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Old 2 July 2024, 10:51 AM   #61
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Most, if not all, are allocated Openworked after the complications level. So far that's the sequence for all my friends who owned the 15407. QP being the entry among complications for AP.
This makes sense to me...although after I reach that level and purchase a QP....I will likely have a long pause on my "journey."

I would love to see a time and date only 41 with a rose gold/salmon dial.
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Old 2 July 2024, 11:11 AM   #62
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Most, if not all, are allocated Openworked after the complications level. So far that's the sequence for all my friends who owned the 15407. QP being the entry among complications for AP.
My boutique knows I'm too poor for a complication, so we jumped to the 15407 directly
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Old 2 July 2024, 12:13 PM   #63
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not feeling these at all.. is there an actual redesign in the works?
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Old 2 July 2024, 12:55 PM   #64
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My boutique knows I'm too poor for a complication, so we jumped to the 15407 directly
Exactly, I thought there was a number of people with OW allocations who didn’t want to get a QP. Instead, I thought it was more based on the number of pieces one has purchased. Rules may be changing, however, I dunno.
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Old 2 July 2024, 01:07 PM   #65
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I did just notice that the black ceramic with the rose gold dial is listed as a "limited edition of 150" on the website.

So I guess most of us won't have to worry about turning that one down. Just in case some of you were anxious.
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Old 2 July 2024, 01:07 PM   #66
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surprised at the reception for the "new" 15407st. looks incredible and I love the contrast. but I personally like two tone look like the Santos, especially on the bezel for the bolts/screws

would give up an arm or leg for this new "steel" model. unfortunately my SA just informed me I'm not even close so I'll keep dreaming.
I’ll admit, my initial reaction was a bit hasty, in part based on the unexpected surprise, and also limited bare pictures. However, looking at the other pictures on Monochrome Watches, the wrist shots with that rose gold dial are starting to win me over. I more curious now to see this steel piece in the metal.
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Old 2 July 2024, 01:54 PM   #67
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My boutique knows I'm too poor for a complication, so we jumped to the 15407 directly
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Exactly, I thought there was a number of people with OW allocations who didn’t want to get a QP. Instead, I thought it was more based on the number of pieces one has purchased. Rules may be changing, however, I dunno.
As mentioned, not all but most have to walk through the complications or Concept phase before being offered one. And guess the SA plays a big part too.
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Old 2 July 2024, 05:40 PM   #68
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No Concept or complications needed here. ROO, code steel 3 hand, code 38mm, RO 37mm and BOOM 15407Or
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Old 2 July 2024, 10:05 PM   #69
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No Concept or complications needed here. ROO, code steel 3 hand, code 38mm, RO 37mm and BOOM 15407Or
And an OR nonetheless, nice!
I’m wondering of the many 15407s I’ve seen here (unless it’s a faulty impression), how many came through an AD where a Concept or complication was required first.
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Old 2 July 2024, 10:56 PM   #70
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No Concept or complications needed here. ROO, code steel 3 hand, code 38mm, RO 37mm and BOOM 15407Or
out of curiosity were any of these pieces for your wife? That seems to help
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Old 2 July 2024, 11:02 PM   #71
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Just got the confirmation from my SA that this is the new movement. It was actually only a new treatment and not a new architecture.
I can't say if I like it or no, I guess I'll have to wait to see how it is in real life condition instead of photoshopped shootings. YG and Ceramic will still not be obtainable for me.

My SA told me that to be eligible for the ceramic skeleton, I have to buy a QP or tourbillon first, HQ won't put their green light if not.
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Old 3 July 2024, 12:21 AM   #72
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Just got the confirmation from my SA that this is the new movement. It was actually only a new treatment and not a new architecture.
I can't say if I like it or no, I guess I'll have to wait to see how it is in real life condition instead of photoshopped shootings. YG and Ceramic will still not be obtainable for me.

My SA told me that to be eligible for the ceramic skeleton, I have to buy a QP or tourbillon first, HQ won't put their green light if not.
I’m not following. It’s the same exact movement in the prior 15407 and these new ones. Did you SA say this was the new double balance, or is there a new iteration coming?
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Old 3 July 2024, 12:25 AM   #73
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Just got the confirmation from my SA that this is the new movement. It was actually only a new treatment and not a new architecture.
I can't say if I like it or no, I guess I'll have to wait to see how it is in real life condition instead of photoshopped shootings. YG and Ceramic will still not be obtainable for me.

