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The procedure of aligning to rehaut
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I just got a new Sub from the AD and it has 2 visible "imperfections": 1. The dial isn't aligned to the rehaut. 2. The ceramic bezel insert isn't aligned to the rehaut when the bezel is clicked to the 12 O'clock position. rehaut.PNG Leaving aside the discussion whether I should or shouldn't be bothered by this... My questions is from a technical POV : 1. What would be the procedure for realigning the dial ? What sections of the case/movement will have to be disassembled (movement/hands/etc...) 2. Same question about the bezel insert. |
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The rehaut is part of the case, so the dial needs to be unscrewed and moved to achieve what you want. It is trial and error because the simple act of tightening the screws moves everything slightly.
The insert is just as difficult/easy. The insert needs to come out (tools and know-how needed) and re-seated a few nano-mm in the direction you want. Since there is no actual relationship except aesthetics to these parts.... yada, yada. ![]()
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Will the movement need to be taken apart ? |
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The movement needs to be removed in order to adjust the dial as Larry said. But it doesn't need to be disassembled. I definitely do NOT recommend sending it in for this minor thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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The dial is fixed to the movement with dial feet that are welded to the bottom of the dial. They fit in holes in the movement. For that reason the dial position cannot be adjusted on the movement.
I would simply loosen the clamps that hold the movement to the case, and nudge the movement a fraction if possible, without stressing the stem. No need to remove anything except the case back. |
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This is a new model submariner gentlemen, it houses a 32×× movement and therefore does not have dial feet.
It is clamped on the movement, and has cutouts on the side for centering nodges, the play on this is so minimal that I do not think it can fix OP's issue. Your best bet is unscrewing the case screws from the movement, slightly turning the whole movement inside the case in the desired direction and then holding it there and secure the screws again. You'll only want to do a very slight adjustment since it will put sideways pressure on your stem, but it is the only 'fix' for your misalignment issue. |
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Of all of the issues that bother me the most it is a misalignment issues. Once I see it, I can not unsee it and visually I want it to be right. I would send it in to Rolex to be corrected. Start with the AD and see what they say.
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The procedure of aligning to rehaut
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Thanks for that info Bas. So removing the movement, reducing the dial clamping pressure, then "nudging" in the correct direction and tightening clamping isn't a good idea? No matter what method is used, it will only be a workaround until the next service returns the dial to its current position. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Thanks
It's a fiddly business once the laser has its way with the rehaut/flange. A tiny 1/2 of 1° can set off the OCD owners then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Wouldn't bother me, not worth the hassle and who would notice it anyway ?
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There is no literature that suggests that the crown on the rehaut should align with 12 on the dial. The position of the crown on the rehaut is dictated by the format of the engraved serial number and there's very little you can do about it.
Re-aligning the insert is an easy fix, take to RSC and have them sort it out. |
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Absolutely terrible. The best solution is 200mg of valium every day washed away with some glasses of 25 year old single malt. I would be de devastated if it was my watch.
Come on my friends, this is such a minor, minor misalignment, there are bigger things going on in thw world to worry about. |
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I have to say I'm very surprised by how badly that is misaligned.
The small etched crown should pretty much be exactly lined up to the top triangle on the dial. I don't believe there would be any way to correct this unfortunately. I'd say it's a manufacturing issue with that particular case. |
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You shouldn’t be worried about this.
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The position of the crown is not dictated by the format of the serial number. The R O L E X R O L E X letters are spaced to correspond with the minute markers on the dial. The crown on the rehaut is etched at 12.00 relative to the case. All of that is clearly by design. Its not the engraving thats misaligned unless by a fault in the manufacturing process. Its otherwise always the dial thats misaligned as been explained ![]()
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