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Old 15 August 2024, 01:28 AM   #1
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Case & caseback engravings check

Hi, just wondered if I could have a second pair of eyes on these engravings!
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Old 15 August 2024, 04:19 AM   #2
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Old 15 August 2024, 04:48 AM   #3
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Old 15 August 2024, 06:13 AM   #4
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Looks good to go to me. If it was fake, those case back engravings would probably be perfectly lined up and perfectly straight.
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Old 15 August 2024, 06:17 AM   #5
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Old 15 August 2024, 06:39 AM   #6
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Old 15 August 2024, 07:09 AM   #7
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Old 15 August 2024, 09:53 PM   #8
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Xx inside caseback if I remember means service declined. I’m not a fan of these engravings why don’t you compare with other 2.9 million serial 5513 watches?
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Old 15 August 2024, 10:44 PM   #9
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Old 16 August 2024, 08:18 PM   #10
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Engravings are fine - sloppy type face C

Here are some comps
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Old 17 August 2024, 01:31 AM   #11
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Look fine to me too...
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Old 17 August 2024, 01:40 AM   #12
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Xx inside caseback if I remember means service declined. I’m not a fan of these engravings why don’t you compare with other 2.9 million serial 5513 watches?
Actually, that's XXX, two XX is service estimate declined by customer.

Some other discussion from others....scroll to bottom for some laughs (credit :Haywood Milton)

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21st September 2017 12:02
The various Rolex service codes including XXX are in fact well known.

They are indeed applied by Rolex service centres, simply scratched into the case back with normal service numbers.

XX - watch service / estimate declined by customer
Xxx - watch declined by Rolex ... Not to be worked on by any official Rolex service centre.

However, it is my experience that the service centres themselves sometimes confuse one, two or three Xs !

By chance I am just processing a 2007 lady's Datejust with a double X marking, where the former owner could not stomach the service estimate (hence XX) and sold to me instead.

I am not convinced that a triple X wipes out value. One might wish to satisfy oneself why Rolex wouldn't service it, but the appraisal of the independent components of a vintage Rolex should be undertaken anyway.

Here are some service codes internal to Rolex which you may like, collated from different sources :

L Large Job (Complete Service)
S Small Job (Minor, Quick Repairs)
B Bracelet repairs (No Work on Watch)
Q Quick Service Small Job
QB Quick Service Bracelet Repair
QC Quick Service Comeback
QW Quick Service under Warranty
QI Quick Service International Warranty
LC Large Comeback (Extensive Repairs under Service Warranty)
SC Small Comeback (Minor Repairs under Service Warranty)
LW Large Warranty (Extensive repairs under New Goods warranty)
SW Small Warranty (Minor repairs under new Goods Warranty)
LI Large International Warranty
SI Small International Warranty
NJ No Job (Return unrepaired, no service performed)
CNJ Counterfeit No Jobs
IMTO Counterfeit returned or destroyed
QNJ Quick Service No Jobs
VNJ Vintage Watch no Jobs
Sub Categories
1 Technical Error
2 Defectice Part
3 Accidental Damage
4 Over One Year old ( Service Warranty or New Goods Warranty)
XPST Watch has no papers, stickers or tags, so must be fake *
TZUKM Watch belongs to a tz-uk forum member, ensure dust left on dial *
PAS Exclusive DD40 code / owner has special relationship with AD. Code Red *
WFER Watch has been sold by Watchfinder. Client may expect to pay 15% more than anyone else *
LEOP Leopard print Daytona. Russian moll or Rod Stewart. Beware asking one to pay anything / the moll would be ok *
LVX Green bezel replacement premium. €300 surcharge to be directed into Xmas party fund *
CELL Non-Oyster dress watch. Additional case polishing to reduce tweed snaggery *
ERRR - A buddies watch.
By way of example : 08/17 LON 47/155842XX would be a service mark for Rolex UK where the watch has been received by them in August 2017 and allocated job number 4700155842, but the estimate was declined by the client and the watch returned with work not done.
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Old 17 August 2024, 02:02 AM   #13
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Triple X "XXX" is not all derogatory. I purchased a watch that had a triple x that was mailed by the owner's jewelry shop to have the clasp of the bracelet replaced and the RSC declined. They said it needed to be mailed by the owner. The owner mailed it and had the clasp replaced with no issues.
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