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#1 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 10
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I think I just got scammed?
I purchased a watch from a TRF member. I responded to the classified posted by Tenementhall, for a Batgirl. I wired the money and he said he shipped the watch. He used USPS overnight priority. I expressed my concern about using that method but he assured me that he had used it before and it would be fine.
I checked the tracking he provided and the USPS website said a label had been created but not entered into the system. Told him I was upset and he said that it would just show up. So I have now contacted USPS and they confirmed it was not entered into the USPS system and they did not have the package. I asked for the shipping receipt and he said he trashed it that it wasn’t necessary and the watch would show up this coming Monday. The ad is still up and not indicted sold. Yes I checked his TRF references. He will not respond to my email's and said he didn’t like my attitude. I would love to have to apologize after receiving the watch. Appreciate any feedback. |
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TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Tim
Location: Pennsylvania
Watch: 14060M
Posts: 71,913
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This is possibly a compromised account. Contact your banking institution and attempt to have your payment reversed.
The account in question has been closed here.
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#3 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 10
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Thank you for taking action. appreciate the advice and have already contacted the bank and law enforcement.
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2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: USA
Watch: YM42 Ti
Posts: 2,617
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Fingers crossed he is just an A-hole and not a scammer. Can you post a link to the ad in question?
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#5 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: East coast
Posts: 6,645
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Scammed for sure……that sucks
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"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: East coast
Posts: 6,645
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Scammed for sure……that sucks
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 6,631
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Quote:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=910014 If he's a scammer, shouldn't he be banned?
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Banned
Join Date: Aug 2021
Real Name: Michael
Location: Europe
Watch: UN,RolexTudor&more
Posts: 2,742
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Scam in my opinion
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TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Tim
Location: Pennsylvania
Watch: 14060M
Posts: 71,913
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#10 |
TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Tim
Location: Pennsylvania
Watch: 14060M
Posts: 71,913
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In Pa our state AG’s office has a department dedicated to just these types of crimes, not sure if your state has this but wouldn’t hurt to reach out to them.
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 6,631
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Got it. Thank you cop414.
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Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: London
Posts: 4
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I posted on your other thread, sorry to hear you were scammed.
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#13 |
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Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 10
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I wish I would have been smart enough to detect the email change, didn't even think to ask. I have notified every possible entity that could help me. let me just say that any chance for recovery is extremely remote.
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2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 41,441
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Was your bank unable to reverse the wire?
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Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Quakertown PA
Posts: 1
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I had a similar situation happen a couple years ago on another watch forum. A long time seller had his account hacked and a scammer listed a watch under his user name. He provided a tracking number as well but the watch never arrived and he did not provide any other information as proof of shipment. Eventually he stopped comunicating with me.
So i contacted my bank to get the wire reversed, but that generally isn't possible with wire transfers as I/you willingly sent the money. Then I contacted the police and file a report of theft/fraud with them, unfortunately there isn't much they can do. After 2 years my bank refunded my money as the wire was considered fraudulent. Hopefully your story has a happy ending. |
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2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: United States
Watch: Rolex and Patek
Posts: 10,984
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Why would anyone throw the shipping receipt away before the package arrives?
You knew at that moment. |
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2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 6,631
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OP, any update?
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Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 10
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My bank has not recovered any of my money. I have spent many hours filling out law enforcement forms with no feedback. Other agencies have not even responded to my messages. I think this type of crime is going to get worse. I thought I was smart to avoid the scammer mentioned in another thread in this section. Sorry to the non established casual sellers, I would never buy again. Stick with the high level gray’s.
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"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: 94928
Posts: 23
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Hey man I feel you. I was in contact with him for the batgirl as well. I just got scammed my “Mike I”. He goes several postings.
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2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: California
Watch: Rolex 16710
Posts: 215
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In case you haven't done it, contact the receiving bank and tell them what happened. I believe they are obligated to check into it.
As a rule, I will zoom or facetime with the seller to see the person and the watch. So far, thankfully, I've had good luck with TRF sellers. |
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#21 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 10
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My banks (chase) won’t give me any information on the receiving bank. They are handling the investigation and will let me know in 6 to 8 weeks. I also gave the wire transfer information to the FBI and the Postal Service criminal division.
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"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 90
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I have a hot take, but take it for what it's worth: I would just go directly to the AD and skip all gray market dealers. If you are spending a ton of money, just get it directly from the source and be secure with the fact that it is real and you are the first owner. |
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2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Merica
Posts: 1,315
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Wow this is heartbreaking to hear. That's a tough chunk of change to lose.
Yea buying a decent priced watch from a random seller is risky, you have taught many a lesson. Sorry it happened |
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Real Name: Tom
Location: New York
Posts: 190
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Itinerant
Watch: 79010sg
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2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Philly/NYC
Posts: 49
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Sorry to hear, but yes buyers need to be aware. Always ask for a reference, FT, and/or ZOOM to verify. Sorry for your luck, its a few thousand dollar lesson.
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"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Real Name: Brian
Location: East Coast
Watch: 124270
Posts: 978
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Quote:
The key to this is to act fast to report the fraud and you have to have an aggressive law enforcement agency that is willing to take these steps but it is possible.
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2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Real Name: Omar
Location: in a treehouse
Watch: big fat invicta
Posts: 1,150
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#29 |
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Real Name: Omar
Location: in a treehouse
Watch: big fat invicta
Posts: 1,150
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So sorry about your misfortune, I know your pain
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#30 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: southern cali
Posts: 3
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It hard to buy a expense item on line.
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