My SA told me that to be eligible for the ceramic skeleton, I have to buy a QP or tourbillon first, HQ won't put their green light if not.
Very Interesting. But lets be honest, the 15407 design-aesthetics are perfect, changing the movement simply to claim an upgrade of some sort is risky. It reminds me of the Porsche 993 to 996 "upgrade" disaster

If it ain't broke then just change up the colors and call it a day
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Old 3 July 2024, 01:15 AM   #74
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I’m not following. It’s the same exact movement in the prior 15407 and these new ones. Did you SA say this was the new double balance, or is there a new iteration coming?
Sorry if it was not clear, my SA said : Here are the novelties, what do you think about it? There are no new movements, it's more different colors of skeleton.

If anyone has an other information, please share it, I don't know why she would lie about it but this is what I got when I asked.
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Old 3 July 2024, 01:21 AM   #75
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Sorry if it was not clear, my SA said : Here are the novelties, what do you think about it? There are no new movements, it's more different colors of skeleton.

If anyone has an other information, please share it, I don't know why she would lie about it but this is what I got when I asked.
Got it, thank you! Wonder if there is another double balance on the horizon?
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Old 3 July 2024, 03:03 AM   #76
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Looks better IRL than the website images.
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Old 3 July 2024, 03:40 AM   #77
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They really milked the crap out of the DB. In 2020, we only had like 8 variants across the 41 and 37 sizes.

We must be at like 20+ at this point and really killing a classic with all the variants.


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Old 3 July 2024, 04:45 AM   #78
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Looks better IRL than the website images.
Thanks for sharing that Graham. Love it 🥰
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Old 3 July 2024, 04:51 AM   #79
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Looks better IRL than the website images.
Indeed much better than AP's semi-renders. Still wondering what it would look like with a contrast-colored bridge.
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Looks better IRL than the website images.
that looks really great! still prefer the OG Steel but love the salmon dial
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Old 3 July 2024, 05:22 AM   #81
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They really milked the crap out of the DB. In 2020, we only had like 8 variants across the 41 and 37 sizes.

We must be at like 20+ at this point and really killing a classic with all the variants.
It's a bit confusing - can't easily
tell which of the 20 models on the website are actually (still) available. Does the new 15407ST replace the old one? Not sure there are really more current models than before.
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Old 3 July 2024, 06:38 AM   #82
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I like the new one enough to almost choose it over a QP. The old one...not so much.
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Old 3 July 2024, 06:47 AM   #83
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I like the new steel model over the old steel model. The previous 15407ST never appealed to me. The gray steel and gray internals just seemed overly gray, dull, lifeless, ugly. The new model is a significant improvement in my opinion.

The 15407OR with the gray internals looks unchanged? Looks great to me.

The 15416CE, I prefer the old one. The shine on the black ceramic works well with a dark/grayish movement. I'm a bit biased, I suppose, and maybe the new one will grow on me after some time.
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Old 3 July 2024, 11:02 AM   #84
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I had to really let these new releases sink in for a bit. I'm really starting to like the new SS version. I prefer the old ceramic over the new, though. Going to request the SS version and see how that conversation goes..
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I had to really let these new releases sink in for a bit. I'm really starting to like the new SS version. I prefer the old ceramic over the new, though. Going to request the SS version and see how that conversation goes..
Calmer heads prevail I did indeed have a reaction to the initial pictures and unexpected change. But seeing live pictures has been winning me over. Someone else summarized it perfectly by describing the old gen as more alluring, while the new gen is more gorgeous.
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Ummmm. I like the older 15407 better than the new version. I feel the DB is now lost and added an extra layer of intricately connected color and metal types made the dial pop

NOW the new version blends together and loses the depth of the 15407 that made that dial amazing.
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Are we sure these are the new versions we have been waiting for and not a farewell tour of the current movement? I heard the new openworked might get pushed to next year, so a July release seems odd to me.

Based on the current pics I’ve seen, I prefer all 3 of the old versions to the new lineup. The missing bridge contrast makes a bit difference I think.
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Looks better IRL than the website images.
In this pic, it looks more like yellow gold. Would you say it's more salmon or more yellow?
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In this pic, it looks more like yellow gold. Would you say it's more salmon or more yellow?

I should add I just took that image from an AP instagram fan page, think very few people will have seen one so far Looks more yellow in this image but these other images show it in a different light. The AP website describes it as “pink-gold-toned openworked movement” so should be more salmon/pink in reality.

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They really milked the crap out of the DB. In 2020, we only had like 8 variants across the 41 and 37 sizes.

We must be at like 20+ at this point and really killing a classic with all the variants.


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And we can't even blame FHB anymore...
I'm really worried about the direction AP is taking
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