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17 September 2006, 07:59 PM | #1 |
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Watch Manufactures.
1.Mainly own designs and manufactures all major components of every watch in-house.
Rolex. (Shock kif system, escapements hairsprings out sourced and crystals?) Update now use in some models own in-house hairsprings and paraflex shock system and now own the crystal manufacture side. Glashütte Original/Union Glashütte (not sure about the crystals) Harry Winston Fine Timepieces (with collaborators help) Seiko. make everything in-house. Urwerk. (even crystals designed all in-house) 2.Design and manufactures every movement in-house, but uses suppliers for cases, dials,crystals, etc. A. Lange & Sohne. (big date mechanism designed by JLC) Blancpain. Breguet. Citizen. Philippe Dufour. Girard-Perregaux. Jaeger-LeCoultre. F.P. Journe. Richard Mille. Patek Philippe. But even Patek Philippe never made their own movements till the middle 30s.And still use a modded Lemania's Cal. 2310 as a base for some of there two register m/wind chronographs Piaget. Zenith. 3. Designs and manufactures most movements in-house, but also uses supplied movements mostly ETA Based and Lemania. Audemars Piguet. Parmigiani. Roger Dubuis. Vacheron Constantin. uses Lemania's Cal. 2310 as a base ebauche to some of there M/wind cronos 4.Designs and manufactures some movements in-house, but mostly uses supplied ebauches then rework movements. Chopard. Ulysse Nardin. Panerai. 5.Manufactures who use supplied ébauche or base movement, but do extensive and substantial in-house modification to movement, that a unique finished movement, only to that said manufacture results. IWC now state they have designed a new movement. Svend Andersen. D. Dornblüth & Sohne. IWC. Paul Gerber. Nomos. Daniel Roth. 6. Designs and manufactures at least most movements in- house group, but uses other suppliers for cases, dials, etc. Jacquet Droz. Longines. Omega. Tissot. Breitling. 7. Begins with supplied movements, but does additional finishing in-house or in-house-group. Stowa/Jorg Schauer 8.Designs a few movements, receives completed movements, and assembles at least some watches in-house, but most out sourced. Chronoswiss. Tag Heuer. 9.Outsources all aspects of manufacturing. All fashion brands. 10.Poljot. now produce all in-house movements,for chrono range. The Chronograph P3133 is based on the Swiss Valjoux 7734 movement,they bought the old tooling and rights.The Val 7734 was in production from 1969-78 less than 2 million were made.Then the Russian Poljot firm modified the Val 7734 into the P3133 But most movements that Poljot uses are based on popular Swiss movements,plus today in some of there watches,they use full ETA movements like the 2824. The P3133 is based on the Valjoux 7734 movement. The P2612 is based on the AS 1475 (alarm) movement 17-18 Jewel M/W Below are the technical data of the Valjoux 7734, and a comparison with the Poljot 3133 after the modification. Valjoux 7734-------------- Poljot 3133 Winding. Handwind.----------- Handwind. Jewels. 17. ============ 23. A/h. 18000. ---------- 21600. P/R 36 hours-------------- 42 hours.
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17 September 2006, 08:10 PM | #2 |
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Great info Peter, as always I'm a bit disapointed in Patek, I always thought they only used in-house components. You might want to look into Poljot, I believe they make everything themselves too in some watches. I used to own a copy of the anual 'Watches' special issue, this is great for reference because they mention all movement details on all the watches they list!
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17 September 2006, 08:45 PM | #3 |
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It was a very very long time ago Frans,a bit like gruen movements in the Rolex Prince.
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18 September 2006, 02:27 AM | #4 |
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Fantastic information, Peter
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18 September 2006, 04:29 AM | #5 |
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Guys,
The secret source of Padi's info is his little froggie!! That little fellow is a just a beautiful princess in disguise. One kiss on his lips and POW!!
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18 September 2006, 06:10 AM | #6 |
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So that's how the sheep issue began with you, childhood stories taken too seriously
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beautiful information, by the way what about RADO ?
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10 February 2008, 05:21 AM | #8 |
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It is forbidden to mention that name on this forum!!
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great info..thanx
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Thanks Padi for this information.. This puts Rolex in a really High Rank! Can you please give us more info about Rolex Sapphire Crystals.. Are they manufactured by a Rolex owned factory ? I've read in Watch Time Magazine that [ COMADUR ] - Owned by Swatch Group is the largest crystals manufacturer & supplier to most Swiss watches makers including Rolex..
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Wow this is a great information. Thanks Padi56.
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Nice information sharing.
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Where do RAYMOND WEIL fit in the system ?
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19 October 2014, 10:59 PM | #15 |
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Raymond Weil is one of the newer kids on the block in Swiss made watches. While the name has been around since before WW11 Raymond Weil was named after the original guy who founded the company in Geneva.The new Raymond Weil was only formed in 1976,right in Japanese the quartz influx crisis.But today the brand remains one of the last true Swiss independents they make a lot of ladies watches.Today they use exclusively stock or lightly-modified ETA movements in-house.But like many Swiss manufactures may soon I would expect go down the road to use Sellita, Soprod, and perhaps other movements,so they would fit into group 7.
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Frederique Constant?
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Got one free from instwatch.com they have a giveaway or smtg like that
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Is everything in the original post still true over 10 years later or has it been updated accordingly?
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Anyone heard or have TOURBY watch?
From some YouTube account they have the best lume using Tritec, thus I am drawn to it. Except for the ETA 2824 it is said they make most of their own particularly the improved sandwich style/sealed dial. |
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Hi all... I am a little confused by a watch I forgot I have had in the drawer. Took it out today and I can't remember where or when I bought it. I tried posting photos but it won't work. The watch looks exactly like a Franck Muller Conquistador, gold color and he back is steel which says TARADO No. 88 750 (6002 M QZ) MASTER SQUARE. Any ideas what it could be? Thank you.
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GOOD to know! Thanks!
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Thanks for the great info.
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Thanks for sharing!
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Sydney?
any recommendations for good dealer in CBD?
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thanks for this info
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Post more!! Great information
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Need more information like this
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Was looking for this for a long time. Thanks much!
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Great Post. Many thanks
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