The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Other (non-Rolex) Watch Topics > Patek Philippe Discussion Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12 November 2024, 01:12 AM   #1
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,098
If Patek were to reissue this 3670 today

the waiting list will be all the way to the moon. Maybe in a different dial colour. Coming to a lucky owner at NY Phillips auction. 37mm.
https://www.phillips.com/detail/pate...pe/NY080424/57
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 209429_001.jpg (81.1 KB, 407 views)
File Type: jpg 209429_003.jpg (70.9 KB, 407 views)
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 01:52 AM   #2
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,486
My absolute favorite.

A friend and I often takes turns kicking each other …
In one of its earlier NY auctions it failed to sell!!!!!
The estimate was ~150k.

But as far as more being made, the dial color is perfect


My only consolation, I tell myself the movement isn’t shock protected so who wants it anyway:)
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 02:38 AM   #3
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,098
Quote:
Originally Posted by subtona View Post
My absolute favorite.

A friend and I often takes turns kicking each other …
In one of its earlier NY auctions it failed to sell!!!!!
The estimate was ~150k.
I thought of you when I created this thread

It should sell above 150k this round
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 04:37 AM   #4
Dr.Stu
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Dr.Stu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: New York City
Posts: 613
When I first heard the name of the new piece being released was "Cubitus", I was hoping it would be something like the 3670. I think that would have broken the Patek universe in exactly the opposite way the actual release did.
__________________
“Own time or time will own you.” —Brian Norgard
Dr.Stu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 05:08 AM   #5
Chiboy
"TRF" Member
 
Chiboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Chicago
Watch: Daytona
Posts: 5,541
I like the way the movement fills the case!
__________________
Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)
Chiboy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 05:12 AM   #6
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,486
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
I thought of you when I created this thread

It should sell above 150k this round
Such a great watch.
Great backstory , legendary movement. And such a unique dial.


Maybe just a little over asking…depends how we count the zero

One of the better pics I have come across on the web.

One detail I have not been able to find is the thickness of this watch.
I expect it is about 10.5-10.7mm based on the movement thickness of 5.95mm but nothing definitive on the web. Somewhat thicker than my 5940 at 8.5mm
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg IMG_3012.jpeg (84.7 KB, 316 views)
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 06:36 AM   #7
Flex368
"TRF" Member
 
Flex368's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Real Name: Felix
Location: GMT +1
Watch: Yes!
Posts: 3,045


Is this the same case as the 5950A?
Flex368 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 07:41 AM   #8
Watchdoyouwant?
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: My office.
Posts: 387
MUCH better than the latest release. I agree.
Watchdoyouwant? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 07:52 AM   #9
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,486
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flex368 View Post


Is this the same case as the 5950A?
Cushion case like 5940 and 5950 but not exactly the same. 5950 is a single pusher and the movement is a bit thinner than the 3670.

one of the early Henry Graves commission piece also used the cushion case. It was a minute repeater and significantly smaller at 24mm

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ha...inute-repeater

Hodinkee photo credit.
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg IMG_5934.jpeg (55.4 KB, 276 views)
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 09:11 AM   #10
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,098
Quote:
Originally Posted by subtona View Post
Such a great watch.
Great backstory , legendary movement. And such a unique dial.

Maybe just a little over asking…depends how we count the zero

One of the better pics I have come across on the web.

One detail I have not been able to find is the thickness of this watch.
I expect it is about 10.5-10.7mm based on the movement thickness of 5.95mm but nothing definitive on the web. Somewhat thicker than my 5940 at 8.5mm
I saw someone listed the case height at 10.15mm in another watch forum. It doesn't look too thick from the pictures given it houses a chronograph movement.

What a watch
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 09:48 AM   #11
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,486
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
I saw someone listed the case height at 10.15mm in another watch forum. It doesn't look too thick from the pictures given it houses a chronograph movement.

What a watch
Agree with you regarding expectations for a manual wind chrono movement

I suspect that measurement may be a best guess?

5950 27-525 movement is 5.25mm for a total watch thickness of 10.15mm
(This info is from pateks press release) https://static.patek.com/pdf/pressre...e_Ref_5950.pdf

3670 13-130 movement is 5.95mm
(this info is generic for the movement from Patek but not necessarily specific to the 3670)
https://www.watchprosite.com/patek-p...71688.5136048/

The 3670 movement is a bit thicker, maybe there is a variation in the case thickness?

Not a deal breaker but thicker than optimal for me


And yes what a watch!
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg IMG_5937.jpeg (66.9 KB, 248 views)
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 01:57 PM   #12
GGGMT
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
GGGMT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Itinerant
Watch: 79010sg
Posts: 8,314
Didn’t they just sell one of these in May? Odd that 2/16 came to market with 7 months?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
GGGMT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 04:48 PM   #13
ChetBaker
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Europe
Posts: 716
Sensational and sensuous.
ChetBaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 05:08 PM   #14
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,098
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiboy View Post
I like the way the movement fills the case!
Some write up from Christie's on the movement:
"The story of reference 3670A’s creation is a fascinating one. It started when, in 1996, 16 carefully stored and unused historic caliber 13’’’130 chronograph movements were discovered on the 5th floor of Patek Philippe’s Rue du Rhone boutique. Originally made in 1948 and regulated back in 1955, Philippe Stern immediately realized that these movements could be used to create a very special new model, so exclusive it could only be offered to his most loyal clients. The movements, with serial numbers in the 869’2** range were fully recommissioned in Patek’s workshops in readiness for their new incarnation. Another unique and interesting aspect of these historic movements is that because the movements were made in the mid-20th century, they bear the Geneva Seal mark that Patek Philippe had stopped using for their usual modern production after it was superseded by the familiar PP seal. In 2011, the completely restored movements were cased in classic stainless steel cushion-shaped cases that successfully evoke Patek Philippe’s iconic chronographs of the early 20th century."

I wish I have something like that in my drawer
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 November 2024, 05:15 PM   #15
INC
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
INC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Budapest, HU
Watch: 17000B, B+W
Posts: 2,329
It is simly a Perfect Philippe
INC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 November 2024, 12:41 AM   #16
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,486
Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGMT View Post
Didn’t they just sell one of these in May? Odd that 2/16 came to market with 7 months?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I believe you are correct.
I recall at least 4 separate auctions since it was released. I have been wondering if it were the same piece being resold.

I wont believe there could be so many collectors out of 16 who would want to sell this piece

1 being sold ok but just 2 would be over the top?
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 10:26 AM   #17
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,486
Digging into the web a bit

The original 130 pieces were snap back and some info indicates they were 11mm thick.

The next use of this movement was in the 1463, those had a thicker screw down caseback and shown as 14mm thick.

Finally the 5070 was the last chrono before the Patek in house movement. However It used the lemania movement. Those have a thickness of 11.6mm including the screw down caseback.

Attached Images
File Type: jpeg IMG_5382.jpeg (67.0 KB, 55 views)
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 11:54 AM   #18
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,098
Nice work Gus
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 12:11 PM   #19
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,486
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
Nice work Gus

A pleasure, Seems like so few opportunities over the past years to discuss watch geek stuff vs investment values.

Thanks for sparking the discussion.
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

Wrist Aficionado

Asset Appeal


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.