Oyster bracelet clasp not latching properly on Sub

[1st amg]

Hey folks, anyone ever had this issue? I went to put on my 116619 which I have had for about 10 years and the clasp will not latch. Its as if the two hinged parts with the Rolex stamp do not sit inside each other. They are not flush inside the clasp which sticks out and pushes against my wrist. I am not sure how this happened. Any ideas on what to look at? I know most of you will say bring it to a RSC, but I feel this may be aa quick little fix that I may be able to do myself.

[Jets_fan44]

Pics?

[Old Expat Beast]

Have you got a hammer and some duct tape?

[racerx]

Did you take it in the ocean or pool?

[1st amg]

Here are some pics. No abuse or water sports as I remember.


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[brandrea]

Are you saying the “beak and hook” don’t engage?

I’m not sure what to suggest … maybe play around with moving the glidelock back and forth?

Hope you get this sorted …

[cdmorenot]

One of the two folding pieces under the clasp may have gotten bent out of shape. Easy to bend them back into shape with the 5 digits but not sure about this one! Sorry man. Hope you get this sorted out.

[slide13]

I would say open it up and check piece by piece to see what is sticking or not seating properly.

When open, will the skinny blade part of the clasp blade, that is attached to the clasp itself, sit flush against the clasp and bracelet? If not, you should be able to see what is stopping it.

If it does, then what happens if you keep that in place against the clasp/bracelet/glidelock and try to close it into the larger blade that is attached to the flip lock?

Seems like you should be able to figure out which part is causing it to not seat properly and go from there.

[sheldonsmith]

1. Check bracelet screws; none should be protruding

2. Check that the spring that is under the clasp closure mechanism engages.

3. Check that both springbars that hold the latch mechanism and the bracelet to the clasp cover (respectively) are seated. See image below.

4. Does the Oysterlock adjustment slide freely?

Other than that, have a watch maker disassemble the clasp and find the culprit.





More schematics that might help describe the issue are posted here: https://www.minus4plus6.com/glidelock.php

~ Sheldon

[subtona]

My best guess Either a screw is loose, or a spring has popped or possibly a link is backwards?

I think the clasp would break before it bends.

[mdozier]

Originally Posted by slide13

I would say open it up and check piece by piece to see what is sticking or not seating properly.

When open, will the skinny blade part of the clasp blade, that is attached to the clasp itself, sit flush against the clasp and bracelet? If not, you should be able to see what is stopping it.

If it does, then what happens if you keep that in place against the clasp/bracelet/glidelock and try to close it into the larger blade that is attached to the flip lock?

Seems like you should be able to figure out which part is causing it to not seat properly and go from there.

^This.
To elaborate and I apologize in advance if this is too obvious, but, did you by chance double check the glide-lock/flip-lock? My Sea-dweller does the exact same thing if the flip-lock links are not fully set, snapped in and recessed.

Again, sorry if this is overstating the obvious.

[1st amg]

Originally Posted by mdozier

^This.
To elaborate and I apologize in advance if this is too obvious, but, did you by chance double check the glide-lock/flip-lock? My Sea-dweller does the exact same thing if the flip-lock links are not fully set, snapped in and recessed.

Again, sorry if this is overstating the obvious.

No don't apologize. It does seem to be something very simple out of place. I cannot for the life of me figure this out. I will try to go to the local Rolex AD tomorrow morning. Everything seems to move ok, glidelock and the spring loaded latch seems ok as well.

[mdozier]

Hopefully it is quite simple. Best of luck

[Zach69SS]

Op, liquid nail always works for me? Just kidding. Looks like something is bent.
Look at the fold and see if anything is not inline. Check that all the pins secure.
I had an issue once with a bad pin, while on vacation in Europe. I did not mess with it.

It does not have to go to RSC, you should be able to see where it is not straight.
If you feel comfortable adjusting it, try, I would visit your AD most of them have an in house watchmaker that can adjust it for you.

Best of luck,

[subtona]

Is it possible someone tried on your watch and forced the clasp the wrong way?

[Sgooter]

FWIW: Looks like the curvatures (shape) of the clasp folds might not be uniform, and might also not be the same curvature as the clasp cover.

[Sgooter]

Sheldon - thanks much for posting the Guidelock schematics!

[1st amg]

Soooooo, guess what. Up until this morning, it still was not latching properly and I could not see anything wrong. So, I end up going to our Rolex AD and I am showing the service girl how it's not teaching properly and.....the friggin thing latches normally. What the hell... So I showed her the pics and she said sometimes there is dirt and grime that gets stuck where the spring loaded latch is and it won't release properly or line up with the hook properly. She ended up steam-cleaning it and blowing out all the grime.
The girl is enamored with the watch as she has not seen the 116619 in the flesh and is blown away. The girl was blushing about this watch. It made my day,. firstly getting it all sorted out, then secondly her infatuation with the Smurf

[1st amg]

My back in action shot!




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[samson66]

I was going to suggest you might have a screw backing out, which happened to me last month. Sounds like you got things sorted out.

[mdozier]

Good news. Glad it was a simple issue.

[subtona]

good news. great watch!

[brandrea]

Good to hear you got it sorted Nicholas