Rolex Submariner 168000 Engraving Question

[TuRo]

Looks great , nice one :-)

[swaini3]

Congrats.... Enjoy it

[TimeLord2]

I love a happy ending! Great looking watch, looks brand new! Wear it in good health.

[Kryss]

Wow that’s a nice piece!

[Watchcollectables]

Old Post resurrection ..!
Does anyone know how many dial variants there are for the 168000 ?

[TuRo]

Ok this is controversial, strap yourself in....

There are two distinct types. An early 'Burford' style coronet like a vase of flowers here;

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol..._lBgeTz&pos=34

Then there is a common splayed coronet here:

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol...c_a0Uijo&pos=2

Now the two controversial ones....and the last one is especially controversial, as it questions the short-run touted by many folks see last but one, old thread !!

I believe this traditional coronet version/font below, differs to the one above, so that might makes 3 std dials :

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/---..._9jjMba&pos=73

And then, wait for it, the Matte Pallettoni, a full set here:

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol..._cgwFzp&pos=10

All but my third one are discussed here including another member (chopperboys) 1985/6 matte full set here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=36048

There is also the comex here :https://coron.et/auction-report/auct...x-relationship

One last observation, be careful..... there are 74 for sale on C24 and at least 3 (4%) have fake dials !!

[Nickn]

Lovely watch

[Watchcollectables]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Ok this is controversial, strap yourself in....

There are two distinct types. An early 'Burford' style coronet like a vase of flowers here;

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol..._lBgeTz&pos=34

Then there is a common splayed coronet here:

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol...c_a0Uijo&pos=2

Now the two controversial ones....and the last one is especially controversial, as it questions the short run touted by folks see last but one, old thread !!

I believe this traditional coronet version/font below, differs to the one above, so that might makes 3 std dials :

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/---..._9jjMba&pos=73

And then, wait for it, the Matte Pallettoni, a full set here:

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol..._cgwFzp&pos=10

All but my third one are discussed here including another member (chopperboys) 1985/6 matte full set here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=36048

There is also the comex here :https://coron.et/auction-report/auct...x-relationship

One last observation, be careful..... there are 74 for sale on C24 and at least 3 (4%) have fake dials !!

So its the Burford type dial that intrigues me as to maybe it was a different dial maker Stern maybe ? I have no idea and there is very little info out there !
Thanks

[swish77]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Ok this is controversial, strap yourself in....

There are two distinct types. An early 'Burford' style coronet like a vase of flowers here;

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol..._lBgeTz&pos=34

Then there is a common splayed coronet here:

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol...c_a0Uijo&pos=2

Now the two controversial ones....and the last one is especially controversial, as it questions the short run touted by folks see last but one, old thread !!

I believe this traditional coronet version/font below, differs to the one above, so that might makes 3 std dials :

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/---..._9jjMba&pos=73

And then, wait for it, the Matte Pallettoni, a full set here:

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol..._cgwFzp&pos=10

All but my third one are discussed here including another member (chopperboys) 1985/6 matte full set here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=36048

There is also the comex here :https://coron.et/auction-report/auct...x-relationship

One last observation, be careful..... there are 74 for sale on C24 and at least 3 (4%) have fake dials !!

Interesting stuff. I don't see any here that are the so-called Mark I dial, with the "Z" at the beginning of "Submariner." I assume that's yet a different variation.

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by swish77

Interesting stuff. I don't see any here that are the so-called Mark I dial, with the "Z" at the beginning of "Submariner." I assume that's yet a different variation.

Oh yes thanks Aaron forgot that one. That makes possibly 5 std dials, one here :

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol..._lXXPRJ&pos=23

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by Watchcollectables

So its the Burford type dial that intrigues me as to maybe it was a different dial maker Stern maybe ? I have no idea and there is very little info out there !
Thanks

I suspect, whoever makes the MK1 16750 matte, which has a Burford Style coronet is likely to same manufacturer -see here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=77719

PS for newbies this is what Burford style coronet is in this brilliantly informative link btw - scroll to bottom and 6538 Burford Explorer dial shows the style, also Maunder Watch link on a sold one :

https://www.blackbird-watchmanual.co...38-submariner/

https://www.maunderwatches.co.uk/sho...lsub-ref-5512/

[swish77]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Oh yes thanks Aaron forgot that one. That makes possibly 5 std dials, one here :

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol..._lXXPRJ&pos=23

From what I've seen/read, these so-called "Zorro" dials are the rarest of the bunch, for whatever that's worth.

[TuRo]

Todays specious quiz - I dont have the answer btw - what makes this 168000 worth OVER 4 times the usual amount of £8-10,000 ?
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/sub..._loqZvd&pos=66

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by swish77

From what I've seen/read, these so-called "Zorro" dials are the rarest of the bunch, for whatever that's worth.

Quite probably.... only two of the 74 for sale on C24 are 'Z', But also only two thin vase of flowers shaped coronet too btw.

[Watchcollectables]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Todays specious quiz - I dont have the answer btw - what makes this 168000 worth OVER 4 times the usual amount of £8-10,000 ?
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/sub..._loqZvd&pos=66

probably a way of dealing direct with customer....

[Watchcollectables]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Quite probably.... only two of the 74 for sale on C24 are 'Z', But also only two thin vase of flowers shaped coronet too btw.

There is one of the ` Vase ` dials currently for sale on Ebay but the dial back is clean , no makers mark on it .