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Safetrends · 17 March 2010, 09:51 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner...item4cee41bd11

1000ftSub · 17 March 2010, 09:56 AM

Beautiful wear it in good health..........

Earl Camembert · 17 March 2010, 10:28 AM

The seller gives the usual father's watch doesn't know anything. He gives the date of manufacture 1991 but the serial number would make it 1981; dad must not remember when he bought the watch. He calls it a submariner but it is a GMT.

mcjp6 · 17 March 2010, 11:10 AM

thats interesting.....not a watch thats usually faked....

whcrowder · 17 March 2010, 11:10 AM

I'm gonna reserve judgement - this could be the real thing and just a very very uninformed seller - he's already added an update to his page.

mcjp6 · 17 March 2010, 11:29 AM

the hand stack, bezel insert, font, dial , case look OK to me. I would say the watch is good......

Safetrends · 17 March 2010, 11:29 AM

Are you telling me that thing is real??????????????

mcjp6 · 17 March 2010, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Are you telling me that thing is real??????????????

I could be wrong but IMHO yes real, needing some TLC. look at the other GMT posted here in the thread.

Safetrends · 17 March 2010, 11:43 AM

Well it could be a good project watch for someone.

mcjp6 · 17 March 2010, 11:46 AM

firstly, ignoring the damage, compare the font and spacing on the bezel insert......same, then do the same with the dial and dial font......same, hand stack and hands.....same, then ask yourself what is actually wrong with the watch?

mcjp6 · 17 March 2010, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safetrends

Well it could be a good project watch for someone.

agreed.......

whcrowder · 17 March 2010, 11:48 AM

Someone snagged it!

mcjp6 · 17 March 2010, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whcrowder

Someone snagged it!

there is the quick and the dead......I bet he got a great deal on a Rootbeer GMT.

whcrowder · 17 March 2010, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

there is the quick and the dead......I bet he got a great deal on a Rootbeer GMT.

Agree - Wish it had been me !

springer · 17 March 2010, 01:10 PM

Safe, what is your concern on this GENUINE-LOOKING, old, worn-out and put-up wet GMT?

I see nothing that would send it to the "dark side" from the posted pics.

Earl Camembert · 17 March 2010, 02:12 PM

I asked about her discrepancy in the date of manufacture and if he father didn't know when he bought the watch. She said he can no longer communicate.

This is like a scam that isn't; like the funny bands Rolex had made all over the world by anybody and everybody.

Safetrends · 17 March 2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

Safe, what is your concern on this GENUINE-LOOKING, old, worn-out and put-up wet GMT?

I see nothing that would send it to the "dark side" from the posted pics.

I then stand corrected, the title threw me off.

springer · 17 March 2010, 02:55 PM

This is like a scam that isn't; like the funny bands Rolex had made all over the world by anybody and everybody.

Earl, you lost me here, maybe you can expound on it more.

Earl Camembert · 17 March 2010, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

This is like a scam that isn't; like the funny bands Rolex had made all over the world by anybody and everybody.

Earl, you lost me here, maybe you can expound on it more.

The sale had all the marks of a scam; father's watch I don't know much about it and she called a GMT a Submariner; also the date of manufacture was 10 years off. Of course her jeweler not watchmaker told her the date. When I pointed out the wrong date she told me to not bid if I had doubts. That stinks of scam.

Much like contracted for Rolex bands look fake even though they are Rolex.

blaine mattison · 19 March 2010, 11:27 AM

She is legit but not knowledgeable and is a very pleasant lady.
I believe her story and the watch is GREAT. BTW, her jeweler is
Ben Bridges.

cheers

TimeToGo · 19 March 2010, 09:26 PM

Listing ended w/no bids..

blaine mattison · 2 April 2010, 11:38 AM

back from the shop
crystal, case tube, crown gaskets, vintage bezel, nice 7836
tu-tone oyster band. and A.D. full service

mcjp6 · 2 April 2010, 12:09 PM

Beautiful.......

Earl Camembert · 2 April 2010, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaine mattison

back from the shop
crystal, case tube, crown gaskets, vintage bezel, nice 7836
tu-tone oyster band. and A.D. full service

I believe her story and the watch is GREAT. BTW, her jeweler is
Ben Bridges.

So how old is the watch, 1981 or 1991?

As I said this is the scam that isn't and one never knows. Now if the seller had the work done and had the papers from Rolex she could have cleaned up. I'm now leaving detailed instructions about all of my pens and watches before I too can "no longer speak".

idk01 · 2 April 2010, 09:32 PM

What a beauty, and an awesome classic, always had a soft spot for these

turned out a million $$$$$$$$ what a watch!!!!

17 March 2010, 01:10 PM	#15
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,305	Safe, what is your concern on this GENUINE-LOOKING, old, worn-out and put-up wet GMT? I see nothing that would send it to the "dark side" from the posted pics. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

17 March 2010, 02:55 PM	#18
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,305	*This is like a scam that isn't; like the funny bands Rolex had made all over the world by anybody and everybody.* Earl, you lost me here, maybe you can expound on it more. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

2 April 2010, 09:32 PM	#25
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	What a beauty, and an awesome classic, always had a soft spot for these turned out a million $$$$$$$$ what a watch!!!! __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

17 March 2010, 09:56 AM	#2
1000ftSub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Orlando Posts: 2,471	Beautiful wear it in good health..........

17 March 2010, 10:28 AM	#3
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	The seller gives the usual father's watch doesn't know anything. He gives the date of manufacture 1991 but the serial number would make it 1981; dad must not remember when he bought the watch. He calls it a submariner but it is a GMT.

17 March 2010, 11:10 AM	#4
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	thats interesting.....not a watch thats usually faked....

17 March 2010, 11:29 AM	#6
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	the hand stack, bezel insert, font, dial , case look OK to me. I would say the watch is good......

17 March 2010, 11:29 AM	#7
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	Are you telling me that thing is real??????????????

17 March 2010, 11:43 AM	#9
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	Well it could be a good project watch for someone.

17 March 2010, 11:46 AM	#10
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	firstly, ignoring the damage, compare the font and spacing on the bezel insert......same, then do the same with the dial and dial font......same, hand stack and hands.....same, then ask yourself what is actually wrong with the watch?

17 March 2010, 11:48 AM	#12
whcrowder Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Billy Location: Jackson, MS Watch: Rolex Day-Date Posts: 508	Someone snagged it!

17 March 2010, 02:12 PM	#16
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	I asked about her discrepancy in the date of manufacture and if he father didn't know when he bought the watch. She said he can no longer communicate. This is like a scam that isn't; like the funny bands Rolex had made all over the world by anybody and everybody.

19 March 2010, 11:27 AM	#20
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	She is legit but not knowledgeable and is a very pleasant lady. I believe her story and the watch is GREAT. BTW, her jeweler is Ben Bridges. cheers

19 March 2010, 09:26 PM	#21
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,703	Listing ended w/no bids..

2 April 2010, 12:09 PM	#23
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	Beautiful.......

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