
Isn’t the boutique at 13 rue in Paris the biggest in France and AP owned?

[Marshall kowope]

Also
How much of a better chance do I have since I am not chasing SS models

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

I live in the Uk london to be precise
Was looking at Europe .to get tax refund off the sticker price

No offense, but LOL at this plan (btw, you are aware that the UK would like to get their cut once you import your tax-refunded purchases, I assume). Go to the London AP house.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Go to the London AP house.

This ^^^^^^^

[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

No offense, but LOL at this plan (btw, you are aware that the UK would like to get their cut once you import your tax-refunded purchases, I assume). Go to the London AP house.

Noo I would be bringing the timepiece in person
Not importing
Thanks for the adv

[dauster]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

I live in the Uk london to be precise
Was looking at Europe .to get tax refund off the sticker price

Also no I do not have any of those
Isn’t the boutique at 13 rue in Paris the biggest in France and AP owned?

yes it is AP owned but also servicing all of france, belgium and luxemburg. plus super wealthy tourists I guess not a exactly easy to compete with

[SMD]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

Noo I would be bringing the timepiece in person
Not importing
Thanks for the adv

Ah the old wear it and its not importation loop hole

[Ascot]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

Noo I would be bringing the timepiece in person
Not importing
Thanks for the adv

Hi Marshall, just be careful when you buy a watch from other European countries and claim tax refund, and bring it into UK. Even if you bring it in person - it is still an import, and its subject to UK duties.
Some European countries have started to share tax refund claimed information with UK Border Force - it happened to an ex-colleague of mine.

I am not sure about France, but authorities in Zurich definitely share high value purchase information with UK Border Force.

[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by SMD

Ah the old wear it and its not importation loop hole

lol works?


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[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by Ascot

Hi Marshall, just be careful when you buy a watch from other European countries and claim tax refund, and bring it into UK. Even if you bring it in person - it is still an import, and its subject to UK duties.
Some European countries have started to share tax refund claimed information with UK Border Force - it happened to an ex-colleague of mine.

I am not sure about France, but authorities in Zurich definitely share high value purchase information with UK Border Force.

Alright thank you
Would take precautions


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[Napaswar]

For me, a local Ad is the best chance to get a piece. Traveled and visited boutiques in Japan, Taiwan, Europe, and Russia and got nothing. Not sure they have priority to allocate to local residents first if Im not wrong.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by Ascot

Hi Marshall, just be careful when you buy a watch from other European countries and claim tax refund, and bring it into UK. Even if you bring it in person - it is still an import, and its subject to UK duties.
Some European countries have started to share tax refund claimed information with UK Border Force - it happened to an ex-colleague of mine.

I am not sure about France, but authorities in Zurich definitely share high value purchase information with UK Border Force.

Global Blue also shares with US Custom/BP.

[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by llngoc

Global Blue also shares with US Custom/BP.

What if I am accustomed by customs BP and I say I gifted it to someone or I got mugged….while another person wears it


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[llngoc]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

What if I am accustomed by customs BP and I say I gifted it to someone or I got mugged….while another person wears it


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I think you still have to pay tax. When was the last time IRS let you pay less tax when your wallet got mugged?

And if the record showed that you have bought the watch and you cannot produce the item at US Custom, you may have a long stay at the office. Last time I came back from Paris, there were a couple who probably did not declare a lot of the items they bought and every piece of items in their suit case were being questioned. The husband kept running back to the desk to fill in more items which were not declared. I cannot imagine how long they would have been there and the fine…

I declared every item and the officer needed to see every single recipe, item and packaging. But since I was honest, I actually paid less custom tax than I would have. I also think that it was too much work for them so they just let me have a flat rate instead of going through to figure out how each item should be taxed. (I did realize there was a trade war surcharge tax for handbags until the officer told me)

[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by llngoc

I think you still have to pay tax. When was the last time IRS let you pay less tax when your wallet got mugged?

And if the record showed that you have bought the watch and you cannot produce the item at US Custom, you may have a long stay at the office. Last time I came back from Paris, there were a couple who probably did not declare a lot of the items they bought and every piece of items in their suit case were being questioned. The husband kept running back to the desk to fill in more items which were not declared. I cannot imagine how long they would have been there and the fine…

I declared every item and the officer needed to see every single recipe, item and packaging. But since I was honest, I actually paid less custom tax than I would have. I also think that it was too much work for them so they just let me have a flat rate instead of going through to figure out how each item should be taxed. (I did realize there was a trade war surcharge tax for handbags until the officer told me)

I have multiple residencies and UK is definitely not my tax residence.besides I’m more of a pro Tax avoidance (if that’s a thing ) than pro Tax person

There should be a loophole lol and if I know there would be a possibility I would be probably accustomed ,I wouldn’t be with the item ( maybe I purchased it and gifted my wife in France🥹🥹)

Either ways I would book appointments for the watch in all three boutiques and in France too

Which ever comes out first
I’m not just interested in waiting three years and not receiving anything (I did wait three years with seddiqi in UAE before I moved)


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[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Marshall kowope

Either ways I would book appointments for the watch in all three boutiques and in France too

They all share the same CRM and will see what you asked for in the other boutiques (if they bother to add you to the system). This is not like Rolex where you can get on the list for the same watch at 10 different ADs independently.

[llngoc]

I was confused. I guess you are not bring it back to the UK. Anyway, my comment was more for US custom and Global Blue. I have no knowledge on how global blue and any other countries link is.

Technically, if you gift the item to someone within the EU, you are not legible for tax refund. I believe it is the law there. The item must leave the EU.

[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

They all share the same CRM and will see what you asked for in the other boutiques (if they bother to add you to the system). This is not like Rolex where you can get on the list for the same watch at 10 different ADs independently.

Ohh I understand
So I just find one
Do you have a suggested one for London
Thank you


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[llngoc]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

They all share the same CRM and will see what you asked for in the other boutiques (if they bother to add you to the system). This is not like Rolex where you can get on the list for the same watch at 10 different ADs independently.

Good to know. This will a fast ticket to get flagged as a flipper.

[Marshall kowope]

Originally Posted by llngoc

I was confused. I guess you are not bring it back to the UK. Anyway, my comment was more for US custom and Global Blue. I have no knowledge on how global blue and any other countries link is.

Technically, if you gift the item to someone within the EU, you are not legible for tax refund. I believe it is the law there. The item must leave the EU.

Yes I understand that your comment was for the US
Technically I wouldn’t be bringing it back to the US
Thank you
Technically I can gift my wife and she travels to another country
Thereby I am eligible for tax refund and the item is leaving the EU


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