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Yes, no issues | 1,051 | 69.79% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine | 62 | 4.12% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) | 393 | 26.10% | |
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5 October 2024, 10:25 AM | #5311 | |
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And this appears to be the guide: https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...postcount=5002 Any other posts helpful to read? I am totally new at this. Down the rabbit hole I go. I held off reading too much into timeographer posts as I didn't want to worry myself too much...but it makes sense to evaluate before/after service, especially now that I have the classic 32 series issues. |
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5 October 2024, 01:21 PM | #5312 | |
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I just ordered a Weishi 1900 and will post results. How did you (and others reading this) account for variation when making your excel tables? Eg. First post in this thread: "DU: +2 to +3 s/d, 256-262 deg" How would you record this as a single value for rate and amplitude on your excel table? Just average? +2.5 s/d, 259 deg ? |
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5 October 2024, 06:21 PM | #5313 |
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Take my advice forget about timegrapher just wear and enjoy your watch in good health now that's far more important.
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5 October 2024, 08:22 PM | #5314 |
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[QUOTE=cascadez71;13417989]Would you say that colder temperatures result in a "slower" watch? ie. -spd
If my memory serves me well (I hope it does) there was some discussion a while ago about temperature effects in this thread.
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5 October 2024, 09:12 PM | #5315 | ||
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Slowing timekeeping, sometimes rapidly, is often how the issue presents. Up to you to determine if it’s outside what you might consider an acceptable range. The advice to send to RSC makes the most sense, as they’re best equipped to handle this, and if within warranty it’ll be covered for you at no cost. Many report that their watch comes back fine after servicing, and low amplitude issue is resolved. Others have had to send their watch(es) back multiple times for the same issue, unfortunately. Sadly, as far as I can follow, it’s not entirely understood what is the cause, though there are RSC trained/employed watch technicians (I hope I’m doing their title and capabilities justice) here and elsewhere that have confirmed this issue is real. Quote:
The 126610LV is a really cool dive watch. Good luck getting it back to spec. |
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5 October 2024, 09:15 PM | #5316 | |
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How about Enjoying a watch AND also enjoying measuring with a timegrapher.
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6 October 2024, 01:55 AM | #5318 |
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Exactly. Some people can own a performance car and be happy to just drive it to work and have it maintained by someone else. Others want to tune it, dyno it, get it on the track, tweak every last bit of performance out of it. Or debate different engines and specs over the years. There is certainly room for many types of enthusiasts in any hobby. The sheer length of this thread indicates a significant level of interest in this aspect of Rolex.
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6 October 2024, 03:12 AM | #5319 | |
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He’s had good luck as well with Metas Omegas and Tudor. Getting like +1 sec per week. |
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6 October 2024, 03:33 AM | #5320 |
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Once a person has the data that becomes easily available with using and recording the results from a Timegrapher it becomes such a simple thing to keep a watch running to virtually perfect timekeeping
Simple positioning at night is the corrective position is all that’s needed. It really does not matter what brand of watch this method is used with, be it IWC, Rolex, Tudor or any other make.
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7 October 2024, 01:30 AM | #5322 |
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I am getting my Ohm meter set up immediately.
I will also get my sound meter ready for the noise from an empty barrel.
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7 October 2024, 05:18 AM | #5324 |
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Hello everyone,
Further to the analysis of my data by “Saxo3” and his comments, I have redone a complete 0, 12, 24, 36, 48, 54, 57 and 60 hour test. I wound each watch 40 times and heard what sounded like “internal friction”, clearly indicating that I had indeed wound my watches to the maximum. I also waited 15 minutes (in DU position) before starting the first measurement. Each Timegrapher measurement took 4:05 minutes. 2:00 minutes for stability on the new position and 2:05 minutes of actual measurements (so 4 periods of 60 seconds), then I noted the information after this period by pausing the device. Here are my new results for my two watches. I look forward to the analysis and conclusion of “Saxo3”. Thanks a lot! Last edited by SwissSteph; 7 October 2024 at 05:34 AM.. Reason: swapped a chart for a more readable one |
7 October 2024, 10:20 AM | #5325 |
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@SwissSteph There is not much to analyse as you have already done it
The previously observed variations in amplitudes and rates are gone. They were not intrinsic to the caliber anyway. No change to my conclusions (#5291) and proposal (#5300). You could start to analyse the isochronism and compare your two 32xx watches. It is not difficult: you plot X-Rate vs. X- Amplitude and try a linear fit of your data to determine the slope (m). Look for example at my post #5162 (graph at the bottom). The higher the value of 'm' the better the isochronism, because the rate change is smaller when amplitudes decrease. Obtaining a good linear fit is sometimes a bit tricky. In some cases one has to limit the fit range. |
7 October 2024, 12:58 PM | #5326 |
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Purchased/in-service 3/2021 Weishi 1900, LA: 53deg Initial measurement t+0. I took 4 separate measurements at each position after letting settle 2 mins (settled 15 min prior to first DU measurement). Followed Post #5002. Will post +24, +48 and maybe somewhere between 60-70 depending on schedule. |
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Thank you for your message, your analysis and your conclusions, I am still reassured. I will do in 1-2 months what you proposed in your #5300 (t=0 and t=24) and I will work to arrive at making (with Excel) the same graph that you presented in your message #5162. |
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7 October 2024, 08:46 PM | #5329 |
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“just to make” ... uh, with Excel ... uh, I'm going back to it ... but I'm having a bit of a problem figuring out how to proceed (Excel not being a tool I use every day, even in recent years) ... I'll see if I can combine this information (yes-yes I have) into a chart
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Your data and presentation is very nice. |
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