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Gandor · 30 July 2023, 01:41 PM

A lot of rumors have been coming out about smaller code 11.59s.

What's interesting to me is that the cal. 4302 is purpose built for a 41mm case and reducing the size would likely mean either removing the date window, having the date off-center, reducing the inner bezel size, or using a new calibre movement either in-house or from a third party. I feel like AP is moving away from third party movements and transitioning their catalog to fully in house, so it will be interesting to see what gets put into this case.

I think a fume dial in 39mm time only, no date, with the new indexes of the steel codes would be absolute perfection. A little extra thinness would also be amazing.

The only thing I really DO NOT want is the smaller codes to be gem extravaganzas.

What do you guys think we'll see in a smaller code if it comes?

VogelPhoenix · 30 July 2023, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandor

A lot of rumors have been coming out about smaller code 11.59s.

What's interesting to me is that the cal. 4302 is purpose built for a 41mm case and reducing the size would likely mean either removing the date window, having the date off-center, reducing the inner bezel size, or using a new calibre movement either in-house or from a third party. I feel like AP is moving away from third party movements and transitioning their catalog to fully in house, so it will be interesting to see what gets put into this case.

I was told that, as one might expect, the smaller Codes will have the Vaucher movements from the 37mm RO. They are aimed at female customers and will be "really pretty", or so my wife has been told.

PP&AP · 31 July 2023, 01:46 AM

Also heard the 38m will be ladies focused, at least initially.

Audevache · 31 July 2023, 02:08 AM

Didn't they say when the 41mm code was launched it was supposed to be unisex? I haven't seen a lot of women wearing any I must admit.

Anyways, curious to see what these will look like.

dchang81 · 31 July 2023, 05:49 AM

38mm aventurine or some stone dial variation would sound awesome

In-N-Out · 31 July 2023, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Audevache

Didn't they say when the 41mm code was launched it was supposed to be unisex? I haven't seen a lot of women wearing any I must admit.

Anyways, curious to see what these will look like.

Dominique Crenn wears the code 11 (don’t like either of her Sf restaurants though)

Anyways, I’ve heard from multiple people at multiple boutiques worldwide that the new codes are def geared towards women

thekman · 31 July 2023, 12:53 PM

I don't know what AP has against men who want to wear a sub 40mm watch lol. I like my Code but definitely would love it more at 38-39mm.

l_chissle · 31 July 2023, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thekman

I don't know what AP has against men who want to wear a sub 40mm watch lol. I like my Code but definitely would love it more at 38-39mm.

AP doesn't know what men have against gemmed out <40mm watches

Kiwi-cucumber · 1 August 2023, 01:10 AM

A smaller code would be great, but not sure 38/39 will be something many women can pull off. The 37 offshores are chunky on me, but I think I can make those work. Larger though? Ehhh… and I’m someone who would be excited to get a code in a size that fits me

rapide66 · 1 August 2023, 02:31 AM

I couldn't agree more with the need for AP to address the sizing issue. A smaller size would significantly help expand the demographic of those wearing the Code range.

On a related point, I don't know why AP seems to only offer the 37mm Offshore with diamond bezels... Without the diamonds perhaps it could even have been a unisex type of watch, similar to the 15550 (37mm) & 26715 (38mm) Royal Oak references.

VogelPhoenix · 1 August 2023, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwi-cucumber

A smaller code would be great, but not sure 38/39 will be something many women can pull off. The 37 offshores are chunky on me, but I think I can make those work. Larger though? Ehhh… and I’m someone who would be excited to get a code in a size that fits me

Many of the female Asian AP SA's wear Codes, and my wife thinks the watches look great on them. Also seen many SA's with 37mm ROOs looking good as well.

ButtButt · 1 August 2023, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Many of the female Asian AP SA's wear Codes, and my wife thinks the watches look great on them. Also seen many SA's with 37mm ROOs looking good as well.

My SA just told me a few days ago the last Starwheel they got went to a lady lol.

VogelPhoenix · 1 August 2023, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ButtButt

My SA just told me a few days ago the last Starwheel they got went to a lady lol.

It's my wife's new favorite. Will probably ask for it next.

17noir · 2 August 2023, 12:04 PM

Reduce the size to 39mm and remove the date - that'll get me on board for the code.

Token74 · 5 August 2023, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 17noir

Reduce the size to 39mm and remove the date - that'll get me on board for the code.

Likewise

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Ashj52 · 5 August 2023, 08:58 PM

If the code was a tad bit smaller I would for sure for be interested. Ive tried on a few and really like them.

30 July 2023, 01:41 PM	#1
Gandor "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: USA Posts: 281	Smaller Code Theories? A lot of rumors have been coming out about smaller code 11.59s. What's interesting to me is that the cal. 4302 is purpose built for a 41mm case and reducing the size would likely mean either removing the date window, having the date off-center, reducing the inner bezel size, or using a new calibre movement either in-house or from a third party. I feel like AP is moving away from third party movements and transitioning their catalog to fully in house, so it will be interesting to see what gets put into this case. I think a fume dial in 39mm time only, no date, with the new indexes of the steel codes would be absolute perfection. A little extra thinness would also be amazing. The only thing I really DO NOT want is the smaller codes to be gem extravaganzas. What do you guys think we'll see in a smaller code if it comes?

31 July 2023, 12:53 PM	#7
thekman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Boston Watch: 16610LV Posts: 1,051	I don't know what AP has against men who want to wear a sub 40mm watch lol. I like my Code but definitely would love it more at 38-39mm. __________________ Rolex \| AP \| Cartier \| VC \| Lange Follow me www.instagram.com/subs.n.scrubs

1 August 2023, 02:31 AM	#10
rapide66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: APAC Posts: 90	I couldn't agree more with the need for AP to address the sizing issue. A smaller size would significantly help expand the demographic of those wearing the Code range. On a related point, I don't know why AP seems to only offer the 37mm Offshore with diamond bezels... Without the diamonds perhaps it could even have been a unisex type of watch, similar to the 15550 (37mm) & 26715 (38mm) Royal Oak references. __________________ AP ROC, Rolex SS BLRO, Blancpain 2585F, Cartier Galbee XL, Tudor BB925

5 August 2023, 08:58 PM	#16
Ashj52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 400	If the code was a tad bit smaller I would for sure for be interested. Ive tried on a few and really like them. __________________ Rolex Datejust / Rolex Day-Date Olive / Rolex OP36 Turquoise / AP Royal Oak Grey 15510ST/ Patek 5205-R Olive/ Patek 5167R / Patek 5212a

31 July 2023, 01:46 AM	#3
PP&AP "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: US Watch: 15407 Posts: 90	Also heard the 38m will be ladies focused, at least initially.

31 July 2023, 02:08 AM	#4
Audevache "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2023 Location: Europe Posts: 259	Didn't they say when the 41mm code was launched it was supposed to be unisex? I haven't seen a lot of women wearing any I must admit. Anyways, curious to see what these will look like.

31 July 2023, 05:49 AM	#5
dchang81 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,150	38mm aventurine or some stone dial variation would sound awesome

1 August 2023, 01:10 AM	#9
Kiwi-cucumber "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: USA Watch: 77350ce Posts: 67	A smaller code would be great, but not sure 38/39 will be something many women can pull off. The 37 offshores are chunky on me, but I think I can make those work. Larger though? Ehhh… and I’m someone who would be excited to get a code in a size that fits me

2 August 2023, 12:04 PM	#14
17noir "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: HK Watch: Daytona Posts: 152	Reduce the size to 39mm and remove the date - that'll get me on board for the code.

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