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9 August 2024, 11:11 AM | #1 |
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No Purchase History, First Boutique Visit
What is realistic to ask for in the RO and ROO lines that I will actually get offered within a year?
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9 August 2024, 11:20 AM | #2 |
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Most likely nothing for RO. Perhaps a ROO diver or a 43mm.
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9 August 2024, 11:25 AM | #3 |
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Thought as much
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9 August 2024, 11:31 AM | #4 |
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What I have found a good strategy to be is to put down a list of two maybe three except for me I put down a list of 12 that I'm interested in and then I went into my ad with my list and ask them if they could consider me for any of these. And they're in no particular order and however they decide to distribute their allotments I totally understand that's their choice and I would appreciate it if they might keep me in mind. Of course that's after I have convinced them I'm not a flipper I will buy and keep for the rest of my life and then pass on to my progeny. For me if I buy a watch that I Tire of I consider myself fortunate that I now have this watch in my collection and I go to a different one in my collection or perhaps I seek a new one to purchase. But one thing for me that I will not do is sell a watch I am a collector!
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9 August 2024, 11:34 AM | #5 |
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anything is possible imo. prices continue to decline so I think it's worth asking for a RO as your first watch. next year is 150th anniversary so it might increase demand slightly, but I don't think it's enough to offset the global decline...so on the balance, this is "good" news for watch enthusiasts who want an RO. obviously bad for those who want to "invest" in a watch and hoping to make huge gains flipping or even holding a few years.
in terms of which RO, I assume you are not a woman so I won't mention the 34 or some of the more feminine 37 options with diamonds. but I think any non-blue/green dials in 37 or 41 is possible as a first watch. 41 ROC might be possible too, and maybe even 38 unless they discontinue that next year and replace with in-house movements next year. as for ROO, I think pretty much all the models except certain "hot" pieces are obtainable (LE, ceramic beast, collabs) might be hard to get, but Divers, 43 chronos, and perhaps even the beast should be possible. since you're in the bay, if you haven't made contact yet with any of the socal locations, I highly recommend the House since one of their main KPIs is attracting new clients..it's also a beautiful space to check out and well worth a trip from bay. I would also like to say that it's ridiculous that there are 3 boutiques in socal and 2 in Vegas when there are 0 in Bay Area lol. valley fair or Stanford mall would be perfect for a boutique |
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Don’t waste your time. Per Natalie, the manager at the NYC flagship North America boutique, new clients will not be offered anything with a blue dial or green dial, they will not be offered anything in ceramic or open works, they will not be offered an ultra thin, and AP considers itself a steel company (implication being you can forget about anything in precious metals.). About the only RO she indicated MIGHT be a possibility would be a gray dial 41 mm. Additionally, purchasing a Code IS NOT a guarantee you’ll ever be offered what you want. Why spend $50k on a Code that sells for $30k secondary market if you may never be offered what you want. Go secondary market and get what you want, when you want without the sleazy and gross games.
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9 August 2024, 12:01 PM | #7 |
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Was thinking about requesting the diver with a green or blue dial, or the new rubber bezel time only
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9 August 2024, 12:10 PM | #8 | |
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Sorry, but I find this comical...you're pissed because they won't offer you an openwork, ceramic, ultra thin, or blue/green dial RO as your first piece?
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I waited for the blue ROC for 7 years and got it last October. Pure bliss when I received the watch.
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I think most from the ROO line will be very doable within the first year, possibly within 6 months even. I don't think an RO is completely out of the question if you really hit it off with your SA. I wouldn't we discouraged by what you read. I've seen collectors get an RO as their first piece plenty of times. If you are looking to collect multiple AP's over time including really difficult pieces, starting a relationship is worth while. If you are just looking to get that one RO, then going grey will be your best bet. Wishing you the best of luck and hope to see an incoming thread sooner than later!
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For OP, I would go in and have a list of ROOs that I like and maybe one or the other RO/ROC as a stretch goal.
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9 August 2024, 05:24 PM | #13 |
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No one can say for definite, but make an appointment, go in, introduce yourself, let them know what you’d realistically like and keep in touch. A ROO won’t be an issue and I’d be positive about a RO being possible within a year.
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Thank you all for the amazing feedback and context. I'm going to take a shot at the new blue rubber bezel ROO. I genuinely love everything about it! Would also be happy with a green or blue dial ROO diver. I intend to buy multiple pieces over time and am not planning on ever selling anything, so these seem like good watches to start with. Love how distinct they are. They will definitely add something new and different to my overall collection.
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Sounds like you are on a right track. Don't know if you plan on driving or flying. Both south coast and the house is amazing. LA House have their own private gated parking btw.
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Is the taupe chronograph a realistic ask for a first piece?
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Why would they offer anything in ceramic or open works to a customer they don’t know? That wouldn’t make a lot of sense. AP considering themselves a SS company also very strange. I doubt you’re going to see anyone at AP write their company focus is mainly SS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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11 August 2024, 10:42 PM | #21 |
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Even in the RO collection, less then 30% of the models are steel. So,
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No sense in disputing it... Next time I'll just make up statements as well without any attributable sources. #AlternativeFacts |
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Depends on the boutique, but my buddy just got blue 15510 as his first AP. Wait about a year. Was offered grey dial earlier but waited for blue. I got a 15500 black as my first in 2021. This is in an EU boutique and they are very good working with the locals it seems.
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how about
how about a RO perpetual as a first piece?
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Recently I’ve seen new female customers getting 37mm ROs as their first purchases at my local boutique. I had my name down on the same watch for 3 years with no updates.
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14 September 2024, 01:05 AM | #28 |
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Be honest and just ask for something you like. Although I would recommend not asking for the super rare ones like a Jumbo or an openworked.
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No offence but I fail to understand these kind of statements in relation to a brand like AP.
The secondary market movements are pretty much irrelevant to new AP watches, their demand and how the SA’s are able to allocate them. AP could easily sell every watch they make 2,3 or 4 times over and unless the whole market crashed utterly so every watch was “worth” less than list not a lot is going to change with what’s realistic to be allocated as a new customer to the brand. |
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