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Old Yesterday, 03:24 AM   #61
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Yeah they're definitely dropping fast. I see 60k as a very reasonable target within the next year.
That is getting close to what I think FMV should be on this watch. I remember well when they were 20K retail and could be had easily at a discount.
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Old Yesterday, 03:28 AM   #62
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Do you see the old 5711/1A dropping to $60k, but not taking other steel Nautilus models down with it?
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Old Yesterday, 04:39 AM   #63
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This is the problem. Someone who has yet to buy a 5711 might actually be interested, and not need to be put off by this kind of comment.
Watches are not investments. Best advice a potential buyer could ever get.
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Old Yesterday, 04:57 AM   #64
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Many collectors consider their watches a store of value, if not an asset, so going beyond the typical “buy what you like” and “watches are not investments” cliches is fully justified.
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this is the problem. I could give a crap if the value of my 5711 goes down or not, this is not why i bought the watch. If investment is what you are after, put your money in the market.
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watches are not investments. Best advice a potential buyer could ever get.
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Old Yesterday, 07:40 PM   #67
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+3 … BUT…. One doesn’t want to by a watch which depreciates as fast as a lead balloon falls. If that happens one feels stupid for not buying grey a year after release. Buyer’s remorse is not good for any brand.
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Old Yesterday, 07:47 PM   #68
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i think its inevitable that residuals form part of the equation when one is looking to spend, 50-100K + AND watch prices are so exorbiant these days, even for non hype watches. I know that is a small sum for some and a considerable sum for others, but at least for me, even if my aim isnt to "make money" I cannot afford to buy a 100K watch and see it fall to 50K instantly. So whilst its not an "investment", it needs to hold its value "reasonably".
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Old Yesterday, 08:38 PM   #69
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i think its inevitable that residuals form part of the equation when one is looking to spend, 50-100K + AND watch prices are so exorbiant these days, even for non hype watches. I know that is a small sum for some and a considerable sum for others, but at least for me, even if my aim isnt to "make money" I cannot afford to buy a 100K watch and see it fall to 50K instantly. So whilst its not an "investment", it needs to hold its value "reasonably".
I completely agree with this. And, with a few exceptions, the wealthy people I've met really care about not tossing money away. Residual value matters to most and making money on luxury items becomes a bragging right to many.
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Old Yesterday, 08:41 PM   #70
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I personally love the fact that a watch such as the 5711 (or 5167) draw too much hype and attention....keeps everyone distracted and chasing after a few pieces while the real gems are easy to get for those of us that lust after them...4947-1/a, for me the perfect Patek (AC, SS, 38mm, unique blue dial)
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Watches are not investments. Best advice a potential buyer could ever get.
I disagree with this. Watches are an investment should you choose to use them that way. But they are not a good investment.
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Check out current RRP of 5172g and 5320G then compare with grey market prices on Watcharts.com. - then deduct 10-20% for sellers margin.

Investments? - Not in the normal pecuniary sense. You can see the rare riser - Nautilus and Aquanaut but fashion is a major determinate in their price - subjective not objective value.
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